Past Troy 'Bunnings' Selwood (2003-2010)

[Lynch takes a mark]

Re: Troy Selwood

Do you think that if Troy & Adam swapped jumpers andybody would notice ?

Like if one of them went down with a hamstring 2 days before a grand final ?

 

[Hollow Knight]

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Do you think that if Troy & Adam swapped jumpers andybody would notice ?

Like if one of them went down with a hamstring 2 days before a grand final ?

Can very easily tell the difference between them.

Could only ever tell Brad or Chris Scott by their jumper number though.

 

[Ray Button]

Re: Troy Selwood

Don't get me wrong Ray, his possession is appalling and sub-standard at times. However, the coaching staff place alot of faith in him and none of us know the instructions given to him, so we shouldn't be too quick to judge and underestimate his role to the side.

I'm happy that he more than fulfills the tagging part of his role in an excellent fashion. But he actually does get a reasonable number of possessions along the way (towards 15 incl 4-5 marks per game this year which compares favorably with quite a few others in the team).

Therein lies the problem - if he's going to have possession of the ball, and therefore must dispose of it (short of handing it directly to the nearest opposition player), it would be way better if he can do it to the Lion's advantage. Hence my suggestion (positive I hope) that he be given the opportunity to sort out this aspect of his game in the Bs. Think how much more valuable he would be then. Think Ling.

 

[Dylan12]

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Hence my suggestion (positive I hope) that he be given the opportunity to sort out this aspect of his game in the Bs. Think how much more valuable he would be then. Think Ling.

I would love him to improve his skills and you are right saying how bigger of an asset he would be. I have thought for a while that if he could take the next step up how much it would benefit the team.

The tagger I have alot of time for is Kane Cornes (he equally blankets his man and damages the opposition with his disposal/goalkicking) and I had hoped Selwood would achieve this level. While I have come to accept him as the player he is, it is obvious he won't get to Kane's level, it would be nice if he could elevate his game more.

My only query is that if we were to relegate him to the twos, who plays the strict negating role? I am at a loss, because Sherman needs a licence to make use of his attacking game and not be so accountable.

 

[mish33]

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What bunno does in these next two games will go a long way to shaping my assessment of his year so far. He's been terrible at times, but he's also shown a lot of promise too. His form this year has largely followed the form line of our team, which shows to me that he is playing an important role for us, and is probably the best man (him or bushy are all we've got really) for the job.

With our big three backs back in, I think this frees bunno up to play a defensive role further up the ground this weekend. If he can go through the game largely under the radar and keep his opponent under too, then I think he'll have done his job well.

But until then, I'm still not quite convinced.

 

[acuguy]

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Finally some constructive footy conversations, mine were deleted, let's think about our golden period of 01, 02, 03, who was our main shut down man- Shaun Hart, he is was a very skilled footballer and was great at beating one of the main opposition threats one on one, let's look at the 2 top clubs taggers, Sewell and Ling, both players are skilled and hurt the opposition. I hope you can see what i am saying. I am sure Selwood is highly regarded by this current group because he is selfless, determined and hard at it, but if we want to be a top 4/premiership threat than he should not be part of the plan. He may be one of those blokes who suffers from finals heartbreak when we make it. FWIW I think he should get Cross this week

 

[Old Den]

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The sports people and performers in all walks of life that are most admired are the ones that confound the critics

 

[Ruse]

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What bunno does in these next two games will go a long way to shaping my assessment of his year so far. He's been terrible at times, but he's also shown a lot of promise too. His form this year has largely followed the form line of our team, which shows to me that he is playing an important role for us, and is probably the best man (him or bushy are all we've got really) for the job.

With our big three backs back in, I think this frees bunno up to play a defensive role further up the ground this weekend. If he can go through the game largely under the radar and keep his opponent under too, then I think he'll have done his job well.

But until then, I'm still not quite convinced.

I doubt it. He has no peripheral vision so he needs to play back in defence as far back as possible or the opposition player will just step sideways and leave him for dead. And he also has no awareness so will need to play preferably as a loose man in defence or his opponent will to him suddenly pop up out of nowhere and take the ball away. With tunnel vision like that I'd be scared of crossing the road let alone play football.

 

[John]

Re: Troy Selwood

Finally some constructive footy conversations, mine were deleted, let's think about our golden period of 01, 02, 03, who was our main shut down man- Shaun Hart, he is was a very skilled footballer and was great at beating one of the main opposition threats one on one, let's look at the 2 top clubs taggers, Sewell and Ling, both players are skilled and hurt the opposition. I hope you can see what i am saying. I am sure Selwood is highly regarded by this current group because he is selfless, determined and hard at it, but if we want to be a top 4/premiership threat than he should not be part of the plan. He may be one of those blokes who suffers from finals heartbreak when we make it. FWIW I think he should get Cross this week

I have not seen Sewell play as a tagger this season nor much of last. In fact he looks to me to have been playing on ball ala Simon Black and has also developed into as extremely attacking player from that role. He also impresses me with his ability to get a hand ball to his target when in heavy traffic and also kick truly when under pressure. Not too bad for one once considered a one trick pony as a tagger and whom is now more than a key figure in the Hawks lineup. Considering that you only think of him as a tagger you must be very impressed that he won their B&F in 07 to follow up his R/up in 06. It must also make you think that considering Selwoods back injury and the fact that due to having to come back from that severe injury that he has worked very very hard since and that he did and has shown some skills, he could well be worth persevering with for at least a season or 2 yet.

As to being highly regarded that is a very important prerequisite to a team ethic that should not be lightly dismissed. If a player like Selwood is playing well enough to retain his place (he has certainly shown that over at least the last 3 weeks and it would be churlish of one to deny otherwise) and is also willing to take a hit for the team and off the field of play is admired for his fortitude, spirit and work ethic then to dismiss him prior to all chances being offered him as an individual would in my not so humble opinion be rather disappointing.

I have no idea as to if he will "make it" or not. I actually suspect that he may struggle but I do hope to be wrong. In fact so wrong I hope that he wins a Brownlow, Coleman, Norm Smith, a B&F, a flag, finds a cure for cancer and brings peace to the Middle East all in one season.

 

[John]

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I doubt it. He has no peripheral vision so he needs to play back in defence as far back as possible or the opposition player will just step sideways and leave him for dead. And he also has no awareness so will need to play preferably as a loose man in defence or his opponent will to him suddenly pop up out of nowhere and take the ball away. With tunnel vision like that I'd be scared of crossing the road let alone play football.

So as your suggesting that he is that poor a player you must be well and truly amazed that he is selected?

 

[Ruse]

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So as your suggesting that he is that poor a player you must be well and truly amazed that he is selected?

I was being sarcastic I don't believe that awareness is innate. It's just poor or indecisive decision making that leads to being caught with the ball but strength and speed with both hand and foot do give players extra time to think.

 

[Loyal Lion]

Re: Troy Selwood

One thing I really noticed about Selwood yesterday was how often he goes to ground.

At critical times in a contest he loses his feet.

I don't doubt his courage but I don't think he is in our best 22 at the moment.

 

[nobs14]

Re: Troy Selwood

He was very ordinary today. Ward a second gamer for the Bulldogs, out marked him in a contested situation three times in the first quarter.

 

[Loyal Lion]

Re: Troy Selwood

He was very ordinary today. Ward a second gamer for the Bulldogs, out marked him in a contested situation three times in the first quarter.

Yere it's hard to see him cementing a permanent place in the side. He doesn't have the skills or stamina to play in the midfield. He get's exposed in the backline because of his lack of strength & nerve.

Don't think he is good enough to be a tagger as well.

 

[nobs14]

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Yere it's hard to see him cementing a permanent place in the side. He doesn't have the skills or stamina to play in the midfield. He get's exposed in the backline because of his lack of strength & nerve.

Don't think he is good enough to be a tagger as well.

Totally agree.

 

[konstas_87]

Re: Troy Selwood

I have been one of the Selwood doubters, i cant deny it.
However his effort today puts him ahead of about 15 other Lions players (V the Dees), and for that i applaud him.

 

[lionslady]

Re: Troy Selwood

Ive always thought selwood had it in him, and hes usual or even better preformance today whilst everyone looked to be half a world away was very good. You can now see how much of an effort he puts in behind the mistakes he can make, and that dropping him means loosing quiet a good tagger.

 

[Grimreepah]

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Jonathan Healy

ABSOLUTE SHOCKER: Troy Selwood. The Lions tagger had a shocker against the Bombers. He gave away a valuable 50m penalty late in the third term that helped the Bombers wrest back the advantage from his team. Selwood finished the night with a mere five possessions and Leigh Matthews might be running out of patience with the 24-year-old.

 

[Grimreepah]

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AFLQ

Troy Selwood continued his good form with another prolific display, winning numerous clearances and working hard to win many possessions in the midfield.

 

[acuguy]

Re: Troy Selwood

Good to see Troy is playing well in the reserves. Don't know if he fits into the plans for the rest of the season.

 

[Grimreepah]

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Troy Selwood on his Fitzroy heritage

I'VE loved football since I was born and Fitzroy footy club was everything to me as a kid. Growing up in Bendigo, I was the only one of four boys to follow my dad in barracking for Fitzroy, probably because they were pretty woeful at the time. In fact, I remember being the only kid at St Therese's primary who wore the red, blue and yellow colours to school in the 1980s and '90s.
If Fitzroy got within six goals of a side or we put in a good effort, I'd wear my scarf to school and treat it like a victory.
We beat Fremantle in 1996, our last victory before the merger, and I wore my Fitzroy jumper for the entire week. I was just so ecstatic.
There was a park across the road from our house and I'd spend hours there with my brothers pretending to be Darren "Doc" Wheildon and trying to snap goals over my shoulder.
However, John Blakey was my No. 1 idol and when I first came to Brisbane, Blakey was an assistant coach. Being able to work closely with him was pretty special.
Brisbane was one of only two clubs not to interview me at draft camp — I was that shattered. I thought, "How dare they? They don't understand how much I love the club."
When Brisbane selected me in the draft it was totally unexpected, but it's worked out so well. I'm living the dream.
The first time I wore Fitzroy colours, Brisbane was playing my brother's team, West Coast, in Perth. I put on the jumper at training and got goose bumps. It turned out that game was the most amazing win I've ever had in my football career. We beat the reigning premier.
In Victoria you still see so many fans wearing raggedy, old Fitzroy jumpers, and I just think it's so good they've refused to believe Fitzroy is dead. It is still going strong.
There's no doubt in my mind that when I run out to play, I'm not just representing the Brisbane Lions, but also Fitzroy and the Brisbane Bears. I'm playing for three clubs.

 

[T Rick]

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I'm one of the few on here that has a lot of time for this bloke. Would easily be in the top 5 most courageous players in our team. I know that if i had to chose between him and the pack skirters i.e. corrie, harding etc. i'd chose Troy every time. I'm hoping Vossy turns Troy into our number 1 tagger next year, releasing Shermo onto a HFF and letting Troy do what he does best.

 

[Tassie4ever]

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I'm one of the few on here that has a lot of time for this bloke. Would easily be in the top 5 most courageous players in our team. I know that if i had to chose between him and the pack skirters i.e. corrie, harding etc. i'd chose Troy every time. I'm hoping Vossy turns Troy into our number 1 tagger next year, releasing Shermo onto a HFF and letting Troy do what he does best.

I'm with you. Who knows how the back injury that nearly finished him is still affecting him- even so, he does enough to annoy the hell out of the chosen target to suggest he's doing a good job.

We have far too many outsiders, and way too many low possession getters. We need a many as we can get of the genuine hard at it types.

 

[Lace Out]

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I'm with you. Who knows how the back injury that nearly finished him is still affecting him- even so, he does enough to annoy the hell out of the chosen target to suggest he's doing a good job.

We have far too many outsiders, and way too many low possession getters. We need a many as we can get of the genuine hard at it types.

Replace him with another hard-at-it type.He has a negative record for stopping his man and does absolutely nothing offensively.Taggers need good skills these days or the team falls behind.

His injury could be a reason but do you want to take the chance of it improving?No IMO.

 

[Grimreepah]

Re: Troy Selwood

2007 Review
Quigley's 2008 Review

2008 End of Season Review

After getting his first full preseason in since his back injury there was reason to expect Troy to get back to some of the form he showed in 2006. But unfortunately there was little, if any, improvement from last year. While no one could question his courage, his lack of pace and his poor skills and decision making stood out and caused plenty of frustration among the supporters. Eventually the club ran out of patience and he was dropped in round 16.

Now at 24 years of age, and having been on the Lions list for 6 years, his career is basically hanging by a thread. His lack of pace is becoming more and more of an issue in a game that places greater emphasis on speed. His decision making and skills don’t seem to be improving, and he is unable to shut down opponents with the same effect as he did before his back injury. In fact it may be that his back injury is just not allowing him the freedom to play as he would like.

Selwood’s best attribute has always been to shut down an opponent, and without that he looks a fairly limited player. Unless he can regain that ability it would seem there is not much of a future for him.