Trade period / National Draft 2024

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[Noidnadroj]

Jagga is an undersized low damage midfielder. He's an accumulator, good player who's stats sheet will look amazing but he's not the talent to spend pick 1 on.

Those with more knowledge than me can comment, but it’s my understanding FOS is faster than Jagga, more explosive; more skillful, a better mark, bigger and more ferocious at the contest.

Is any of that wrong?


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[tigs2010]

Those with more knowledge than me can comment, but it’s my understanding FOS is faster than Jagga, more explosive; more skillful, a better mark, bigger and more ferocious at the contest.

Is any of that wrong?


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Not sure if he's faster but otherwise yes I agree. Both super agile.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Those with more knowledge than me can comment, but it’s my understanding FOS is faster than Jagga, more explosive; more skillful, a better mark, bigger and more ferocious at the contest.

Is any of that wrong?


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The two complement each other and we should definitely be looking for that accumulator type assuming we end up with a number of picks inside the top 15, whether that be Jagga or Xavier Lindsey I don't care as both are going to be very good players.

As for pick 1 and FOS, Im not as certain he is best player in the draft as I once was and Im not sure he ends up the best player as there is a lot of competition but the difference between him and probably everyone else outside of Lalor is intangibles. A 50/50 must win ball FOS will throw himself at it, he will stick a tackle at an important stage of the game or take a mark in amongst two opposition players. He steps up when needed in a similar way to Cotch and while he might not average the same supercoach scores or poll as many brownlow votes as others to be taken in this draft but when it matters he is more likely to perform and thats something that is hard to put a price on.

 

[strauchy]

It’s not obvious at all as to who we favour at this point.

Why would we invite him to play on our VFL list? We could have picked any player to audition for us.
Even twomey is favouring it

 

[tiger_tough]

Those with more knowledge than me can comment, but it’s my understanding FOS is faster than Jagga, more explosive; more skillful, a better mark, bigger and more ferocious at the contest.

Is any of that wrong?


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Yet Jagga has outperformed him all year....

 

[strauchy]

Jagga is an undersized low damage midfielder. He's an accumulator, good player who's stats sheet will look amazing but he's not the talent to spend pick 1 on.

Couldn’t agree more. Obviously recruiters will know more but in footage I have seen, I see pointless non damaging touches and turnovers. At best, looks a solid role player. You don’t use early picks on that type especially number 1! Number 1 needs a wow factor. The only player that has wow’ed me on footage alone is Draper.
Based on reports, FOS could also be that player with a few pre seasons

 

[Wavvey]

The undersized nonsense has to stop. Every elite mid coming through now other than Tom Green

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Tom Green

Age

23

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

3star

CL

2.8

4star

D

11.5

3star

K

4.3

2star

HB

7.3

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.3

4star

CL

2.8

5star

is around 180-183cm.
Butters, Gulden(176), Serong, Flanders, Daicos and Rowell

Keep up with how the game is changing fossils

 

[Lsta062]

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Missed opportunity.

To capture the full story, they should’ve had Matt Clarke and Luke Meehan standing at the top of the cliff and grinning at us

 

[Lsta062]

The undersized nonsense has to stop. Every elite mid coming through now other than Tom Green is around 180-183cm.
Butters, Gulden(176), Serong, Flanders, Daicos and Rowell

Keep up with how the game is changing fossils

Agreed. The last time I looked for tall mids was when RCD happened.

We don’t need them unless they’re actually like Tom Green or Cripps

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Why would we invite him to play on our VFL list? We could have picked any player to audition for us.
Even twomey is favouring it

Twomey ain’t favouring anything. He just presented a show this week where he said 9 players are in the mix. If anything he is leaning towards Langford.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Missed opportunity.

To capture the full story, they should’ve had Matt Clarke and Luke Meehan standing at the top of the cliff and grinning at us

dimma shouldve been first off the bus, pretty weird omission.

 

[Drunken Wookie]

Agreed. The last time I looked for tall mids was when RCD happened.

We don’t need them unless they’re actually like Tom Green or Cripps

Reckon Smilie will get found out against men tbh. Uses his superior strength against kids to break tackles rather than a combo of strength and burst speed that Green and Cripps have from stoppage. Could add it to his game later on, don't reckon he'd be a total bust but would be a huge risk at 1.

 

[juss]

The undersized nonsense has to stop. Every elite mid coming through now other than Tom Green is around 180-183cm.
Butters, Gulden(176), Serong, Flanders, Daicos and Rowell

Keep up with how the game is changing fossils

They all have superior skill sets or real hurt factor though, Jagga doesn't look that player.

 

[Lsta062]

Reckon Smilie will get found out against men tbh. Uses his superior strength against kids to break tackles rather than a combo of strength and burst speed that Green and Cripps have from stoppage. Could add it to his game later on, don't reckon he'd be a total bust but would be a huge risk at 1.

Yeah exactly. Thats the worry I have too. At pick 1, you want a mid that uses their strength well like Sam Walsh or is hard to catch due to their burst acceleration from contests.

If that’s not how Smilie plays, then I’d rather someone smaller with those attributes. I heard FOS and Jagga Smith have it, and we saw Jagga show some of that in our VFL side.

Look forward to seeing FOS tomorrow.

 

[Morro]

They all have superior skill sets or real hurt factor though, Jagga doesn't look that player.

What he does do though, is make players around him better and lead from the front. He also shown a capacity to be adaptable and is very coachable. He has then stepped up to VFL and performed equal to or better than more seasoned mids in terrible conditions despite his frame.

I am not saying he is no1, but he is getting under sold massively in here.

 

[Barnard]

They all have superior skill sets or real hurt factor though, Jagga doesn't look that player.

I haven’t seen any of his games in full yet but from the most the commentary around Jagga on here it seems as tho he’s going to be one of those players that has no trouble getting 25-30 every week, which of course is handy to have. But if his level of impact on games is projected similar to types like Darcy Parish, Jack Macrae and Matt Crouch just to name a few then I’m not using pick one on him. Mid to later first round pick on these types of players. We want a match winner at pick 1.

 

[richoatthedisco]

What he does do though, is make players around him better and lead from the front. He also shown a capacity to be adaptable and is very coachable. He has then stepped up to VFL and performed equal to or better than more seasoned mids in terrible conditions despite his frame.

I am not saying he is no1, but he is getting under sold massively in here.

Fair points, Morro. Can't speak for others but my only issue with him is I think there are better options at 1. I reckon there's a good chance he gets through to pick 6 and I'd be happy with him there.

 

[tigs2010]

What he does do though, is make players around him better and lead from the front. He also shown a capacity to be adaptable and is very coachable. He has then stepped up to VFL and performed equal to or better than more seasoned mids in terrible conditions despite his frame.

I am not saying he is no1, but he is getting under sold massively in here.

Yeah Jagga and Smillie both get undersold massively. Still prefer others at 1 but Jagga is a top 4 quality player.

 

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Sid Draper being managed for this weekend, despite the SANFL having a bye week last week.

 

[Rocco sifreddi]

Sid Draper being managed for this weekend, despite the SANFL having a bye week last week.

Crows trying to hide him

 

[Lord of the Wings]

Why would we invite him to play on our VFL list? We could have picked any player to audition for us.
Even twomey is favouring it

Watch the Gettable segment - the order he presents them in is the order he thinks they’ll go. Subject to change over the next few weeks of course. He presented Langford first.

 

[Morro]

Fair points, Morro. Can't speak for others but my only issue with him is I think there are better options at 1. I reckon there's a good chance he gets through to pick 6 and I'd be happy with him there.

Yeah there probably is, but this kid couldnt have any more and is getting talked down too much considering he has performed better than all of them this year as a whole.

Yeah Jagga and Smillie both get undersold massively. Still prefer others at 1 but Jagga is a top 4 quality player.

Yeah its like most of us want something that doesnt exist this year

 

[tigs2010]

Yeah there probably is, but this kid couldnt have any more and is getting talked down too much considering he has performed better than all of them this year as a whole.



Yeah its like most of us want something that doesnt exist this year

Yes usually there is a standout and this year the standout has barely played so we probably wont/can't take him. We've been dudded

 

[Morro]

Yes usually there is a standout and this year the standout has barely played so we probably wont/can't take him. We've been dudded

Its very Richmondy haha

 

[strauchy]

Watch the segment on YouTube you can tell his order he presents the kids is the order he thinks they’ll go. Subject to change over the next few weeks though.

I did watch it..and you still haven’t answered the question of why we would be auditioning him. Obviously we are seriously considering him, and that was also backed by Twomey. He said he has to be a leading front runner given we are playing him in our VFL side.
He just likes the look of Langford.

At this stage no one really knows which way we are leaning, it’s all speculation. But we can only base it what Richmond is currently doing and watching games.

Given that pick 1 this year looks a big gamble, I’m more interested in how we acquire multiple first rounders this year and who we select at 8/11/16/21 etc.

Also looking forward to FOS vs Jagga tomorrow.