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Passmore said:
He’s come back looking like he’s squeezed 3 off seasons into 1. He even looks older.
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Yeah amazing...not saying this of Goater but I know a kid who went from 177cm and 65 kg at 16 to 188 and 84 kg at 17. Yeah he was doing a lot of weights, while my kid was doing nothing after surgery,,,,,,we were all a bit gob smacked until his old man said to me, "I can get you something to help your boy's rehab, the science is there it'll just make his nuts work a bit better, recover and get stronger quicker".
 
The acurate one said:
Holy heck and cripes, look at the sickly always injured Charlie al chomo, chompo, chops Comben.

I may have jumped off the Mahony minivan as soon as I saw his welcome to North Melbourne Jack pic and write up. BUt I have always stuck by the man that will lead us to glorious glory
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He looks ****ing ready.

Charlie hitting an AFL season as he has the pre seasons is a massive difference to how we can reasonably expect to tackle the year. I think he changes our setup completely.

In fact I reckon there is a thread brewing: 3 players that will turn our season from bottom 4 to a danger in 2023. For mine Charlie, Logue and Phillips, with Goater a close 4th. Those 4 players have solid AFL best 22 years and we will finally get to enjoy gameday thinking we are in with a chance rather than the slowly building dread from 5 mins into the first quarter.
 

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shintemaster said:
He looks ******* ready.

Charlie hitting an AFL season as he has the pre seasons is a massive difference to how we can reasonably expect to tackle the year. I think he changes our setup completely.

In fact I reckon there is a thread brewing: 3 players that will turn our season from bottom 4 to a danger in 2023. For mine Charlie, Logue and Phillips, with Goater a close 4th. Those 4 players have solid AFL best 22 years and we will finally get to enjoy gameday thinking we are in with a chance rather than the slowly building dread from 5 mins into the first quarter.
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TT that is all,
If he starts preforming in the middle, we’ll be aiming to make finals.
 
shintemaster said:
He looks ******* ready.

Charlie hitting an AFL season as he has the pre seasons is a massive difference to how we can reasonably expect to tackle the year. I think he changes our setup completely.

In fact I reckon there is a thread brewing: 3 players that will turn our season from bottom 4 to a danger in 2023. For mine Charlie, Logue and Phillips, with Goater a close 4th. Those 4 players have solid AFL best 22 years and we will finally get to enjoy gameday thinking we are in with a chance rather than the slowly building dread from 5 mins into the first quarter.
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I have been sitting patience as, chomming at the bit as we say, yes " chomming". It is a word now.

Yeah **** it start the thread, what could possibly go wrong?
 
Sphynx said:
Alright.

Perez and Corr were going about their best impersonation of a cross fit competition at the open door of the gym, between boxing circuits and weights. Flynn is a bit of a monster at his age. I was going to take a picture of Flynn, but with his top off, I felt like I would have been breaching some sort of digital revenge pr0n law.

I didn't see Stevo, Zurhaar, Bonar, Logue, Tucker, Greenwood, Spicer. I presume they were in the gym if there.

LDU, CCJ and Goater were doing a mix between the ground work and additional running.

Tarryn was training exclusively on his own, shadowed at all times by a S&C coach, he wasn't doing the high intensity circuits Flynn and Corr were doing and wasn't doing the running with LDU, Goater, CCJ etc. He then spent the last 15 minutes of training in the interchange bench. I asked one of the fitness coaches, he mentioned "he needs to get his running numbers up before partaking in ground work". I think the cuddle and the foot up the bum that Clarko mentioned was in line for J*F probably applies to Tarryn as well.

Pretty low intensity session with about 25 mins of a full ground drills, then some specialist forward and back 50-60m drills, some focusing on deliberate delivery inside 50 with a full zone in place by the opposition.

I mentioned in my posts, I think the most impressive person on the track regarding my initial expectations driving there to what I saw was probably Blake Drury. I've seen a bit of him at NAB League level, but I like to see them early in pre-season to gauge them against AFL bodies. So he gets the 'Alan Obst extended write up' from the session:

To start with, he's tiny, but that's not a bad thing. He's about a similar size to Boomer, minus the 25 years of weights routines. I mentioned in the posts that I think he's one of those freak natural ball sport athletes. When they split into this weird Gaelic football drill where you could only kick it off the ground and then pick it up with no U-turns allowed, he looked like a natural with the other ball. In all the various multiple ball handballing games, he made it look easy compared to others. He just looks like one of those AB de Villiers types.

In terms of his skill set. In the full ground work he rose up with a nice vertical and took a few semi contested marks against the likes of Simpkin that made me sit up and take notice (the type of aerial work that both Lazarro and Mahoney aren't capable of and this seems definitely underreported pre-draft ). In the contested work he was very one touch and clean when others weren't, reminiscent of Will Phillips etc. Then during some brisk circle work, he was hitting low penetrating darts around 40m with regularity. I was thinking to myself (ok.....), then Ratts whistled a change in direction of the circle and he got it back wheeling around on his left side and hit a 40m dart with a completely natural and fluid ball drop on his left side (Probably 5 players would have been capable of that out there today) and I thought (OK!!!!!!) There was even a bit of noise from a few players and coaches at this.

In the specialist forward work, they were doing a drill where they double back from a lead and receive an over the top kick. I got a good look at his foot speed. He's just quick enough to get some separation, he's got a bit of zip and is a yard quicker than both Mahoney and Lazarro who failed to get any separation in the same drill. Drury closed down Sheezel to get a spoil in, in this same drill when playing as the defender

In the goal kicking drills, he was sending the ball 50-55m with ease for someone 175cm, which says to me again, he's a bit of a "freak" a bit like Boomer was with his timing and ball handling skills.

Remembering this kid also has a 2km time in the low 6:00's.

I'm calling it now, not only will he play senior football in 2022, he will play 100+ senior AFL games. I saw Patch in his first pre-season, whilst he was a tough grafter with a superb footy IQ, Drury has more weapons and skill in his little toe than Patch had and I reckon he reads the game just as well. Patch lacked AFL athletecism, whilst Drury is small, he's just quick enough and definitely well above average overhead for his height.

For the others:

Wardlaw - Trains a bit like he interviews, a bit laconic, but also looks like he hasn't played in 7-8 months and is a bit underdone early days. Shades of when Will Phil came to us after the knee inury and Covid. In terms of the ball work, like Goater last year, his athletic attributes jump straight out at training. He hangs in the air with that monster vertical and can pull down one handed marks and handball recieves that others simply can't get to. He's going to be one of those hot and cold ball users by foot, he trys to hit most targets with real penetration. I suspect one day he looks like Nathan Buckley but on the odd occasion will cough it up. Luke McDonald/Anthony Stevens esque in this regard.

Sheezel - Unlike George, he doesn't look at all underdone. He has that bolt upright perfect posture that Pendlebury has that makes you think his parents strapped a dictionary between his shoulder blades during high school. His ball use is simply supurb. I don't mean good, I mean didn't miss a target for the entire session and barely missed a 10cm grouping on the middle of each of his targets chests for 90 minutes type good. He's quiet at the moment on the field and definitely looks the type that is drinking everything in. He's got a pretty stocky frame, in the separation drill that I mentioned with Drury, he cruises a bit and lacks that genuine explosive 5m burst and I suspect he's home is going to be across half forward, where his engine will get him up and back continually, rather than deep forward where he will rely on seperation.

Powell and Chom have both put on noticeable size, probably 5kg+ for each of them. Tom is physically starting to look like an AFL footballer rather than a kid. Chom is just ready. He was jumping on heads, he looks like a man now and the type of athletic forward we need to help out Larks. Kallan Dawson did really well defending him on a few occasions.

Will Phillips is winding back the clock to this time last year, where he looked imperious. He looks super fit, hungry, trained completely, putting in extra running between drills and was the center piece around alot of the ball movement stuff. He's absolutely going to captain the club at some stage. His Dad was there today, as he was last week as well, so obviously plenty of family support after the year he had.

Goats is big, like 10kg bigger than this time last year, I suspect the club is going to continue with the use of him off the wing this year given how much improvement he showed in the VFL and how easy he found the ball in his AFL debut.

Howes first kick in a training drill for North was a 30m mung off the side of his boot that missed the leading target by about 30m. I thought "You will fit right in!"
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Cracking write up Sphynx great training report to kick off preseason.
 
Sphynx said:
Alright.

Perez and Corr were going about their best impersonation of a cross fit competition at the open door of the gym, between boxing circuits and weights. Flynn is a bit of a monster at his age. I was going to take a picture of Flynn, but with his top off, I felt like I would have been breaching some sort of digital revenge pr0n law.

I didn't see Stevo, Zurhaar, Bonar, Logue, Tucker, Greenwood, Spicer. I presume they were in the gym if there.

LDU, CCJ and Goater were doing a mix between the ground work and additional running.

Tarryn was training exclusively on his own, shadowed at all times by a S&C coach, he wasn't doing the high intensity circuits Flynn and Corr were doing and wasn't doing the running with LDU, Goater, CCJ etc. He then spent the last 15 minutes of training in the interchange bench. I asked one of the fitness coaches, he mentioned "he needs to get his running numbers up before partaking in ground work". I think the cuddle and the foot up the bum that Clarko mentioned was in line for J*F probably applies to Tarryn as well.

Pretty low intensity session with about 25 mins of a full ground drills, then some specialist forward and back 50-60m drills, some focusing on deliberate delivery inside 50 with a full zone in place by the opposition.

I mentioned in my posts, I think the most impressive person on the track regarding my initial expectations driving there to what I saw was probably Blake Drury. I've seen a bit of him at NAB League level, but I like to see them early in pre-season to gauge them against AFL bodies. So he gets the 'Alan Obst extended write up' from the session:

To start with, he's tiny, but that's not a bad thing. He's about a similar size to Boomer, minus the 25 years of weights routines. I mentioned in the posts that I think he's one of those freak natural ball sport athletes. When they split into this weird Gaelic football drill where you could only kick it off the ground and then pick it up with no U-turns allowed, he looked like a natural with the other ball. In all the various multiple ball handballing games, he made it look easy compared to others. He just looks like one of those AB de Villiers types.

In terms of his skill set. In the full ground work he rose up with a nice vertical and took a few semi contested marks against the likes of Simpkin that made me sit up and take notice (the type of aerial work that both Lazarro and Mahoney aren't capable of and this seems definitely underreported pre-draft ). In the contested work he was very one touch and clean when others weren't, reminiscent of Will Phillips etc. Then during some brisk circle work, he was hitting low penetrating darts around 40m with regularity. I was thinking to myself (ok.....), then Ratts whistled a change in direction of the circle and he got it back wheeling around on his left side and hit a 40m dart with a completely natural and fluid ball drop on his left side (Probably 5 players would have been capable of that out there today) and I thought (OK!!!!!!) There was even a bit of noise from a few players and coaches at this.

In the specialist forward work, they were doing a drill where they double back from a lead and receive an over the top kick. I got a good look at his foot speed. He's just quick enough to get some separation, he's got a bit of zip and is a yard quicker than both Mahoney and Lazarro who failed to get any separation in the same drill. Drury closed down Sheezel to get a spoil in, in this same drill when playing as the defender

In the goal kicking drills, he was sending the ball 50-55m with ease for someone 175cm, which says to me again, he's a bit of a "freak" a bit like Boomer was with his timing and ball handling skills.

Remembering this kid also has a 2km time in the low 6:00's.

I'm calling it now, not only will he play senior football in 2022, he will play 100+ senior AFL games. I saw Patch in his first pre-season, whilst he was a tough grafter with a superb footy IQ, Drury has more weapons and skill in his little toe than Patch had and I reckon he reads the game just as well. Patch lacked AFL athletecism, whilst Drury is small, he's just quick enough and definitely well above average overhead for his height.

For the others:

Wardlaw - Trains a bit like he interviews, a bit laconic, but also looks like he hasn't played in 7-8 months and is a bit underdone early days. Shades of when Will Phil came to us after the knee inury and Covid. In terms of the ball work, like Goater last year, his athletic attributes jump straight out at training. He hangs in the air with that monster vertical and can pull down one handed marks and handball recieves that others simply can't get to. He's going to be one of those hot and cold ball users by foot, he trys to hit most targets with real penetration. I suspect one day he looks like Nathan Buckley but on the odd occasion will cough it up. Luke McDonald/Anthony Stevens esque in this regard.

Sheezel - Unlike George, he doesn't look at all underdone. He has that bolt upright perfect posture that Pendlebury has that makes you think his parents strapped a dictionary between his shoulder blades during high school. His ball use is simply supurb. I don't mean good, I mean didn't miss a target for the entire session and barely missed a 10cm grouping on the middle of each of his targets chests for 90 minutes type good. He's quiet at the moment on the field and definitely looks the type that is drinking everything in. He's got a pretty stocky frame, in the separation drill that I mentioned with Drury, he cruises a bit and lacks that genuine explosive 5m burst and I suspect he's home is going to be across half forward, where his engine will get him up and back continually, rather than deep forward where he will rely on seperation.

Powell and Chom have both put on noticeable size, probably 5kg+ for each of them. Tom is physically starting to look like an AFL footballer rather than a kid. Chom is just ready. He was jumping on heads, he looks like a man now and the type of athletic forward we need to help out Larks. Kallan Dawson did really well defending him on a few occasions.

Will Phillips is winding back the clock to this time last year, where he looked imperious. He looks super fit, hungry, trained completely, putting in extra running between drills and was the center piece around alot of the ball movement stuff. He's absolutely going to captain the club at some stage. His Dad was there today, as he was last week as well, so obviously plenty of family support after the year he had.

Goats is big, like 10kg bigger than this time last year, I suspect the club is going to continue with the use of him off the wing this year given how much improvement he showed in the VFL and how easy he found the ball in his AFL debut.

Howes first kick in a training drill for North was a 30m mung off the side of his boot that missed the leading target by about 30m. I thought "You will fit right in!"
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Take a bow Sphynx. Top bloody training report that. 👍

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Any wrestling with Monkhorst sessions yet ?
 
Sphynx said:
Alright.

Perez and Corr were going about their best impersonation of a cross fit competition at the open door of the gym, between boxing circuits and weights. Flynn is a bit of a monster at his age. I was going to take a picture of Flynn, but with his top off, I felt like I would have been breaching some sort of digital revenge pr0n law.

I didn't see Stevo, Zurhaar, Bonar, Logue, Tucker, Greenwood, Spicer. I presume they were in the gym if there.

LDU, CCJ and Goater were doing a mix between the ground work and additional running.

Tarryn was training exclusively on his own, shadowed at all times by a S&C coach, he wasn't doing the high intensity circuits Flynn and Corr were doing and wasn't doing the running with LDU, Goater, CCJ etc. He then spent the last 15 minutes of training in the interchange bench. I asked one of the fitness coaches, he mentioned "he needs to get his running numbers up before partaking in ground work". I think the cuddle and the foot up the bum that Clarko mentioned was in line for J*F probably applies to Tarryn as well.

Pretty low intensity session with about 25 mins of a full ground drills, then some specialist forward and back 50-60m drills, some focusing on deliberate delivery inside 50 with a full zone in place by the opposition.

I mentioned in my posts, I think the most impressive person on the track regarding my initial expectations driving there to what I saw was probably Blake Drury. I've seen a bit of him at NAB League level, but I like to see them early in pre-season to gauge them against AFL bodies. So he gets the 'Alan Obst extended write up' from the session:

To start with, he's tiny, but that's not a bad thing. He's about a similar size to Boomer, minus the 25 years of weights routines. I mentioned in the posts that I think he's one of those freak natural ball sport athletes. When they split into this weird Gaelic football drill where you could only kick it off the ground and then pick it up with no U-turns allowed, he looked like a natural with the other ball. In all the various multiple ball handballing games, he made it look easy compared to others. He just looks like one of those AB de Villiers types.

In terms of his skill set. In the full ground work he rose up with a nice vertical and took a few semi contested marks against the likes of Simpkin that made me sit up and take notice (the type of aerial work that both Lazarro and Mahoney aren't capable of and this seems definitely underreported pre-draft ). In the contested work he was very one touch and clean when others weren't, reminiscent of Will Phillips etc. Then during some brisk circle work, he was hitting low penetrating darts around 40m with regularity. I was thinking to myself (ok.....), then Ratts whistled a change in direction of the circle and he got it back wheeling around on his left side and hit a 40m dart with a completely natural and fluid ball drop on his left side (Probably 5 players would have been capable of that out there today) and I thought (OK!!!!!!) There was even a bit of noise from a few players and coaches at this.

In the specialist forward work, they were doing a drill where they double back from a lead and receive an over the top kick. I got a good look at his foot speed. He's just quick enough to get some separation, he's got a bit of zip and is a yard quicker than both Mahoney and Lazarro who failed to get any separation in the same drill. Drury closed down Sheezel to get a spoil in, in this same drill when playing as the defender

In the goal kicking drills, he was sending the ball 50-55m with ease for someone 175cm, which says to me again, he's a bit of a "freak" a bit like Boomer was with his timing and ball handling skills.

Remembering this kid also has a 2km time in the low 6:00's.

I'm calling it now, not only will he play senior football in 2022, he will play 100+ senior AFL games. I saw Patch in his first pre-season, whilst he was a tough grafter with a superb footy IQ, Drury has more weapons and skill in his little toe than Patch had and I reckon he reads the game just as well. Patch lacked AFL athletecism, whilst Drury is small, he's just quick enough and definitely well above average overhead for his height.

For the others:

Wardlaw - Trains a bit like he interviews, a bit laconic, but also looks like he hasn't played in 7-8 months and is a bit underdone early days. Shades of when Will Phil came to us after the knee inury and Covid. In terms of the ball work, like Goater last year, his athletic attributes jump straight out at training. He hangs in the air with that monster vertical and can pull down one handed marks and handball recieves that others simply can't get to. He's going to be one of those hot and cold ball users by foot, he trys to hit most targets with real penetration. I suspect one day he looks like Nathan Buckley but on the odd occasion will cough it up. Luke McDonald/Anthony Stevens esque in this regard.

Sheezel - Unlike George, he doesn't look at all underdone. He has that bolt upright perfect posture that Pendlebury has that makes you think his parents strapped a dictionary between his shoulder blades during high school. His ball use is simply supurb. I don't mean good, I mean didn't miss a target for the entire session and barely missed a 10cm grouping on the middle of each of his targets chests for 90 minutes type good. He's quiet at the moment on the field and definitely looks the type that is drinking everything in. He's got a pretty stocky frame, in the separation drill that I mentioned with Drury, he cruises a bit and lacks that genuine explosive 5m burst and I suspect he's home is going to be across half forward, where his engine will get him up and back continually, rather than deep forward where he will rely on seperation.

Powell and Chom have both put on noticeable size, probably 5kg+ for each of them. Tom is physically starting to look like an AFL footballer rather than a kid. Chom is just ready. He was jumping on heads, he looks like a man now and the type of athletic forward we need to help out Larks. Kallan Dawson did really well defending him on a few occasions.

Will Phillips is winding back the clock to this time last year, where he looked imperious. He looks super fit, hungry, trained completely, putting in extra running between drills and was the center piece around alot of the ball movement stuff. He's absolutely going to captain the club at some stage. His Dad was there today, as he was last week as well, so obviously plenty of family support after the year he had.

Goats is big, like 10kg bigger than this time last year, I suspect the club is going to continue with the use of him off the wing this year given how much improvement he showed in the VFL and how easy he found the ball in his AFL debut.

Howes first kick in a training drill for North was a 30m mung off the side of his boot that missed the leading target by about 30m. I thought "You will fit right in!"
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Great write up Sphynx. Really well covered. Agree on everything. Drury the standout today of the new players. Comben soaring like a bird to clunk one in the middle the other one.

First noticed Drury when he was casually hitting the net from 50. Then noticed his lateral movement. At ease either side. Noticed he kicks well both feet in his highlights but at ease either hand as well. The Gaelic drill that was me the was very very good in and his ease on either side was noticeable.

Thought he will play for certain after about 15 minutes watching him. Will give it the lot. One to watch.
 
speedy said:
A couple of my observations -
1. Charlie's biceps are bigger than his quads. This is positive but a little negative too.
2. Mr Warlord....Mr Monkhorst would like his shorts back.
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muttley45 said:
Any wrestling with Monkhorst sessions yet ?
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George wrestled Monky for his shorts and by all reports the Warlord won.
 
berniemccarthy said:
Great write up Sphynx. Really well covered. Agree on everything. Drury the standout today of the new players. Comben soaring like a bird to clunk one in the middle the other one.

First noticed Drury when he was casually hitting the net from 50. Then noticed his lateral movement. At ease either side. Noticed he kicks well both feet in his highlights but at ease either hand as well. The Gaelic drill that was me the was very very good in and his ease on either side was noticeable.

Thought he will play for certain after about 15 minutes watching him. Will give it the lot. One to watch.
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I mentioned it in his player thread, but I went and checked his combine testing results.

4th biggest hands in the draft (24.9cm), behind Madden, Lemmey and Barnett, all 200cm+ ruckman. They are 25cm taller than him. His handspan is 10mm bigger than Cadmans and 5mm bigger than Busslinger and Van Es. All genuine KPP's.


Most of the other smaller mids around his height were in the 20-21cm hand span range. That is a huge difference comparitively. His hands are 42mm larger than Olli Hollands.


Certainly explains why he was so clean at ground level and why he appeared so strong overhead for a 176.0cm player on first very close viewing.
 
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Worth pointing out out that Jack Sinclair who won Saints BNF was 1 Rookie pick as well. It’s what you do with an opportunity.
 

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