Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VI

[boncer34]

That’s enough

2 firsts and a 2nd for Shiel?

Dunno, seems overs.

 

[bombadeer]

I’ll be a little disappointed if we relent and give up two firsts for only Shiel, even if we win a flag next year. It’s about sustained success, not just flash in the pans one hit wonders

There is a rule about not quoting our own in the delusion pearlers thread right?

 

[Mr_McBoogerBalls]

Personal opinion, whilst I do consider Shiels value to be closer to this years 1st and next years second, I'd pay two firsts to get the deal done; solely for good business and the fact that our list in in a good state; we could probably afford to go without a first round next year given the return we get with Shiel.

 

[bombadeer]

Personal opinion, whilst I do consider Shiels value to be closer to this years 1st and next years second, I'd pay two firsts to get the deal done; solely for good business and the fact that our list in in a good state; we could probably afford to go without a first round next year given the return we get with Shiel.

Absolutely... considering next years 1st will be 18 - later after the priority picks they'll have to hand out to the Blues...

 

[Bombers1234]

Trealor was 22

Shiel will be 26 before round 1 next year

Good point and I understand the valuable nature of first round draft picks. Presumably we wouldn't even be in the running for Shiel if we didn't have our first rounder this year in tact. I still think we need to give up 2 first rounders for Shiel this year however, for a few reasons:

1. Will detract from players wanting to club in the future if they think we're hard to deal with.
2. How flat would the players and supporters feel after letting slip the opportunity one of the games best mids.
3. Backing ourselves that we will still attract free agents next season, without the need for draft picks.

I know that GWS has basically given away Scully and Setterfield for free, but we did also get our reigning best and fairest from last year for a second round pick.

 

[Don Won]

This time last year many would have relented and given up our future first rounder for Stringer - if that had happened, this year we're not in the running for Shiel.
Dodoro is practical, but we're building our future not mortgaging it.

 

[Stopher]

Well, I've got some good news for you because you don't need to be a journalist to post made-up shit on twitter.

You'd probably need twitter though, otherwise you're just a bloke rambling shit to yourself.

 

[84859300]

Personal opinion, whilst I do consider Shiels value to be closer to this years 1st and next years second, I'd pay two firsts to get the deal done; solely for good business and the fact that our list in in a good state; we could probably afford to go without a first round next year given the return we get with Shiel.

With our talent pool growing, we will suffer the challenge of playing players capable of 1st 22 footy in the reserves for extended periods, who will no doubt want to explore their options over the next 1, 2 or 3 years.(read Lloyd from Richmond)

Come that time Adrian's team will become the hunted, rather than being the hunters. Then we will see his worth when the boots on the other foot, for trades, pick and upgrades. This could happen as early as next year as players accustomed to games, have opportunities that dry up.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

You'd probably need twitter though, otherwise you're just a bloke rambling shit to yourself.

Ramble shit to yourself and your a schizophrenic. Ramble shit on twitter and you're an ITK.

 

[quotemokc]

Good point and I understand the valuable nature of first round draft picks. Presumably we wouldn't even be in the running for Shiel if we didn't have our first rounder this year in tact. I still think we need to give up 2 first rounders for Shiel this year however, for a few reasons:

1. Will detract from players wanting to club in the future if they think we're hard to deal with.
2. How flat would the players and supporters feel after letting slip the opportunity one of the games best mids.
3. Backing ourselves that we will still attract free agents next season, without the need for draft picks.

I know that GWS has basically given away Scully and Setterfield for free, but we did also get our reigning best and fairest from last year for a second round pick.

Re #1.

Why would players care if we are "hard to deal with"?

They say I want to go here and then its up to everyone else to facilitate.

 

[faible]

Look how happy the Chad looks about playing in the wees and poos.

 

[Bombers1234]

Re #1.

Why would players care if we are "hard to deal with"?

They say I want to go here and then its up to everyone else to facilitate.

More the fact that they see Dylan Shiel nominate Essendon, then have to go back to GWS, tail between his legs, because we couldn't get the deal done. Happened with Gibbs at Carlton/Adelaide I guess, but still not a great look for the club.

 

[quotemokc]

More the fact that they see Dylan Shiel nominate Essendon, then have to go back to GWS, tail between his legs, because we couldn't get the deal done. Happened with Gibbs at Carlton/Adelaide I guess, but still not a great look for the club.

"not a great look for the club"

It depends on who is being unreasonable, we don't know what is being discussed, the managers probably do.

For all we know it is GWS that has an unreal valuation of Shiel

 

[faible]

"not a great look for the club"

It depends on who is being unreasonable, we don't know what is being discussed, the managers probably do.

For all we know it is GWS that has an unreal valuation of Shiel

For all we know the AFL has told Dodoro and SOS (who are mates) to have a bit of fun making this seem like a big ordeal to give them something to televise, whilst the actual deal was agreed to days ago and it's just haggling over which pick from next year we throw in with this years first. Essendon has the currency to get the trade done, Shiel wants to move, and GWS are willing to let him go - when was the last time a trade like that didn't get done?

 

[MarkG]

Good point and I understand the valuable nature of first round draft picks. Presumably we wouldn't even be in the running for Shiel if we didn't have our first rounder this year in tact. I still think we need to give up 2 first rounders for Shiel this year however, for a few reasons:

1. Will detract from players wanting to club in the future if they think we're hard to deal with.
2. How flat would the players and supporters feel after letting slip the opportunity one of the games best mids.
3. Backing ourselves that we will still attract free agents next season, without the need for draft picks.

I know that GWS has basically given away Scully and Setterfield for free, but we did also get our reigning best and fairest from last year for a second round pick.

If hard to deal with means pay fair value for a player, every club is hard to deal with unless they are stupid.

 

[DapperDon]

Look how happy the Chad looks about playing in the wees and poos.

How it will be portrayed on the Hawks board by 5pm

 

[drew_j]

This time last year many would have relented and given up our future first rounder for Stringer - if that had happened, this year we're not in the running for Shiel.
Dodoro is practical, but we're building our future not mortgaging it.

The bulldogs shot themselves in the foot by making their relationship with stringer untenable (toxic), and public before the trade period even started. Sheil nominated Essendon at the expense $2m. I'm a lurker, so correct me if I'm missing something. But I would take that to mean he's the sort of person that if we started ****ing his previous team on a trade as a reason to reconsider. We may have to pay overs.

 

[Howard Moon]

sexual tension between dal santo and McClure is undeniable

 

[Howard Moon]

How it will be portrayed on the Hawks board by 5pm

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why did he get a tattoo of jake stringers guts on his arm? was he a fan as a child?

should have got is dun dodo

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Would be nice if Dodoro can gives us an update on TR has been very quite so far

 

[MarkJohnson#1]

Can someone please conjure up a Dodoro and McCartney photoshop in line with a Mortal Kombat fatality win in readiness for this afternoon?

Cheers

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Would be nice if Dodoro can gives us an update on TR has been very quite this trade period

Quite so.

 

[fishardansin]

BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!! I think I love you. You have made this thread!

 

[Lord Nicholson]

Don't shoot the messenger podcast sounds like a real grabber

 

[TheFrenchCut]

Would be nice if Dodoro can gives us an update on TR has been very quite so far

I asked him and he just winked and said "Molto bene".

And then I said "Al dente" and he kinda just looked at me before, understandably, leaving.