lol at comparing Krezja to Lyon. 8 wickets or not in India he was an atrocious bowler.
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Hudu Gurusingha
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So what does that make Lyon?
He is no better than Hauritz - stats back that up.
And a greater liability with the bat and in the field.
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Absolutely agree.
It is a great stat, but I'd say that it means Hauritz is rated too lowly, rather than Lyon too highly.
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Hence my opinion that he is over rated (and shit).
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How many spinners took more wickets in test cricket than Lyon last year?
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You've been spoiled by Warne mate, before he came along spinners in Australia were generally unprepossessing sorts who held up an end, and got some wickets from time to time, Warney changed all that. You could argue we're back to the usual status quo with regard to spinners in this country.
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Overrated and shit are not the same thing, just like unpopular and silly aren't the same thing.
Not sure how he's overrated- I don't think anyone sees him as more than a solid bowler.
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If you ever want to sit me down and explain it let me know.
Like it or not he's the best we have. There is a need to play a spinner in most test. We've been spoiled for choice over the years with some of the greats ( grimmett, o'rielly,benaud, warne) as well as very good ones (Mailey, Johnson, May, mallet). You can't expect to consistently churn out champions and Lyon is better than serviceable especially considering the quicks australia has at it's disposal. He's still relatively young and will continue to mature.
Fwiw though I agree with you on hauritz, was given a poor run and in the end dropped for a terrible bowler ( Doherty). Bit more defensive than Lyon but was a better bat consistently contributing handy runs at 9.
If you ever want to sit me down and explain it let me know.
I watched Nathan Hauritz consistently miss the rough at the SCG, which was the size of an open cut mine, while trying to bowl out 9,10, Jack against the Saffers when Smith broke his hand and they almost saved it. He was rubbish and that should have been the end of him - he was never going to get better conditions and completely failed to use them. Agree that those couple who followed him were no better though.
At least Lyon can hit it, and turn it when he does. I also believe Lyon is bowling a bit "smarter" these days, and that won't be real popular around here I reckon.
eth-dog
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Wasn't that Hogg?
Hogg played against India, not South Africa.
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Why the f*(& doesn't Lyon ever bowl over the wicket. My knowledge is sparse so a serious question. What his obsession with wasting valuable time and overs trying to turn it half a mile back when he could go conventional and open up more modes of dismissal.
oh man i forgot about hogg's test return. about as successful as his T20 WC appearances (bowling-wise, anyway)
He did make Ganguly his bunny though.
he was dropped for shaun tait, the poor guy. no human deserves that
That's right, they dropped him in Perth (imagine that) because they thought the pitch would be so fast they needed four pace bowlers, only it turned out to be one of those not-fast pitches we had at the WACA back then and India won.
Hence why I said 'my personal experience'. 99 times out of 100 may have been the other way round. Need to remember though that this was an official Blues function organised by their major sponsor the Nsw roads and maritime services authority. Part of being a professional is that you support the sponsors and keep a smile on your face whether you want to be there or not.
I really didnt expect anything of anyone but Warner in particular was brilliant. All I see is negatives about the bloke, but in my tiny personal experience he was a true pro who got a fan for life in my boy
This alone qualifies him for a knighthood IMHO.
Did you watch the Adelaide Test?
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The light up bails in the big bash are a good addition to cricket and are useful for stumpings and run outs.
They'd be even more useful if they were able to only lighten up after, you know, the bails have been actually been dislodged
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