Treatment of Skinner

[Unnamed1]

Seen this week's team and cannot believe that Skinner is out.

What sort of treatment is it to a young, excited player, to play him for 1/4 and then drop him? Ridiculous if you ask me.

Poor old Skinner, his confidence will have gone from sky high to ziltch in the blink of an eye. Eade has a lot to answer for this.

Is it just me, or does our treatment of indigenous players leave a lot to be desired?

 

[Kelvin31]

Very poor effort from Eade and MC.
Subbed a first gamer (again), gives him 25 minutes of football and then dumps him. Poor man management.

 

[SonOfScray]

Don't get it, pretty disappointing for Skinner. Thought using him as a sub was pretty poor in the first place, would prefer him to be given a few opportunities, a clear role to perform and see what he can offer to team at this level.

His 1st taste of AFL was too brief for any lessons to be learned from our perspective, certainly. Maybe too little for him as well.

 

[tonydean]

Enough said...

 

[Gridlock'd]

I agree. Bad form.

 

[Mr. Walker]

I tend to agree.....but. Without being on the inside it is hard to know. If Skinner played completly against instructions then Eade should be congratulated for setting the standard so early in his career. Maybe it could have ben handled differently with a warning or a chance to prove himself. only the MC know

 

[G-Mo77]

I guess he was the only one who was "Put on Notice" after last week.

 

[Unnamed1]

I tend to agree.....but. Without being on the inside it is hard to know. If Skinner played completly against instructions then Eade should be congratulated for setting the standard so early in his career. Maybe it could have ben handled differently with a warning or a chance to prove himself. only the MC know

Still.. seems bloody pointless if you ask me

 

[the dog's kennel]

I see only two possible scenarios:

1. He was told he would only be played for 1 game so he had a taste of senior footy. And only if he went gangbusters would he stay. That way he never had any expectations of playing more than a qtr or two once he was told he'd be the sub.

2. It was poor man-management from MC.

I hope it was scenario 1.

 

[Werewolf]

Poor old Skinner, his confidence will have gone from sky high to ziltch in the blink of an eye.

I doubt that very much. He'll appreciate the run and come back stronger.

Is it just me, or does our treatment of indigenous players leave a lot to be desired?

It may be just you. Sure, Djerrkura should have gotten more games this year, but you'd have to admit Stack has been treated generously.

I've always liked Hill, he may not be as tough as Glenn Archer but he's got talent and has a go. He's a better utility than Everitt IMO.

 

[G-Mo77]

I see only two possible scenarios:

1. He was told he would only be played for 1 game so he had a taste of senior footy. And only if he went gangbusters would he stay. That way he never had any expectations of playing more than a qtr or two once he was told he'd be the sub.

2. It was poor man-management from MC.

I hope it was scenario 1.

It's 2 which ever way you look at it. There is absolutely no point in bringing in a first gamer if they only intended him to play one week. Skinner is still raw so why not wait until he is ready and let him get a few weeks to learn how AFL football is played.

 

[dogwatch]

I see only two possible scenarios:

1. He was told he would only be played for 1 game so he had a taste of senior footy. And only if he went gangbusters would he stay. That way he never had any expectations of playing more than a qtr or two once he was told he'd be the sub.

2. It was poor man-management from MC.

I hope it was scenario 1.

Well put DK, I agree with this assessment and like you I hope it was scenario 1 but I greatly fear that it was scenario 2. I also think he should have got a proper run in his first game - maybe playing until 3/4 time and being subbed out.

However I do not go along with the suggestion that we are exceptionally bad at handling indigenous players.

 

[black pup]

Lake and Gilbee first game for season Willy v Werribee,both played very ordinary games at best.Both selected in senior next week,what a joke,then they played Gilbee at Willy following week when we had bye for match fitness,good idea but why not Lake, what did they did not know Lakes circumstances then.Hudson and Gia auto selections last week ,both with no form to date this season.Skinner words fail me- played last quarter only, with a bunch of highly paid non performers- mid field cheats-could not agree more .It is too easy to get a game with the bulldogs and the trouble starts with our leadership group, backed up by our selectors who are too gutless to act on the mediocrity dished up each week .I won't start on the excuses from Eade and co, it only gets worse-but as we have been told it is a long season,our president tells us this week we can still make top four.This is a big worry,time to toughen dogs

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

I havent seen the game but was Skinner really terrible when he was on for the last quarter or was there worse players than him? I am thinking for him to get dropped he would have had to have been Raph Clarke like

 

[Gus]

I havent seen the game but was Skinner really terrible when he was on for the last quarter or was there worse players than him? I am thinking for him to get dropped he would have had to have been Raph Clarke like

Couldn't get into the game. Two disposals, 1 mark and 0.1 if I recall correctly.

 

[KeilorUnder9s]

Couldn't get into the game. Two disposals, 1 mark and 0.1 if I recall correctly.

Not terrible when you consider it was his first game and it was obviously in a high pressure game. I agree with the OP should have been another chance this week.

 

[ontheup]

Our club has lost the PLOT

 

[Zephiisdaman]

It was a perfect scenario to drop him. The MC would have constructively told Zephi what the requirements are for him to become an AFL player. He would have seen in the 25 mins he played that he must work harder and be more consistent. The MC were brave to give him a taste and I believe it will be good for his development. They wouldn't have given him a game if they thought it wasn't worth it.
I think it is fantastic by the MC to give a kid that was drafted at the arse end of the draft a game so early in his career. Hopefully he has the hunger now to work on his weakness's and hone his freakish skills and just maybe we will have a few years of watching a real excitement machine dominate our forward line.

 

[G-Mo77]

It was a perfect scenario to drop him. The MC would have constructively told Zephi what the requirements are for him to become an AFL player. He would have seen in the 25 mins he played that he must work harder and be more consistent. The MC were brave to give him a taste and I believe it will be good for his development. They wouldn't have given him a game if they thought it wasn't worth it.
I think it is fantastic by the MC to give a kid that was drafted at the arse end of the draft a game so early in his career. .

I think the exact opposite of what you just wrote. I think the MC have just set him back further with what they did. He should not have been selected at all and we would have been better off with a more seasoned player to play the sub role while Zeph would have been better off playing a full game of football at VFL level.

Hopefully he has the hunger now to work on his weakness's and hone his freakish skills and just maybe we will have a few years of watching a real excitement machine dominate our forward line

I do hope this happens though.

 

[Bulldog Joe]

I do agree that he should have been introduced straight into the game and think that all debutants need to start on the ground so that they can channel the nervous energy and get the feel of the game.

Unfortunately he did look out of place and was often leading too soon and caught under the ball. He seems to lack the strength in one on one but needs to be able to run and use his leap.

If he has got what it takes he will take on the lessons.

I believe we have improved our indigenous treatment with the employment of Brett Goodes as welfare officer being a step in the right direction.

 

[#14Ward]

im starting to get sick of rodney eade and the mc. if rocket isnt gone by 2012, not that it'll matter to many, but ill walk on the club.

ATM no balls, and just silly silly management. No wonder we're stuck in the dark ages.

 

[dogwatch]

im starting to get sick of rodney eade and the mc. if rocket isnt gone by 2012, not that it'll matter to many, but ill walk on the club.

ATM no balls, and just silly silly management. No wonder we're stuck in the dark ages.

The club is trembling in its boots that one of its fair weather supporters is threatening to walk out in a fit of petulant pique. It's never happened before!

Wardy, we get these calls every year. I understand your frustration and you should feel free to express it here, but if you love the club you won't walk.

And if you do walk ... well we don't need that type of supporter anyway.

 

[tonydean]

No, I disagree, what we don't need is all these muppet supporters that keep accepting 2nd best for our club and keep their mouth shut and don't vent their passion out in the open. When it was clear in the mid2000's that Rhode couldn't coach to save himself and was 'killing' the club, there was a few of us 'passionate' supporters who were about to start a big petition amongst the members to oust him.

It might yet happen to Eade as well. Although, I don't think Eade is all the blame for our poor form atm, I believe we'd go a longer way to becoming a better club if we have more 'passionate' supporters and not most of the muppets that I continually talk to and see at games every week.

 

[OldSchool]

Seen this week's team and cannot believe that Skinner is out.

What sort of treatment is it to a young, excited player, to play him for 1/4 and then drop him? Ridiculous if you ask me.

Poor old Skinner, his confidence will have gone from sky high to ziltch in the blink of an eye. Eade has a lot to answer for this.

Is it just me, or does our treatment of indigenous players leave a lot to be desired?

We shouldn't be upset with the MC for dropping him this week because the fact is that he shouldn't have been selected to start with.

He still has a lot to learn and Williamstown is the ideal place for him to do that.

 

[OldSchool]

im starting to get sick of rodney eade and the mc. if rocket isnt gone by 2012, not that it'll matter to many, but ill walk on the club.

Conditional supporter are you?
I can't think of any reason why I would walk out on the club but certainly Eade being there next year or not wouldn't be a deciding factor.