TV Rights - The difference between the bids

[WilliamPowell]

BTW - Where did you get your definitive figures?

Having thought that Tigger was Eddie McEverywhere in disguise I am now starting to believe that Tigger may actually be Damien Barrett from the HUN who seems to get all his info from Ch 9 and has been just as biased towards the 9 camps as Caro has supposedly been towards ch7.

But I agree Murray - I'd love to know where the figures come from

Perhaps the curveball isn't the cash, it's what would be best for the development of the game. That could well mean the AFL will forgo a few million pa in exchange for FTA live Friday/Saturday night games into NSW & Qld. 7/10 still have the USP to underbid 9 but still have a chance.

If the AFL were truly interested in the development of the game they would have taken the deal that offers the most FTA coverage (5/3 split over 4/4) at a price that is significantly higher than what is being paid now.

They would deal with all networks in a professional manner not favour one over another -

They would fix the blackspots (like they have promised for the last 4 years) giving back coverage to those who up until 2002 had live FTA Friday night games (hello to all BF users in Wagga Wagga).

The would ensure that FTA coverage on a Friday in Sydney and Brisbane would at least start before midnight - seeing the option of a 10.30pm would appear to be not a good thing

But unfortunately the AFL would appear not to be too interested in these things and the stakeholders it affects - their only concern was to get the most $$$ they could. So who really needs to care about development

 

[Rob]

Is a term of the first and last bid contract that its last bid must be accepted if it is equal to nines ? Unless it is then there is no law that says the highest bid must be accepted.

Without having read the contract, I gather so. Andy the cretin has stated many times that all 7 & 10 need to do is match the bid, and it's been mentioned in the media often enough to make it a fair assumption.

 

[skywalk750]

Please win 7 and 10, please

 

[SCRAY72]

So who is really throwing the last punch?

 

[1jasonoz]

So who is really throwing the last punch?

7 has the last rights on making a bid.

 

[jim boy]

Without having read the contract, I gather so. Andy the cretin has stated many times that all 7 & 10 need to do is match the bid, and it's been mentioned in the media often enough to make it a fair assumption.

Actually I think they have to outbid channel 9, even if it's only by $1.

Would be mildly amusing if Messrs 7 & 10 forgot this and missed out by a dollar.

 

[littleduck]

Actually I think they have to outbid channel 9, even if it's only by $1.

Would be mildly amusing if Messrs 7 & 10 forgot this and missed out by a dollar.

You're assuming that its solely about the financial/cash component of the bid and the other non-monetary stuff is irrelevant in comparing bids.

 

[SCRAY72]

7 has the last rights on making a bid.

Aware of that,just making reference to Eddie's "last punch/Broadmeadows" comment.

 

[deck]

Actually I think they have to outbid channel 9, even if it's only by $1.

Would be mildly amusing if Messrs 7 & 10 forgot this and missed out by a dollar.

7 & 10 must only match 9's bid in dollars and match coverage. Even if they better 9's coverage they still need to match the dollars or they miss out.

 

[happy hawker]

No matter what channel 7 offers the AFL has the last say. The only advantage 7 has is they know what the benchmark is. The AFL can reject 7 even if they offer more money with a similar broadcast deal. Unlikely but possible.

 

[1jasonoz]

No matter what channel 7 offers the AFL has the last say. The only advantage 7 has is they know what the benchmark is. The AFL can reject 7 even if they offer more money with a similar broadcast deal. Unlikely but possible.

If the AFL rejected the 7 & 10 bid which was worth more money and a similar broadcast deal, then they'd want to have very very good lawyers.

 

[Saintsfan]

Everyone is forgetting foxtel, they will ultimatley finance seven/tens bid. For example all seven/ten have to do for the extra money is charge that to foxtel for the permission to show afl, don't forget fox don't just show the three games a week they live off replaying every game every week. So for this right a meagre 160 to 200 mill is probably chicken feed, how much of foxs' money is included in PBL's bid?

Just to be as petty as nine they seven/ten team should announce their bid during Packers funeral

 

[littleduck]

7 & 10 must only match 9's bid in dollars and match coverage. Even if they better 9's coverage they still need to match the dollars or they miss out.

why.. surely a bid must be assessed holistically and not narrowly in terms of the cash component?

 

[teams]

Everyone is forgetting foxtel, they will ultimatley finance seven/tens bid. For example all seven/ten have to do for the extra money is charge that to foxtel for the permission to show afl, don't forget fox don't just show the three games a week they live off replaying every game every week. So for this right a meagre 160 to 200 mill is probably chicken feed, how much of foxs' money is included in PBL's bid?

Just to be as petty as nine they seven/ten team should announce their bid during Packers funeral

Plus at the moment fox footy doesn't seem to have total access to the seven match archives. Not sure how that works but a lot of ABC is shown. Full access to the seven archives would mean something to fox.

 

[Murray]

why.. surely a bid must be assessed holistically and not narrowly in terms of the cash component?

Nope, it has to match the 9 bid in every detail (or better it)

 

[teams]

Nope, it has to match the 9 bid in every detail (or better it)

Well is 5 fta - 3 pay better than the 4 - 4 split?

 

[eddiesmith]

7's share of TD is worth $200million, 7 want to sell it, AFL want to buy it, 187 million is the difference was it Tigger? Well that 200million from the Dome would cover it and then of course Foxtel will have to give them money as well and everything is fine at 7 and 10

 

[Axcellence]

Actually I think they have to outbid channel 9, even if it's only by $1.

Would be mildly amusing if Messrs 7 & 10 forgot this and missed out by a dollar.

Just not convinced...? Does 7 have right to bid one last time b4 AFL accepts or the right that if 7 comes up with a similar number; AFL has to accept?

 

[Murray]

Well is 5 fta - 3 pay better than the 4 - 4 split?

Depends on the coverage part of the equation I guess

 

[Murray]

Just not convinced...? Does 7 have right to bid one last time b4 AFL accepts or the right that if 7 comes up with a similar number; AFL has to accept?

Not sure what that means - try saying it differently

 

[littleduck]

Nope, it has to match the 9 bid in every detail (or better it)

My point is there might be some 'subjective' assessment of the bids to determine the 'best' bid...

 

[eddiesmith]

My point is there might be some 'subjective' assessment of the bids to determine the 'best' bid...

Not as far as the AFL is concerned, they have shown time and time again that all they care about is money, CH7 and CH10 could offer a dollar less and live into QLD and NSW every Friday night and CH9 would win

 

[ChrisFooty]

Cmon seven/ten.......do all us passionate AFL Fans proud and come up trumps.

 

[Crow-mosone]

My point is there might be some 'subjective' assessment of the bids to determine the 'best' bid...

of course there is.
the key determinant will be what's written in seven's last rights agreement, not what Murray "my mum was once a legal secretary" thinks.

I imagine that seven/ten will match, and the AFL/9 lawyers will come out and decide if their offer is really a match or not.

 

[Crow-mosone]

Everyone is forgetting foxtel, they will ultimatley finance seven/tens bid. For example all seven/ten have to do for the extra money is charge that to foxtel for the permission to show afl, don't forget fox don't just show the three games a week they live off replaying every game every week. So for this right a meagre 160 to 200 mill is probably chicken feed, how much of foxs' money is included in PBL's bid?

Just to be as petty as nine they seven/ten team should announce their bid during Packers funeral

exactly right.

Foxtel really don't care that much who wins, they MUST have coverage to sell their own product.