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for anyone interested in the thoughts of an ex Snr ASIO employee who is still very "'current" with their info, along with an experienced Snr DFAT embassy official who has recently returned from 3 years in one of the most globally important destinations feel free to read on:

- they are FN petrified about what Trump means for the geo-political world over coming years. Ukraine surrenders as little Trump has already announced to the world that "allowance is about to be cut" (a seriously shameful act in itself which I am sure many have condemned) to then an emboldened China seeing NATO fall apart, the US turning isolationist and China thinking what would we like first. And the answer obviously is Taiwan. Like who is going to save them right? The real question comes a few years down the track of who else would they like and I suppose you can try and work out what country is large, has an abundance of resources with minerals and friendly to agriculture

The US century is likely to crumble in the next 4 years as China overtakes the US economically, politically and military wise.

Not my words but people that actually know their shit and would completely wipe the floor with anyone on these forums.

Financial Review today - very good article but with recent copyright warnings about posting whole articles this is just the first 2 paragraphs

https://www.afr.com/world/north-ame...re-about-to-get-a-major-boost-20241119-p5krp2 recent warnings re copyright I am only posting a smidgen of the article and the first 2 paragraphs

Trump’s foreign enemies are about to get a major boost

The president-elect is threatening to gut the institutions that make America great, which can only benefit Russia and China. We all know the slogan. But Donald Trump will not make America great again by waging war on his domestic enemies. Instead Trump’s vengeance campaign threatens the real foundations of American greatness.

The American military, the country’s leading universities, the Federal Reserve, the justice system, the free press, the scientific establishment, even the health of American citizens are all at risk. The president-elect has nominated vengeful crackpots to key positions and promised to let people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr “go wild”. The damage that Trump’s policies could inflict on America will delight the country’s real enemies in Moscow and Beijing. They know from their own histories that when a nation turns on itself, its international power can collapse.
 
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Just in the removal of illegal immigrants. You described them as a “cheap and abundant labour source”. That sounds an awful lot like you’re advocating for them to be taken advantage of and underpaid. Shouldn’t a first world economy be protecting the rights of all workers? What’s the cost of these people being paid outside of the taxation system and the risks to them in terms of injury and illness?

Surely the official policy needs to be that one way or another the illegal immigrants need to be identified and either bought into the system or sent home. I know that with land borders it’s a bigger task than here, but the aspiration shouldn’t be any different.
no mate I didnt say anything of the sort of underpaying. To be clear its they take the LOWEST paid jobs - the minimum wage jobs - and not sure what words I used to infer I endorse underpaying but its 100% not the case.

Farming suicide rates are very high in many parts of the world due to the volatile (and increasingly so with more natural disasters occuring) and the impact it can have on their financial viability. Lets hope taking out a major source of their labour force doesnt increase stress and financial strain on these farmers as that would be a horrible situation I am sure we all agree on
 
Lol..yes, we can imagine



I can kind of understand those extreme views, there’s a lot of crazy in the world. What I’ll never understand is why they think it’s good idea to film themselves being insane and then put it on social media.
 

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You are already a joke mate. Nothing you say gets taken seriously. No skin in the game, you criticise shit you have no clue about but watched fox on YouTube. Like get some credibility. You only like Gaetz appointment because it's a Trump nomination. Your heads so far up Trump's arse you don't even give a shit about anything he does let alone the people he hurts. Why? Because you are so ****ing up yourself you only care when it affects you.

Say what you want about me but at least i care about others and I have skin in the game. So next time you think it's a big ****ing joke. Just think about this.



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More Americans wanted Trump elected than Harris. It’s weird how your kind is all worried about the people who voted Harris not getting what they want but would simply laugh at Trump voters if roles were reversed. You’re basically a religious zealot. One of the funnier thing your congregation keeps deluding itself about is all these masses of voters that will or already regret their vote. It’s the funniest of your many coping mechanisms.
 
The issue is CTID thinks it's a ****ing joke. Real people live in the USA and I don't think he understands this.

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Real people who voted for Trump in numbers greater than Harris. Don’t you like democracy, you think your feelings and those of the Kamala voters need to carry more weight?
 
Imagine thinking you are right and using your support for Trump as your intelligence barometer.

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Imagine believing you knew the result of the election prior to it occurring and had a long list of absolute facts as to why it was going to a Harris domination. Imagine liking a post where some internet dimwit thanks you for your intelligent pre-election analysis. I guess that’s how you calibrate your intelligence barometer, how many echo chamber lefties think I’m smart because I keep posting garbage that they want to hear as if it’s fact.
 
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Imagine thinking a party full of convicted felons and sexual assault perpetrators and pedophiles are the party of law and order. This gets better and better.

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Genuine question, how many are there actually? “Full of” is a fairly high bar, be interesting to see if this was just another emotional outburst or whether there’s some truth to it.
 
Just in the removal of illegal immigrants. You described them as a “cheap and abundant labour source”. That sounds an awful lot like you’re advocating for them to be taken advantage of and underpaid. Shouldn’t a first world economy be protecting the rights of all workers? What’s the cost of these people being paid outside of the taxation system and the risks to them in terms of injury and illness?

Surely the official policy needs to be that one way or another the illegal immigrants need to be identified and either bought into the system or sent home. I know that with land borders it’s a bigger task than here, but the aspiration shouldn’t be any different.
mate, just rereading my message again what could POSSIBLY make you and Eaglebloy assume I am talking about underpaying people and not protecting their rights? Please point me towards ANYTHING I have EVER said that would support that

Its just a complete and utter lie and made up shit and actually embarrassing that you would firstly try that on and secondly not apologise or retract your statement when I immediately rebuffed it
 
mate, just rereading my message again what could POSSIBLY make you and Eaglebloy assume I am talking about underpaying people and not protecting their rights? Please point me towards ANYTHING I have EVER said that would support that

Its just a complete and utter lie and made up shit and actually embarrassing that you would firstly try that on and secondly not apologise or retract your statement when I immediately rebuffed it
Democrat House and Senate have said the reason for migrants is cheap labour many times. Cheap labour does not mean award minimum. It means below.
350k missing children . Where did they go. No Dems are asking where they are. Cheap labour , sex trafficking maybe.
NGO's and cartels are making a killing with illegals.
 
Democrat House and Senate have said the reason for migrants is cheap labour many times. Cheap labour does not mean award minimum. It means below.
350k missing children . Where did they go. No Dems are asking where they are. Cheap labour , sex trafficking maybe.
NGO's and cartels are making a killing with illegals.
OK but I neither meant 'missing children' or 'below minimum wages' OR expressed such things. Someone put words into my mouth and then refused to withdraw them or apologise when called out.

Just a different way of treating people with respect to my code of conduct in life
 
OK but I neither meant 'missing children' or 'below minimum wages' OR expressed such things. Someone put words into my mouth and then refused to withdraw them or apologise when called out.

Just a different way of treating people with respect to my code of conduct in life
Your statement is BS. You don't mean that.

You are asking for slave labour. If these people entered the country illegally, they need to be assessed. Trump will not deport all of them. Have a close look and read of his words not just what the lefty media puts out there. Thats just Lefty BS.

There are already over 1m that have not met the criteria according to judges and the Dems refuse to let the leave.
Trump/Homan have said he will start with the criminals. They were let into the country unvetted.
 

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Your statement is BS. You don't mean that.

You are asking for slave labour. If these people entered the country illegally, they need to be assessed. Trump will not deport all of them. Have a close look and read of his words not just what the lefty media puts out there. Thats just Lefty BS.

There are already over 1m that have not met the criteria according to judges and the Dems refuse to let the leave.
Trump/Homan have said he will start with the criminals. They were let into the country unvetted.
show me where I am asking for slave labour? I cant believe I am wasting my time even discussing this shit with you

But show me the above or just dont bother responding for both our sakes
 
for anyone interested in the thoughts of an ex Snr ASIO employee who is still very "'current" with their info, along with an experienced Snr DFAT embassy official who has recently returned from 3 years in one of the most globally important destinations feel free to read on:

- they are FN petrified about what Trump means for the geo-political world over coming years. Ukraine surrenders as little Trump has already announced to the world that "allowance is about to be cut" (a seriously shameful act in itself which I am sure many have condemned) to then an emboldened China seeing NATO fall apart, the US turning isolationist and China thinking what would we like first. And the answer obviously is Taiwan. Like who is going to save them right? The real question comes a few years down the track of who else would they like and I suppose you can try and work out what country is large, has an abundance of resources with minerals and friendly to agriculture

The US century is likely to crumble in the next 4 years as China overtakes the US economically, politically and military wise.

Not my words but people that actually know their shit and would completely wipe the floor with anyone on these forums.

Financial Review today - very good article but with recent copyright warnings about posting whole articles this is just the first 2 paragraphs

https://www.afr.com/world/north-ame...re-about-to-get-a-major-boost-20241119-p5krp2 recent warnings re copyright I am only posting a smidgen of the article and the first 2 paragraphs

Trump’s foreign enemies are about to get a major boost

The president-elect is threatening to gut the institutions that make America great, which can only benefit Russia and China. We all know the slogan. But Donald Trump will not make America great again by waging war on his domestic enemies. Instead Trump’s vengeance campaign threatens the real foundations of American greatness.

The American military, the country’s leading universities, the Federal Reserve, the justice system, the free press, the scientific establishment, even the health of American citizens are all at risk. The president-elect has nominated vengeful crackpots to key positions and promised to let people like Robert F. Kennedy Jr “go wild”. The damage that Trump’s policies could inflict on America will delight the country’s real enemies in Moscow and Beijing. They know from their own histories that when a nation turns on itself, its international power can collapse.
This is brilliant. Many are going to get a good laugh out of this.

Cult.
 
This is brilliant. Many are going to get a good laugh out of this.

Cult.
and you wonder why you dont get balanced debates on this forum. i have come on in a respectful manner and tried to engage in an intelligent matter re things i am aware of and specialised my career in over 30 years (taxes, macro economics) and provided expert views on things I am not an expert on but if you dont know what ASIO is (which I expect based on the level of your historical posting) and similar then I dont know what to say to you

please dont bother responding as i wont be able to see your post. wishing you a happy, successful and fulfilling life mate
 
Mission accomplished if this is happening.

The abuse of power within the DOJ and FBI has eroded trust in America’s justice system.



THIS - the democrats had complete disregard for all the norms, ignored the laws and ran roughshot over anyone that pushed back. They set the rules and now Trump gets to play by the same ones the dems did(n't)

 
THIS - the democrats had complete disregard for all the norms, ignored the laws and ran roughshot over anyone that pushed back. They set the rules and now Trump gets to play by the same ones the dems did(n't)


Trump has the power to adjourn the senate for 10 days,then merely appoint anyone he wants without confirmation. will get his way. Gaetz is what Biden wanted Jack Smith to be.
If that doesnt work.
Trump has the power to adjourn the senate for 10 days ,then merely appoint anyone he wants without confirmation.

Obama did similar.
 
Translation: our ratings are tanking
I like that Scott Jennings guy. CNN must be regrettinng hiring him because he calls it as he sees it.

I have read that the owner of the LA Times may be hiring him as an editor to bring reason back to a failing "commie" publication.
 

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