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Seriously undermining the democratic process….by winning a democratic election.
Lmao.
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Seriously undermining the democratic process….by winning a democratic election.
Lmao.
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That so accurately describes every single bog-standard health bureaucrat in charge of this nation’s Covid response.
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The Secret Service allowed a drone to fly over Trumps rally a Butler without question.
Maybe just another practice run before the next attempt
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My main contention is it is not accurate to call yourself silenced while meeting with government officials like Alex Azar, being brought on board to advise Ron DeSantis, and having yourself and your ideas funded and pushed by wealthy backers.
There are people that are actually silenced but it's not the guys you see going on Joe Rogan and Fox news to complain about it.
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Why would the Crooked Joe Biden Team need to spend so much ?
OpenTheBooks examined spending dating back to fiscal 2017, which roughly coincides with the start of Mr. Trump’s first term in office.
Misinformation spending soared in 2021, when Mr. Biden took office, with $126 million spent — chiefly on pandemic-related projects. It has steadily dropped but totaled $18 million in the just-ended fiscal 2024.
Most of the COVID-19 spending went to Health and Human Services Department projects to boost vaccine use and other government-urged measures for racial and ethnic minorities. That includes “evidence-based interventions to address vaccine misinformation.”
HHS also authorized grants that paid for outfits to monitor social media for vaccine and other medical information contradicting the department’s preferred narratives.
www.wmal.com
Biden spent big to fight contrary narratives; ‘misinformation’ on virus, climate
The massive 'misinformation' effort by the Biden-Harris White House was worse than most people realize. It reached throughout the administration and cost at least $267 million.OpenTheBooks examined spending dating back to fiscal 2017, which roughly coincides with the start of Mr. Trump’s first term in office.
Misinformation spending soared in 2021, when Mr. Biden took office, with $126 million spent — chiefly on pandemic-related projects. It has steadily dropped but totaled $18 million in the just-ended fiscal 2024.
Most of the COVID-19 spending went to Health and Human Services Department projects to boost vaccine use and other government-urged measures for racial and ethnic minorities. That includes “evidence-based interventions to address vaccine misinformation.”
HHS also authorized grants that paid for outfits to monitor social media for vaccine and other medical information contradicting the department’s preferred narratives.
Biden spent big to fight contrary narratives; ‘misinformation’ on virus, climate
The Biden administration has spent more than a quarter of a billion dollars to study and police “misinformation,” according to a report released Friday. OpenTheBooks, a spending watchdog, said the federal government has spent $267 million since 2021 on contracts and research grants that include the
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Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds
The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.
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Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds
The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.
www.nbcnews.com
The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.
Immunity acquired from a Covid infection provides strong, lasting protection against the most severe outcomes of the illness, according to research published Thursday in The Lancet — protection, experts say, that’s on par with what’s provided through two doses of an mRNA vaccine
Past Covid infection as protective as vaccination against severe illness and death, study finds
The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.
The immunity generated from an infection was found to be “at least as high, if not higher” than that provided by two doses of an mRNA vaccine.
Immunity acquired from a Covid infection provides strong, lasting protection against the most severe outcomes of the illness, according to research published Thursday in The Lancet — protection, experts say, that’s on par with what’s provided through two doses of an mRNA vaccine
Yes it provided protection, not enough for herd immunity even with vaccines, as seen by the fact that nowhere achieved herd immunity despite these people claiming it had been achieved or was just around the corner.
newsGP - Does any chance of herd immunity from COVID exist?
Herd immunity was sold as our path out of the pandemic. Associate Professor Hassan Valley explains why nobody is talking about it anymore.
www1.racgp.org.au
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Please. Of course they were silenced.
If those voices were cutting through, these things would’ve been addressed as they were happening. But they weren’t.
The few brave experts who were pointing out these things were dismissed, ridiculed and labelled conspiracy theorists.
Trust is broken, and that’s the most damaging COVID legacy
The year-long COVID inquiry found missteps in a once-in-a-century pandemic have undermined trust in vaccines, science and government policy.
The most disturbing finding from the year-long COVID inquiry released on Tuesday is that trust among the Australian community has been eroded.
It is so broken that the inquiry’s surveys, from June this year, found one in five people would not get a vaccine offered by the government in a future health emergency. Only three in 10 had high trust in the federal government to have done the right thing at the height of the pandemic.
This will be its most damaging legacy.
Transparency is another: when asking people to accept significant curbs to their freedom, finances, social lives and mental health, governments must publish their reasons and supporting advice.
Responses should also evolve according to evidence. Instead, some measures were as blunt and restrictive 18 months after their initial implementation.
The next government to face a major health crisis will inherit a difficult predicament. “Many of the measures taken during COVID‑19 are unlikely to be accepted by the population again,” the report found.
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One thing that I don't recall being reported were the mass deaths (in the context of deaths per capita of population) in places like India, Pakistan, African nations etc where there would have been no social distancing, masking (or very little) and access to vaccines was few and far between.Yes it provided protection, not enough for herd immunity even with vaccines, as seen by the fact that nowhere achieved herd immunity despite these people claiming it had been achieved or was just around the corner.
newsGP - Does any chance of herd immunity from COVID exist?
Herd immunity was sold as our path out of the pandemic. Associate Professor Hassan Valley explains why nobody is talking about it anymore.www1.racgp.org.au
How could that possibly be if there was not herd immunity?
India for example has a population closing in on 2 Billion people and yet had 500K deaths - 379/million population in an overcrowded majority 3rd world country.
The states where everything was shut down, masking was everywhere, social distancing was everywhere and access to vaccines was as good as any country in the world had 3642 deaths / million people - close to 10 x the deaths per capita as India
Coronavirus Update (Live): 128,239,149 Cases and 2,804,346 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer
Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...
Is your argument that they were silenced or that they weren't given enough power? I would argue they had too much power and the people that dismissed them turned out to be correct.
Obviously the pandemic could have been handled better, transparency is always good, public messaging was confusing at times, responses should be evidence based, all good. And I'm fine with people being politically against prevention measures like the lockdowns or school closures. They have negative impacts, they infringe on civil liberties. It's fine to say you're against these things.
I think you just don't get to live in a fantasy where we could have just done nothing and everything turned out to be ok, if you want to argue those measures should not have been in place you have to also accept the large number of preventable deaths that would have come with that, including deaths of children.
I'd also suggest some of the loss of confidence in government and vaccines comes from the people spreading anti-vaccine and COVID minimising information which turned out to be incorrect but many bought into. People like Bhattacharya for example.
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Yeah look I just can’t take this conversation seriously when you live in this sort of alternate reality.
The physical and mental health & wellbeing of children was sacrificed en masse during Covid to protect 80 year olds.
That was one of the specific points of feedback that came out of the inquiry.
And it was a point that was obvious all the way through, to anyone with two brain cells to rub together.
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A CNN poll 
When this type of thinking was put into action however
Child Covid deaths more than doubled in Florida as kids returned to the classroom
“We're all worried because we're not sure what's going to happen in the future.”
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When this type of thinking was put into action however
Child Covid deaths more than doubled in Florida as kids returned to the classroom
“We're all worried because we're not sure what's going to happen in the future.”www.politico.com
Yeah, we know how those “statistics” work.
Go to hospital with a major illness or injury. Test positive for Covid….
The reality is the number of those kids that actually died because of Covid would be close to zero.
I’m not reading that rubbish article but I bet somewhere in there it says those kids had serious illnesses.
We knew from the very beginning that this disease was less dangerous to kids than the flu. At worst on a par.
There was no reason to destroy two years of their education, mask them, lock them inside and force an experimental jab on them. None whatsoever.
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There's a lot of celebrating events that are yet to happen. I guess whatever helps these crazies get through the day.
It does mention this, one of the most common underlying medical conditions being obesity. Most obese children are unlikely to pass away anytime soon unless something like COVID contributes to it. Plenty may be classified as vulnerable or with another underlying condition but this does not mean they are likely to die any time soon unless something like COVID comes along as well.
COVID is more dangerous to children than flu.
Assessment of COVID-19 as the Underlying Cause of Death Among Children and Young People Aged 0 to 19 Years in the US - PMC
Where does COVID-19 rank as an underlying cause of death for children and young people aged 0 to 19 years in the US? Among children and young people aged 0 to 19 years in the US, COVID-19 ranked eighth among all causes of deaths, fifth in ...
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I also think it is bad for children's development when their teachers die.
15 Miami-Dade Public School Staff Members Die Of COVID In Just 10 Days
"It's a tremendous loss," said one education official of the death of a 30-year teacher.
Over 1,000 Educators Died From COVID. Here's the Story of One
Over two and a half years, we documented more than 1,300 deaths of educators who died from COVID.
www.edweek.org
Coronavirus News: 30 teachers among 74 DOE employees to die of COVID-19
The New York City Department of Education said it has now lost 74 employees to COVID-19 -- including teachers, staffers in food services, school aides and a computer technology specialist.
Or when their parents or grandparents die from COVID.
More than 140,000 U.S. children lost a primary or secondary caregiver due to the COVID-19 pandemic
New study highlights stark disparities in caregiver deaths by race and ethnicity, calls for urgent public health response.
COVID deaths: more than 10 million children lost a parent or carer
The consequences of losing a parent can be profound, but the right support can reduce the impact.
www.nature.com
Or when they are impacted by non-death related impacts of Covid.
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How is this demented woke **** still in power.
Well, come October 2025 he'll be out on his ar$e, and in a big way, according to the polls. It is a mystery how he has survived this long, I don't know enough about Canuck politics to know how much of that is down to a poor quality opposition.
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It went bluer?
Obviously not very good at maths.
2020 Biden 55.40% Trump 41.90% Difference 13.5%
2024 Harris 54.16% Trump 43.17% Difference 10.99%
Think a reduction of 2.51% suggests it got a bit redder, not much, but it didn’t get bluer.
More misinformation - how surprising
.And you accept anything without bothering to check.
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Pete only deals in faux factsWhen this type of thinking was put into action however
Child Covid deaths more than doubled in Florida as kids returned to the classroom
“We're all worried because we're not sure what's going to happen in the future.”
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And all those children orphaned by covid 19It does mention this, one of the most common underlying medical conditions being obesity. Most obese children are unlikely to pass away anytime soon unless something like COVID contributes to it. Plenty may be classified as vulnerable or with another underlying condition but this does not mean they are likely to die any time soon unless something like COVID comes along as well.
COVID is more dangerous to children than flu.
Assessment of COVID-19 as the Underlying Cause of Death Among Children and Young People Aged 0 to 19 Years in the US - PMC
Where does COVID-19 rank as an underlying cause of death for children and young people aged 0 to 19 years in the US? Among children and young people aged 0 to 19 years in the US, COVID-19 ranked eighth among all causes of deaths, fifth in ...
I also think it is bad for children's development when their teachers die.
15 Miami-Dade Public School Staff Members Die Of COVID In Just 10 Days
"It's a tremendous loss," said one education official of the death of a 30-year teacher.www.yahoo.com
Over 1,000 Educators Died From COVID. Here's the Story of One
Over two and a half years, we documented more than 1,300 deaths of educators who died from COVID.
Coronavirus News: 30 teachers among 74 DOE employees to die of COVID-19
The New York City Department of Education said it has now lost 74 employees to COVID-19 -- including teachers, staffers in food services, school aides and a computer technology specialist.abc7ny.com
Or when their parents or grandparents die from COVID.
More than 140,000 U.S. children lost a primary or secondary caregiver due to the COVID-19 pandemic
New study highlights stark disparities in caregiver deaths by race and ethnicity, calls for urgent public health response.www.nih.gov
COVID deaths: more than 10 million children lost a parent or carer
The consequences of losing a parent can be profound, but the right support can reduce the impact.
Or when they are impacted by non-death related impacts of Covid.
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lol,Trump talking about inviting Commie Xi to his inauguration. How will MAGA on here cope.?
