TSL rumors

[North Wester]

Re: Clarence about to hop?????

Not sure if this already known or not, but was having a cuppa with a former Tiger on Saturday that coached at senior level in the Premier League only recently and we were talking about Matthew Armstrong.
He mentioned that the Mariners would be a full time team next year and that Armstrong was the man to be taking on the coaching role.



LOL more to the point who isn't one over there
Just the usual strutting around like peacocks gloating about how many flags they'll win before we win another, how we should relocate our ground to Maatsuyker Island, the usual crap about how Hobart's on death's door etc etc. Hobart's 'nearly been dead' since 1970 - still here though!
Same old lame stuff from the bleach blondes in their red & white parachute jackets that hang out in the Rosny bus mall


Yeah I saw that myself and thought it looked like a very poor crowd.
It's actually a bit hard to tell with that stand because of the coloured seating, on the ABC1 game on Saturday it looked completely empty, but up towards one end there were about 50-60 people nestled in there.
Most of the crowds tend to sit in the small stand on the wing and gather around the fence up behind the cricket pavilion end in any case and up in the top of the PKF Stand.
Hard to say what the crowd was, I would guess about 650 on Saturday - it was VERY sparse.
Certainly more than the 522 Hobart got when they hosted Sth Launceston there in the middle-90's.
Sunday? Hmmmm - not a lot by the looks of it.
But it's hardly a very good advertisement playing games at such big capacity venues with no one watching, one thing I did find surprising was, the crowd was about 80% Hobart on Saturday.
The Roos have got little to no supporters at all these days.

That was the other end of the Southern Stand on Saturday.

Towards the Cricket Pavilion end on Saturday.



They'll love this...

Lauderdale on Anzac Day.

The other side of Lauderdale, same day.

Not only was Manny Lynch sacked so to was the u/16 coach Byron Howard. Lynch met with the appropriate people on Tuesday to give his run down on what transpired through the year and was cut short and was told that Matthew Armstrong will be in charge of both the u/16 &18s next year in an academy type structure. So we get another chance of getting it right. In my opinion to many times through the year our young players are in recovery mode instead of a training mode. To many hours in a car or on a plane travelling. Get them on the grass improving themselves out of their comfort zone. We get to the nationals and our fitness and strength levels are just not up to scratch. This isn't throwing a bucket of blame over anyone but we need to get the kids playing senior football more often and they can be over seen byArmstrong who is a good operator. This may be a better option for our kids that dream of getting drafted. Give them a better preparation and you never know.

 

[Still Kickin]

Demon Den

Boys can anyone shed some truth to the rumour i have been told! Cat Geappen has been re-appointed to coach North HObart next year under new President Darryn "i love lamingtons" Perry?

 

[NORKY]

Re: Demon Den

Boys can anyone shed some truth to the rumour i have been told! Cat Geappen has been re-appointed to coach North HObart next year under new President Darryn "i love lamingtons" Perry?

That would be a good move......he knows his footy and North need someone youger to help run the club....................although I think they could use him to help Geappen in a coaching role......................better still we would love to have him at Glenorchy!

 

[madmug]

Jeez what a shock, the suns been out all day Does anyone know if the TCA will be Ok for the Tiges v Dport game? Any grounds in doubt in the SFL? Up north they might have fun playing with all the flood waters around.

 

[Jokerman]

Re: Clarence about to hop?????

The way that mob of creampuffs were crapping on yesterday about how good they are and how it's a privilidge to come and play on their ground I'd laugh so hard that I'd shit my pants if they got the shunt from there
That'd be f*cking hilarious! Couldn't happen to a nicer club.

Heard someone saying that they're rumoured to be very pissed off about Lauderdale being in the comp because it's eating into their recuiting zone, not sure how true that is but that's what I heard yesterday.
Kangaroo Bay'd have a better atmosphere on match day than Bellerive, like playing in a funeral parlour.

If I was you KP I'd be worrying more about what Hobart are going to do about their own ground and the facilities there. I hope the TCA ground can be improved and in turn the competition itself. If clubs improve the facilities for players then those clubs will get stronger. Clarence playing at Kangaroo Bay would be a disaster for the competition. Don't worry though; if my information from the TCA (that's the cricket people) is correct it's not on the cards. I asked because I had heard a rumour a few months ago myself. Oh and by the way, Clarence just loves to be hated because you know what, that means the club has been recently successful, something that is sadly only a distant memory for HFC at the moment. I do sincerely hope that they can become more successful though.

 

[Barge]

Clarence - last won a flag in 2006.

And won't win it this year.

3 years - no success.

That's a Premiership Drought by their standards!

 

[roorat]

Heard a rumour today that South Launceston are in deep S**t financially again.

 

[ZZ TOP]

Re: Demon Den

heard demons got over burnie by a goal. great result for nth. hobart, wraps up a final spot i think.

 

[Kingpin]

Heard a rumour today that South Launceston are in deep S**t financially again.

YES! I spoke to someone today that has 100% knowledge on it. It's true.
Must say, it shocked me when I heard it.

If I was you KP I'd be worrying more about what Hobart are going to do about their own ground and the facilities there.

Which is exactly what I posted about on another thread.
Do a bit of reading around the threads, you'll find it and what needs to be done before lights are installed up there.
FWIW, it has nothing to do with Hobart, it's actually a Council matter and Hobart does not have the same influence on the Council that North Hobart does, which is why they've been lobbying for upgrades for several years (since 1976 to be precise).
Having said all that, I recently saw photos and building reports from the ground in 2000 (structures, electrical work, wall panellings, plumbing, gas fittings etc etc) and it is currently a 90% improvement on what it was then, but yes, it still needs proper work.
The one thing that has gone backwards is the playing surface, all the new drainage that was laid under the ground at the end of 1999 was crushed by the AC/DC concert in 2001.
North Hobart's getting a $50k upgrade to be completed by the start of next season, without going into specifics an iconic piece of North Hobart Oval is seeing it's final TFL/TSL match next Saturday in its original form.

I hope the TCA ground can be improved and in turn the competition itself. If clubs improve the facilities for players then those clubs will get stronger.

Same (in regard to the TCA). The playing surface isn't up to scratch really, but upon inspection of North Hobart on Friday, that was even worse.
Wish Ali Sultan would tip in a few mill to improve them all
I've liked the comp this year, I think it needs a lot more promoting and it seems to be lacking the 'spit & polish' of the old TANFL and original Statewide League but it's been a good start and hopefully grows stronger as the years go on.
The standard shits all over what it was in the SFL (especially earlier on in the season), only trouble is, with the weather being as poor as it's been all Winter, it's a bit hard to play to such a high standard in mudbowls.

Clarence playing at Kangaroo Bay would be a disaster for the competition. Don't worry though; if my information from the TCA (that's the cricket people) is correct it's not on the cards. I asked because I had heard a rumour a few months ago myself.

No one seriously entertained the though of the CDFC being chucked off Bellerive because AFL Tasmania and the TCA are very, very close.
AFL Tasmania wouldn't want that to happen and given that the venue has been earmarked as a Grand Final venue, there's no chance it would happen.
Would become a White Elephant of the proportions of the Derwent Entertainment Centre if that was the case and any future funding couldn't be justified if they were sent to Kangaroo Bay.
The serious one I did hear a few years back was Clarence, when they were in the SFL, being forced to play at Anzac Park, Lindisfarne - never happened though.

Oh and by the way, Clarence just loves to be hated because you know what, that means the club has been recently successful, something that is sadly only a distant memory for HFC at the moment.

I don't think that's the reason....
HFC's last flag was 10 years ago, last grand final was 6 years ago, last TFL flag was 19 years ago and TFL grand final was 17 years ago.
I was at all of them, so long ago. God I'm old. I'll just grab my walking stick...
It wasn't all that long ago that the Rooboys were an unsuccessful club with only 3 flags to its name and a long history of finals choking.
Then along came Stevie Wright.

I do sincerely hope that they can become more successful though.

We'll be fine
Apparently we're the richest club in the league , but there's a few things to work on in regard to the playing side of things.
But overall I'm happy with the way things are going and will look forward to seeing some of these matters addressed over the summer.
Got a good future should we keep the nucleus of this side together and add some experience, also I'd probably keep the same coach.

 

[whisper...]

YES! I spoke to someone today that has 100% knowledge on it. It's true.
Must say, it shocked me when I heard it.

North Hobart's getting a $50k upgrade to be completed by the start of next season, without going into specifics an iconic piece of North Hobart Oval is seeing it's final TFL/TSL match next Saturday in its original form.

Could this be an avenue for Ulvertone to get into the comp next year if south can't get their finances in order??

Iconic piece?? Hopefully the Scoreboard it is ur talking of being replace

 

[Point Post]

Saw on Win News last night that Matt Geappen's career could be over after injuring his knee at West Park on Saturday night.

Looks like it could be a full reco.

Where does this leave the Demons for next season?

 

[madmug]

If true its sad news for Mat Geappen, hes been a top player for years. Saw the ABC game on the box on(flicked between AFL & TSL)saturday, the TCA looked disgusting. Instead of lights how about fixing the drainage. Or even better how about bitting the bullet & move to NHO. Its been said before but surely we need to play TSL matches on venues that offer the players & punters decent playing conditions & comfort to view the games. Also why would we want to bring more teams into the TSL if clubs are in $$strife already?. If the competition isnt generating enough money to allow players to be paid to play finals, isnt that a warning that things need either time to settle, or a review that also lets the supporters have a say.

 

[Point Post]

Was speaking to a close mate in the North today who has close connections with South Launceston...

The rumours surrounding their financial state are complete garbabe.

If they were in such a bad way they would be kicked out of the league.

By the way, has anyone heard of the police being called to the school boys football grand final on Saturday afternoon?

 

[crows26]

I have also asked some Sth Launnie people and they have also said that South is NOT in dire straights financially, they will not make a profit but neither will a few clubs I am sure! Just need to recruit some quality players to help the good kids they have.

I was at the school boy game and no police. SPC's coach is a copper and a few parents are also, so maybe someone saw their cars and got confused. Security men were at the game as is always the case at these Grand Finals. There was a bit of a brawl caused by an incident involving Jack Boon and Beau Thorp ( see Regional footy Tas for more info!)

 

[cooee bulldog]

Does someone want to do their team of the year? From the backline, including a four man bench.

 

[Kingpin]

Iconic piece?? Hopefully the Scoreboard it is ur talking of being replace

Yep. Not torn down completely, just having a new face installed.
Mind you, after 36 years it bloody needs it too, it's been shithouse for several years now and with the gradual phasing out of those sorts of light globes the whole thing would be redundant soon.

Saw the ABC game on the box on(flicked between AFL & TSL)saturday, the TCA looked disgusting. Instead of lights how about fixing the drainage.

Yes it wasn't good (not to mention in the warm conditions it stunk too - you could smell it from the back of the Main Stand) but what is quite ironic is that if that match had have been scheduled to be played at North Hobart it would've been moved because North Hobart was even worse!
The whole playing surface up the hill needs flattening out and new drainage installed, that's one thing that's never improved over the years up there and it's a good reason why Hobart's got 20 players from the 1's & 2's on the injury list at this moment.

Or even better how about bitting the bullet & move to NHO.

Because that would be a financially irresponsible move.
The club's the richest it's been in 65 years and watch just how quick that'd all disappear if we moved down to North Hobart.
It'd be just like last time when those greedy arseholes helped to almost send us broke, it's no secret they want us gone so they can have the entire city to themselves, it's been that way for years.
Same as when we got kicked off the TCA and got shunted out to KGV in the early 80's, we lost out financially and almost went broke because of it.
It'd want to be a damn good deal and very lucrative for us to even bother leaving the TCA. Twice bitten...
Besides, with the smaller crowds at the matches these days the TCA has quite a good atmosphere for the smaller numbers.

Its been said before but surely we need to play TSL matches on venues that offer the players & punters decent playing conditions & comfort to view the games.

Valid point But at the moment you'd be playing every single game on Bellerive and Aurora Stadium, because every other ground (especially in the south and up the coast) is a mudbowl.
Wettest June since 1954 in most of the South (Hobart included), wettest winter in Hobart since 1974 so far and very wet up in Burnie & Devonport.
Aside from putting a roof over all the grounds, or all respective councils' digging up and relaying drainage at every major ground I doubt there's much that can be done.
As an aside, I still say the grounds, as wet as they are, are nowhere near as bad as what they were in the early to mid 90's during the original statewide league.
The years of 1990, 1992, 1994, 1995 and 1996 here in Hobart spring to mind, 1994-1997 up on the coast were all bad years, 1991, 1997 and 1999 in Launceston saw a lot of quagmires.
We've been spoilt in recent years with dry winters.
The spectator facilities at a lot of grounds could certainly do with some upgrading though, definitely.

Also why would we want to bring more teams into the TSL if clubs are in $$strife already?.

I was under the impression that it couldn't be altered for several years as part of the agreement when clubs signed on to join the TSL?
IE: Devonport wanting Ulverstone excluded for a period of ten years for example.
FWIW I'm not sold on the idea of expanding the number of teams in the comp.

If the competition isnt generating enough money to allow players to be paid to play finals, isnt that a warning that things need either time to settle, or a review that also lets the supporters have a say.

I only heard a little bit about that, what's the go with that?
Comp needs to settle down first most definitely.

Was speaking to a close mate in the North today who has close connections with South Launceston...

The rumours surrounding their financial state are complete garbabe.

If they were in such a bad way they would be kicked out of the league.

I hope your mate is right PP
Because it's exactly who told us that piece of info that was more concerning than anything.
Any club going badly is the last thing you'd like to see happening.
Would love to know exactly how all the clubs are going, because some of the bigger clubs who's supporter bases fell away during the SFL years are still pretty poor - North Hobart, North Launceston and Clarence are three that don't appear to have much of a following anymore - you wonder how they can get enough coin to pay for everything.

 

[Still Kickin]

This might be old news i'm not to sure. I got told on the weekend that AFL Tas help contribute to the transfer of Kane Richter to Lauderdale. Lauderdale did not have the full $5000 and only had half, so AFL tas kicked in $1500 and $1000 worth of new footies to North Hobart. If this is correct will they be assisting any other club who can't afford transfers.

 

[carltonboy_7]

It is rumour talented young gun from devonport Jordan Lewtas might make his debut this week against North Launnie. He has apparently impressed on the training track and might be givin a go

 

[ferrit1]

jordan lewtas couldnt get a kick in a power house! he was little to anything as a high school player as i played against him if he plays seniors in statewide i will spew!

 

[BearGrills16]

jordan lewtas couldnt get a kick in a power house! he was little to anything as a high school player as i played against him if he plays seniors in statewide i will spew!

Carltonboy is Jordan Lewtas??????

 

[CAPTAINCRAWF]

B. Atkin > Glenorchy 2010

 

[Duff TV]

It's rumoured that the power brokers of some clubs are not happy with how football is being run in Tasmania.

Perhaps it's time for some to take action.

VOTE OF NO CONFIDENCE PERHAPS?

I would like to see that.......

.....Watch this space.

Standy by. The ugly brawl is about to take place.

Anyone of infuluence is welcome to call me personally and discuss this matter but if you are not going to show any ticker and contribute to this issue in a public way, head on, then please don't waste my time by being be a fence sitter.

My mobile is 0413 139 599.

This is not a joke.


Martin Duffy

 

[kenrosewall]

I think a lot of "power-brokers" in Tasmanian footy have been unhappy for sometime, but that always seems to be the case in anything in Tasmania.

They had their chance at the start of the year to put forward their case, so as far as I am concerned they should sit down and shut up for 5 years.

 

[madmug]

According to the paper,(I know its only the Muckery,But!) the AFL are helping Kingborough with $500,000 toward their new ground. Also helping Lauderdale with their $million plastic ground (&with players according to BF). This new league cant even pay a pittance to players for finals. They want to bring two more teams in!! What is going on? With $$$ being spent on council assets(Kingborough arent even in the TSL) & clubs struggling to find players, volunteers, sponsors, supporters & the crowds have fallen away, shouldnt money be spent in all clubs to help them attract, retain & reward the best players to improve the standard of the TSL?

 

[North Wester]

This might be old news i'm not to sure. I got told on the weekend that AFL Tas help contribute to the transfer of Kane Richter to Lauderdale. Lauderdale did not have the full $5000 and only had half, so AFL tas kicked in $1500 and $1000 worth of new footies to North Hobart. If this is correct will they be assisting any other club who can't afford transfers.

North Hobart are still waiting on the 3k that AFL Tas promised them. Thats right still waiting. How would Wade go if he had to have a lie detector test?