Coach Tyson Goldsack - Defensive Coach

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Bassett was bad, but Goldsack would be out of his depth coaching at under 11 level.

Only need to hear him speak to realise how underwhelming his footy knowledge is, let alone his motivation skills. One of the oddest appointments and internal promotions we’ve had. The fact we have him, Lobbe, Kelly and Hartlett all at once is the definition of complete, complicit self-sabotage.

Bassset is kind of scapegoated because him joining Port coincided with the change of gameplan and introduction to the high press structure that we have seen a decade later.

That said, there might be something as if seems he cannot land another AFL job.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Bassett was bad, but Goldsack would be out of his depth coaching at under 11 level.

Only need to hear him speak to realise how underwhelming his footy knowledge is, let alone his motivation skills. One of the oddest appointments and internal promotions we’ve had. The fact we have him, Lobbe, Kelly and Hartlett all at once is the definition of complete, complicit self-sabotage.

Mind you, last season he coached this Magpies side into finals.

Not all footy people sound like geniuses but they can be good at coaching.

 

[PJ Power]

Bassett was at the club a long time. He stuffed our forward line, and did much worse than Montgomery as a defensive coach too.

 

[PJ Power]

Mind you, last season he coached this Magpies side into finals.

Not all footy people sound like geniuses but they can be good at coaching.

How this Maggies side got to the finals last year is a mystery. But I still think Goldsack is a poor AFL defensive coach.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Bassett's problem was his defensive structure required 16 players and Ken took them all away for high press.

 

[TazD]

Tyson's greatest crime? Signing up to be a coach in the waning Hinkley years. Honestly kinda feel bad for him.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

How this Maggies side got to the finals last year is a mystery. But I still think Goldsack is a poor AFL defensive coach.

He's hung out to dry by Ken's 2010s gameplan which empties the backline for a high press that without Powell-Pepper, teams waltz away from.

 

[PJ Power]

He's hung out to dry by Ken's 2010s gameplan which empties the backline for a high press that without Powell-Pepper, teams waltz away from.

That and Aliir double fisting instead of chest marking, and closing his eyes when “spoiling” Cam Rayner.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Mind you, last season he coached this Magpies side into finals.

Not all footy people sound like geniuses but they can be good at coaching.

Name one long term successful coach in the professional era that sounded like Ken?

Scott - No
Thompson - No
Clarko - No
Hardwick - No
Longmire - No

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[Ford Fairlane]

Name one long term successful coach in the professional era that sounded like Ken?

Scott - No
Thompson - No
Clarko - No
Hardwick - No
Longmire - No

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But I wasn't talking about Ken. Most of those guys don't sound like geniuses either, but they have earned respect from their success. But a couple have some deep personal flaws that get overlooked because, successful sportsperson.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

That and Aliir double fisting instead of chest marking, and closing his eyes when “spoiling” Cam Rayner.

Oh my, some of our 'defending' yesterday in particular.

That was very kind of you to call that attempt a spoil, even with the air quotes

 

[The Hobo]

Lemmings at it again
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Spot on. Surprised its taken so long for the media to point this out, its been going on for ages.

I also think it's probably not Goldsacks fault, it's the over arching team directive it would seem.

It's either the team directive, or we've drafted the dumbest players in the AFL

 

[The Hobo]

Dermie nails it here on his opinion around Esava. Not the sharpest tool in the shed when it comes to defending.

I think we NEED to tell Esava that his role is to defend his man. Don't worry about intercepting, don't worry about pushing up, just stop your man.

BZT, same - but he can have a bit of leg rope to help out if needed (he has more footy IQ)

Aliir is the best reader we have, and he's the one that needs to be coming across and helping when needed.

I know McKenzie is injured, but I think we're lacking his organisation in the backline, his composure and his experience. We have always looked lost when he's not playing, and it's still showing. I don't know if he's still got the legs, but i'd be playing him in the Burton role.

 

[TeeKray]

I know McKenzie is injured, but I think we're lacking his organisation in the backline, his composure and his experience. We have always looked lost when he's not playing, and it's still showing. I don't know if he's still got the legs, but i'd be playing him in the Burton role.

This is so obvious as to almost go without saying and yet ...

 

[RossFC]

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

In post 205 of this thread I said if Goldsack brings a Mick Malthouse defensive mindset and set up to our defence, then it will be a good appointment.

Since the Brisbane game shellacking, 8 games ago, our defence has played with a Malthouse type stinginess.

Has helped that we have moved Esava out of there and our mids have played better, and our stupid high high press hasn't been as high, but our defence has tightened up.

Our 2nd halves but mainly our last quarters the last 5 games we have given the oppo very little opportunities to score.

vs Richmond 2nd half them 5.3 vs us 9.12 last quarter 0.1 v us 4.8
vs Carlton... 2nd half 1.5 vs 7.8 last quarter 0.3 v us 4.3
vs Sydney... 2nd half 4.3 vs 9.8 last quarter 2.2 v us 5.7
vs Melbourn 2nd half 3.4 vs 7.3 last quarter 1.4 v us 2.3
vs Adelaide. 2nd half 2.4 vs 7.5 last quarter 2.0 v us 5.2

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The stingy defence continued last night.

2nd half them 2 5 v 6.6 us and last quarter 1.2 v vs 3.1.

Despite no Houston, Farrell off for 1.5 quarters and Aliir missing for 20 minutes as they had to work on his rolled ankle.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Something's changed Lieutenant Dan!

 

[PJ Power]

The stingy defence continued last night.

2nd half them 2 5 v 6.6 us and last quarter 1.2 v vs 3.1.

Despite no Houston, Farrell off for 1.5 quarters and Aliir missing for 20 minutes as they had to work on his rolled ankle.

Something definitely has changed, both for the defensive group as a whole and the individuals within it.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Quick simple maths:

Miles Bergman moved back to the backlines in R17

Before R17: Points against 1190 / Games 14 / Average 85 points conceded/game
R17 and After: Points against 562 / Games 9 / Average 62 points conceded/game

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Line up in Rd 15 Brisbane game

Farrell Zerk-Thatcher Aliir
Bergman Ratugolea Houston
on the bench Evans Sinn

Beat Saints by 2 pts, beat Bulldogs by 48pts, lose to GC by 14pts GC kick 14.12

Rd 19 Richmond game, start of stinginess and last 6 wins

Williams Zerk-Thatcher Aliir
Bergman Ratugolea Houston
on the bench Evans

Rd 20 Carlton - The Rat gets moved to CHF and Bergman plays 3rd tall and Jones is back to help him

Bergman Zerk-Thatcher Evans
Farrell ,,,,,,,,,,,,Aliir..... Houston
on the bench Jones

Quentin Narkle was the sub for all 3 games above.

 

[TazD]

Is this guy still the devil or is he cool now?

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Is this guy still the devil or is he cool now?

He's great.

One of the few cases of internal promotion working at the club right now.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

It's not just Goldsack or individual player changes, it's across the ground defence. The high press was costing us so many coast to coast Joe the Goose goals, so we've pulled it back and apply much better pressure across all the three sectors of the ground.

Teams really have to take it on against us and that leads to turnovers and scoring opportunities the other way. Saw it last week with the crows and Freo last night, they could get the ball to their half back line, then had to stop because the options just weren't there.

But while talking about individuals, Zerk-Thatcher has been terrific this year. Gets in with the spoil, and can take a decent contested mark. He's a bit Brian Lake

Brian Lake

Age

42

Ht

195cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.7

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

6.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

163.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

4.6

1star

K

2.6

1star

HB

2.0

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

0.6

3star

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[SureBuddy]

This is all on Bergmam. The guy is an absolute star back there. Completely changed our structure and we are now benefiting massively. He is literally our Tom Stewart now.
He will also get Cameron next week and slaughter him as well.