List Mgmt. Treloar officially nominates Pies as his pref club (Mods: please use this thread for all AT posts)

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Agree totally. Can't believe he wasn't delisted. His height is the only thing that saved him IMO, because we are a bit light in the taller end of our list. But then again, if we get Finlayson...

Keeping gault on the rookie list for another season is a no brainer. Personally I like his mobility and obviously his height. Was injured in his first year so last season was basically his first. Tons of upside to retain him, and no downside.
 
Keeping gault on the rookie list for another season is a no brainer. Personally I like his mobility and obviously his height. Was injured in his first year so last season was basically his first. Tons of upside to retain him, and no downside.

I see plenty of downside when he has slipped over for the tenth time in a game and is pretty much upside down. Or is that downside up? :p
 
Keeping gault on the rookie list for another season is a no brainer. Personally I like his mobility and obviously his height. Was injured in his first year so last season was basically his first. Tons of upside to retain him, and no downside.

It's a good thing he has mobility and height because he can't play football for shit!
 
I'm prepared to wait another season before writing him off. Costs bugger alll to retain as a rookie, talls need time

Yeah we'll see. If I were a betting man I'd have good money on him not surviving the next list lodgement if Finlayson is included in the deal for Treloar.
 
I'm prepared to wait another season before writing him off. Costs bugger alll to retain as a rookie, talls need time

I don't like bashing young players but I can't see any upside with Gault. He was originally picked by us with a late pick in the 2011 draft (65). He was then delisted and re-rookied by us in the 2013 draft.

So 2016 would be his 5th year on the list. I haven't seen enough improvement in him to warrant continuing with him. If we don't get Finlayson he may be saved due to our lack of depth but that's all.

Another question is whether we can retain him in the rookie list anyway? I thought there was a max time limit on it.

Freo need KPFs don't they? As a young WA lad surely we could send him their way for a pick; I'd take a 7th rounder about 120ish. Might be overs though.
 

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I would like this twice if I could. I don't think it is possible for Robbo to make himself look any more ridiculous than he has today. Such righteous anger from him over nothing, driven solely by hatred for Collingwood.

It seems everyone has been out to **** us this trade period, clubs and media alike, yet we held our nerve and kept our cool despite everyone beating their chest and refusing to deal with us, ringing the AFL to complain that a player didn't choose them, writing articles about our integrity etc., etc., Hell, even Melbourne tried to play hardball with us by insisting Kennedy couldn't be used in a Howe trade.

Despite overwhelming hostility from all angles we decided on our targets months out and went out and got them. Hine, Balme and co. have earnt themselves a beer or two when these deals go through.

And while I'm at it, it shits me how everyone falls over themselves to give Hawthorn such praise for their ability to get trades done quickly, even our own fans have been doing it ( "Hawthorn would have had it done by now")

When you only have pick 17-19 as your best pick the last few years and you have one target in mind, like a McEvoy or O'Rourke etc, then of course it's easy to do a deal. If they had pick 7 would they have just thrown it at St Kilda for McEvoy on the first day of trade week? Of course not. If they had pick 3 would be they so eager to put an offer in for Carlisle? I'm guessing they would sit on it for a bit and see if there was another way. They are no better at sealing deals than anyone else, especially considering they don't have the entire league trying to thwart them at every turn.

Agree good post.
Same with Wells at geelong he knows how to get it done blah blah... but if we had used a first round pick on henderson i would of been p1ssed off... same with north first round for Anderson..
Im happy for us to take the time for us to get the best possible deal we can, even if upsets the impatient, gotta get it done now, brigade that are all over this place
 
Keeping gault on the rookie list for another season is a no brainer. Personally I like his mobility and obviously his height. Was injured in his first year so last season was basically his first. Tons of upside to retain him, and no downside.
Dafuq? Gault was drafted in 2011. He's been spudding it up for four years now. Needs to be delisted ASAP if we get Finlayson or someone like McKay in the draft.
 
It's certainly a lot to give up... but hey - Treloar is a guaranteed gun. Already played 70 odd games as a 22 year old and has been playing against men since he was like 16.

He'll be a 300 game player at our club. We can't say that about Freeman, and we couldn't even say that is a certainty with Scharenberg. I think we do the deal. If we need to, we trade to get in to the top 10 next year. Our club has had the most 1st round picks of any club in the last 3 years I think (I read that somewhere)... so we can have a year or 2 without getting a top 10. Plus, if we're getting Treloar AND Aish in, that's virtually 2 top 5 picks who just so happen to be ready made players. Add that to Crisp and De Goey last year... We have the best young ruckmen in the league, and Taylor Adams whose a jet. Steele is only 24, too.

I think its worth the sacrifice.

To put it more bluntly we need more top end talent and less role players. You do the deal on the guarantee of getting quality.
 
To put it more bluntly we need more top end talent and less role players. You do the deal on the guarantee of getting quality.
Stating the obvious: winning established top end talent helps retain and attract other top end talent.
It is a virtuous feedback loop.
Treloar trade is an absolute winner.
 
Been watching a lot of Treloar recently. Any 22 year old inside mid who averages 28 possessions whilst having the pace of Ben Sinclair and great footskills to boot (something everyone on this board has been screaming out for) is extremely valuable. Clearly he hasn't reached his peak yet, as he doesn't influence as many contests as the AFL's elite like Ablett, Fyfe, Gray and even his teammate Ward. (Not saying I expect him to get to the formers' level). Collingwood were ranked first for contested possessions in 2015 but were poor on the outside. With Treloar in the side, and his qualities I mentioned earlier, should greatly improve our midfield. He really is quite clearly our best recruit in over 20 years.
 
Really? Pace of Ben Sinclair? I haven't seen that yet but by gosh I hope you're right!

I don't know if he's Sinner quick because I haven't seen him get it in space on the outside often enough to be certain, but, IMO, he's like Swanny and is deceptively quick for the role he plays.
 
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