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TheGreatBarryB said:
Why? PL puts the coverage together
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It'd be a lot more expensive, but I do like the idea of a potential FTA game and consolidating CL/Europa/PL rights.
 
My annoyance with Stan is you have to sign up for their 'regular' package and only then can you add on Sport.

Optus, Kayo you only have to sign up for sport.
Similarly if you have no interest in sport there is Binge, Britbox etc.

Foxtel had a drop off in subscribers so they offered 'tailored' packages such as Kayo & Binge.

I currently happily subscribe to Bein, Kayo and Optus because they offer what I want to watch (and handily I'm also with Optus as my telco).

If I had to subscribe to Stan's basic package to watch PL/FA Cup I'll get my canoe out.
 

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With the PL bidding a closed process one has to wonder why all of these companies didn't think of working together to keep the bidding down.


Reality is PL is screened during off peak times so advertising revenue is always going to be poor. This should be reflected in the TV rights deal.


Sounds like Optus are over it and are looking to move on. Dazn buying them out could be a good thing as it would go to Kayo in that case.
 
Zidane98 said:
With the PL bidding a closed process one has to wonder why all of these companies didn't think of working together to keep the bidding down.


Reality is PL is screened during off peak times so advertising revenue is always going to be poor. This should be reflected in the TV rights deal.


Sounds like Optus are over it and are looking to move on. Dazn buying them out could be a good thing as it would go to Kayo in that case.
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I assume that would be illegal.
 
Zidane98 said:
With the PL bidding a closed process one has to wonder why all of these companies didn't think of working together to keep the bidding down.
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Wouldn't they want other companies paying as much as possible so then they have less of a budget for other stuff?
 
hairy biker said:
www.accc.gov.au

Cartels

A cartel exists when businesses agree to act together instead of competing with each other. It’s illegal for businesses to agree to act together in a cartel instead of competing.
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Doesn't apply in the scenario of competing companies working together to keep tv rights costs down. Cartel activity is all about colluding to keep pricing of goods and / or services artificially high. It does not relate to purchasing of goods and / or services at all. Businesses work together all the time to keep purchasing costs lower.
 

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Zidane98 said:
That only applies to supply of goods and services.
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You've turned into a troll over the last few weeks, I don't think you're this stupid.
 
Jatz said:
How is this not a service?
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You do understand the difference between businesses working together to keep costs of purchasing goods & services down vs business colluding in keeping costs supplying goods & services high yeah?


The first is normal business practice. The second is illegal.
 
Zidane98 said:
You do understand the difference between businesses working together to keep costs of purchasing goods & services down vs business colluding in keeping costs supplying goods & services high yeah?


The first is normal business practice. The second is illegal.
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You say that but if it was so obvious (as you're enjoying making out), why would that not have happened?

But no, collusion works both ways I believe. Happy for someone to prove me wrong there.
 
Jatz said:
You say that but if it was so obvious (as you're enjoying making out), why would that not have happened?

But no, collusion works both ways I believe. Happy for someone to prove me wrong there.
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It doesn't. Insurance companies do it all the time with their underwriting and reinsurance practices. Hell, I do it in my role as purchasing manager for my company, I'll work with other companies to purchase product on a larger scale at a lower price. This is completely normal business practice.

You can read about it here if you want, collusion laws are all about keeping pricing artificially high at the expense of the consumer for goods and services.

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Competition and anti-competitive behaviour

Competition leads to lower prices, more choice and better products and services. The Competition and Consumer Act 2010 bans business behaviours that damage competition.
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I'm not sure why there isn't more collaboration between providers here, that's a question only they can answer. If I were them I would work out a way to divvy up the rights in a beneficial way to all providers while keeping their costs as low as possible for TV rights purchases.

IMO the only reason they aren't doing it yet is they all still want to get one up over each other at this stage still.


That could be changing with reports that Optus is happy to work with other providers to offload EPL.
 
hairy biker said:
My annoyance with Stan is you have to sign up for their 'regular' package and only then can you add on Sport.

Optus, Kayo you only have to sign up for sport.
Similarly if you have no interest in sport there is Binge, Britbox etc.

Foxtel had a drop off in subscribers so they offered 'tailored' packages such as Kayo & Binge.

I currently happily subscribe to Bein, Kayo and Optus because they offer what I want to watch (and handily I'm also with Optus as my telco).

If I had to subscribe to Stan's basic package to watch PL/FA Cup I'll get my canoe out.
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Interestingly the kayo freebies and content that is shared with fta (seven mainly) is now also on binge
 
Consolidation of rights IMO should be:

Bein European Leagues / Cups (Ligue 1, Bundesliga, La Liga, Serie A, SPL) + Championship + League 1, MLS.

PL bundled with A-League, FFA Cup, AFC competitions & FA Cup / Carabao Cup, J-League, K-League.

Lastly, all UEFA completions & club WC.bundled together.


If I were in charge of divvying up the rights into 3 packages that's how I would go about it.
 
What's the go multiple devices on Optus?

I just read the t&c's and it seems to claim only one device can view at a time which I didn't think was the case at all considering the price of the subscription.

However have been sharing with a mate and we've never had issues both watching simultaneously - yet.

Anyone else had issues with this?
 

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