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Anyone hear the rumor on channel 7 during the start of Race 3 at the Gold Coast?

They said that there was a rumor floating around the pits that Rick Kelly and Todd Kelly will be driving together next year.

And they will "be doing their own thing"
 
If this happens it will be a good thing. Both have tallent. And dad has the money and backing.
Could be the next Perkins racing team. Love to see these boys racing together under the same banner.
 
I never heard anything about that but I can only see it being a good thing. As to have brothers racing and because they have grown up together all their lives they know each other better. So I will be hoping that this dfoes come to be true. As I noticed that Jack Perkins was racing and Todd actually took his drive through illness that hit young Jack.
So it would put Jack back where he belongs and the two brothers side by side.
But Lets hope they stick with Holdens and not swap to Fords. As it was a rumor a couple of years ago that Todd was going to move to Fords.
 

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[small bit of inside goss]

could be that PWR and TKR will drop their teams.
allowing the Kelly's to start a team if they decide
to go that way.

still could depend on the other teams around them.

Silly season sucks! :mad:
 
GFCats07 said:
[small bit of inside goss]

could be that PWR and TKR will drop their teams.
allowing the Kelly's to start a team if they decide
to go that way.

still could depend on the other teams around them.

Silly season sucks! :mad:
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pretty sure PWR will pull out.

i heard the only reason why they ran a team this year was because they would have been sued if they didn't. i cant remember the reason. could all be bull anyway.

maybe they can take over the TKR name
Team Kelly Racing?

better move it back to holden aswell. seeing those 2 in a ford just wouldnt be right
 
The Kelly's (John and Margaret) own licences already so if they wanted their own team, with Rick and Todd, they just leave being the 2nd Walkinshaw team and take their licences with them.

Motorsport eNews has Rick with Red Bull sponsorship, and maybe Todd with Jack Daniels sponsorship.

Also has Marcus Marshall having his own team next year with the PWR licence, and Paul Cruikshank still looking at going to a 2 car team (I hope with the TKR licence).

If the Kelly's do move, you could well see a 3rd HRT car in Autobarn colours and Paul Dumbrell behind the wheel.
 
mNews are now saying that Kelly's have done a deal with Larry Perkins to supply Kelly Racing commodores next season using his own engines

begs the question - does JD become Team Kelly or will they run LP's other car too (with Jack driving)
 
roostersgal4eva said:
mNews are now saying that Kelly's have done a deal with Larry Perkins to supply Kelly Racing commodores next season using his own engines

begs the question - does JD become Team Kelly or will they run LP's other car too (with Jack driving)
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I think that Todd Kelly is taking JD's sponsorship dollars with him.

If HSVDT is really owned by the Kelly boys' old man, then Todd will just take the place of Dumbrell, who is himself taking his Autobarn sponsorship and staying with Walkinshaw, as a HRT satellite. If Kelly Snr is just a frontman for Walkinshaw, then the boys will probably source an additional license from somewhere and start a brand new team, with brand new Perkins-built cars, leaving what was HSVDT (with a name change mind you, can't be too obvious) to Dumbrell and a new "development" driver (think Holden Young Lions).

Rick Kelly was after Red Bull sponsorship, but apparently has been knocked back.

Marcus Marshall has brought the second Britek license off Bright (and probably a car as well, not to mention what's left of Britek) and will own/drive a one-car team.

SBR are after Alex Davison to replace Courtney, who is replacing Will Davison at DJR, who is replacing Skaife at HRT.

LP will only run one car next year, for his son, but with no JD sponsorship.

There is a big line forming to sue TKR and David John, including Ford New Zealand, SBR & the Hamilton event organisers.

And this one from really left field. Paul Morris to retire, giving his seat to son-of-a-gun Johnson (although I'm calling bullshit on that one)

Just a few things I have picked up from various sources, some strong, some weak.
 
You have got to give it to TKR, they should have imploded long ago. Probably the only chance of running next year would be getting full on backing from Fahad Al Musalam and sponsors. Hopefully they get sued and shut down.

Motorsport eNews has Alex Davison at Stone Brothers Racing with IRWIN sponsorship. This will necessitate a number change as IRWIN would want to continue the association with #26. So Davison takes #26, Bright likely to take #4. Marshall to take the #25 and the Britek licence.

eNews - PWR licence sold to Walkinshaw Racing (pending approval) for Paul Dumbrell to use.

The Kelly parents own their licences, so will take them to set up their own team. I like the idea of them using Perkins gear as the team really has improved towards the end of the year. It will be interesting to see how their own engines perform. With Todd likely to bring JD and Red Bull deciding against sponsoring Rick, can they get JD to sponsor two cars.

With Perkins probably losing the JD cars, what does he do. A car for Jack with Mack sponsorship seems a probability. Finding a decent 2nd driver with sponsorship will be interesting. Plenty of decent drivers still out there though. Steve Johnson, Steve Owen, Adam Macrow, Andrew Thompson. Max Wilson could well carry the WOW sponsorship with him so could be worth an approach.

There was talk earlier in the year of Scott Loadsman wanting to step up to the main game, maybe an opportunity could present with LP. Loadsman is running Steve Owen in the Fujitsu Series this year.

I do love the rumour of Johnson going elsewhere, opens up a seat for Owen at DJR, and Morris retires to the Aussie Racers.

eNews - Paul Cruickshank Racing to lose Glenfords at the end of the year. Wilson Security a favourite to replace. PCR still meant to be in the hunt for a 2nd licence.

Will be interesting to see how the series lines up next year.
HRT - Will Davison, Garth Tander, Paul Dumbrell (ex-PWR licence)
TAS - Jason Richards, Greg Murphy
PER - Jack Perkins, ?
BOC (WP chassis, engine) - Andrew Jones, Cameron McConville
KRT (Perkins chassis) - Rick Kelly, Todd Kelly
GRM (WP engines) - Lee Holdsworth, Michael Caruso
PMM - Russell Ingall, ? (Paul Morris, Steve Johnson)
RNR (WP chassis, engine) - Tony D'Alberto

SBR/BRI - Alex Davison, Shane Van Gisbergen, Jason Bright
MMR (888 chassis, engine) - Marcus Marshall
FPR - Mark Winterbottom, Steven Richards
FRSR (FPR chassis, engine) - ? (Michael Patrizi, Andrew Thompson)
DJR (888 chassis) - James Courtney, ? (Steve Johnson, Steve Owen)
888 - Craig Lowndes, Jamie Whincup
PCR (888 chassis) - Fabian Coulthard, (2nd licence if can get hands on sponsorship/licence)
TKR - hopefully shut down (Al Musalam?)
 
I have to say that it woud be a good move to have both Kelly boys driving together.
I would think the first yeaar might be a little bit of a struggle but once it is all irned out they will be up there with the best.
I would let go of Steven Johnson as i don't think he has got what it takes and the only reason why he has lasted so long is his dad is the owner of the team.
AdelUniCrowFan what you put down was really good reading so well done as I found it intresting.
 
I think we'll only see 26 next year save for the enduros.

FORD TEAMS
FPR: Frosty, S.Richards
SBR (Stone): Van Gisbergen, A.Davison
SBR (Bright): Bright
DJR: Courtney, TBA (Owen/Johnson/Luff)
T8: Whincup, Lowndes [Even though they may be just branded as T8 Supercars as Roland Dane has been saying]
MAR: Marshall
PCR: Coulthard [Won't get enough backing for 2nd licence]

HOLDEN TEAMS
HRT: Tander, W.Davison
KRT: R.Kelly, T.Kelly
BJR: A.Jones, McConville
PMM: Ingall, TBA (Morris Likely)
GRM: Holdsworth, Caruso
TAS: J.Richards, Murphy
DUM: Dumbrell (3rd Walkinshaw licence)
RNR: D'Alberto
PER: Perkins


No Ford Rising Stars, Team Kiwi or any other team stepping up save for Bathurst.
 

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I'd say at least 28 on the grid next year, 29 depending on TKR or PCR 2nd car. Possibly 30 if Kelly Racing ran 5 cars. The Walden licence is the 30th licence. A massive guess on my part but I wouldn't be surprised if V8SC put a 31st or 32nd licence back on the market (ex WPS licences) if there was interest as given the current climate the chance of teams folding is high, so having more main game teams would be beneficial in the case of a team folding.

CONFIRMED this week - Glenfords to leave

V8 website had the Weel licence being sold to Walkinshaw, but the latest has Marshall disputing saying that he had placed a deposit on it. Either way there are enough licences to go around.

CONFIRMED - Daniel Gaunt to race for TKR at Symmons.

Another week, more changes from eNews

eNews tonight.
Jason Bright to run SBRE engine at Symmons this week.

Perkins to cease running a team (will still own licences), will build cars provide engineering support for Kelly Racing.

Kelly Racing to be a 4-5 car team next year.

Todd and Rick guaranteed starters.
eNews expects Jack Perkins and Paul Dumbrell to be part of the line up when the team is officially announced.

So you could have
Todd Kelly - Jack Daniels
Rick Kelly - ?
Jack Perkins - Mack
Paul Dumbrell - Autobarn

Andrew Thompson closer to the Ford Rising Stars seat.

Next year now looking like (to change another umpteen times before Clipsal)
HRT - Will Davison, Garth Tander, ? (PWR licence or other 3rd licence if Marshall disputes this purchase)
TAS - Jason Richards, Greg Murphy
BOC (WP chassis, engine) - Andrew Jones, Cameron McConville
KRT/PER (Perkins chassis) - Rick Kelly, Todd Kelly, Jack Perkins, Paul Dumnbrell
GRM (WP engines) - Lee Holdsworth, Michael Caruso
PMM - Russell Ingall, ? (Paul Morris, Jonathon Webb)
RNR (WP chassis, engine) - Tony D'Alberto

SBR/BRI - Alex Davison, Shane Van Gisbergen, Jason Bright
MMR (888 chassis, engine) - Marcus Marshall
FPR - Mark Winterbottom, Steven Richards
FRSR (FPR chassis, engine) - ? (Andrew Thompson)
DJR (888 chassis) - James Courtney, ? (Steve Johnson, Steve Owen)
888 - Craig Lowndes, Jamie Whincup
PCR (888 chassis) - Fabian Coulthard, (2nd licence if can get hands on sponsorship/licence)
TKR - hopefully shut down (Al Musalam?)
 
AdelUniCrowFan said:
I'd say at least 28 on the grid next year, 29 depending on TKR or PCR 2nd car. Possibly 30 if Kelly Racing ran 5 cars. The Walden licence is the 30th licence. A massive guess on my part but I wouldn't be surprised if V8SC put a 31st or 32nd licence back on the market (ex WPS licences) if there was interest as given the current climate the chance of teams folding is high, so having more main game teams would be beneficial in the case of a team folding.

CONFIRMED this week - Glenfords to leave

V8 website had the Weel licence being sold to Walkinshaw, but the latest has Marshall disputing saying that he had placed a deposit on it. Either way there are enough licences to go around.

CONFIRMED - Daniel Gaunt to race for TKR at Symmons.

Another week, more changes from eNews

eNews tonight.
Jason Bright to run SBRE engine at Symmons this week.

Perkins to cease running a team (will still own licences), will build cars provide engineering support for Kelly Racing.

Kelly Racing to be a 4-5 car team next year.

Todd and Rick guaranteed starters.
eNews expects Jack Perkins and Paul Dumbrell to be part of the line up when the team is officially announced.

So you could have
Todd Kelly - Jack Daniels
Rick Kelly - ?
Jack Perkins - Mack
Paul Dumbrell - Autobarn

Andrew Thompson closer to the Ford Rising Stars seat.

Next year now looking like (to change another umpteen times before Clipsal)
HRT - Will Davison, Garth Tander, ? (PWR licence or other 3rd licence if Marshall disputes this purchase)
TAS - Jason Richards, Greg Murphy
BOC (WP chassis, engine) - Andrew Jones, Cameron McConville
KRT/PER (Perkins chassis) - Rick Kelly, Todd Kelly, Jack Perkins, Paul Dumnbrell
GRM (WP engines) - Lee Holdsworth, Michael Caruso
PMM - Russell Ingall, ? (Paul Morris, Jonathon Webb)
RNR (WP chassis, engine) - Tony D'Alberto

SBR/BRI - Alex Davison, Shane Van Gisbergen, Jason Bright
MMR (888 chassis, engine) - Marcus Marshall
FPR - Mark Winterbottom, Steven Richards
FRSR (FPR chassis, engine) - ? (Andrew Thompson)
DJR (888 chassis) - James Courtney, ? (Steve Johnson, Steve Owen)
888 - Craig Lowndes, Jamie Whincup
PCR (888 chassis) - Fabian Coulthard, (2nd licence if can get hands on sponsorship/licence)
TKR - hopefully shut down (Al Musalam?)
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4-5 cars? geez!!

are they going to get half a test day each?
 
I'd say it would be worked out such that it unofficially is a 4-5 car team, but officially it will be a 2 car Perkins team and a 2-3 car Kelly team. This way, gets around testing restrictions.

Also, testing rules have yet to be announced for 2009, so restrictions may be undertermined.

At this stage the potential 3 car teams are HRT (with 3rd PWR licence), SBR + Bright, FPR + Rising Stars, with the 4 car Kelly-Perkins team.
 
It's a clever move in that it has used a loop hole to do it but Mark had to prove it was his team last year or the year before . But this was all smoke and mirror's stuff anyway.
And I would say that the Tripe 8 team and the Wincup or the other one Winterbottom's team are doing the exact same thing. So its not something just Holdens are doing.
I really see no harm in it. All this does is make the strong teams stronger and leaves the lesser team back further.
But this is also a good thing as this is a way to tell if a driver in a lesser car hanlde the pressure. And could lead up to them getting a better drive.
Like I like Dalberto or how ever you spell his name.
I think he has got what it takes to be there.
But I will always be one of the Kelly boys followers as they are from close by and I would have to say Rick is my number one then Todd and after that any Holden
 
Pioneer said:
And I would say that the Tripe 8 team and the Wincup or the other one Winterbottom's team are doing the exact same thing. So its not something just Holdens are doing.
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Not FPR and 888, those teams are worlds apart in that sense.

Pioneer said:
Like I like Dalberto or how ever you spell his name.
I think he has got what it takes to be there.
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My claim to fame, I went to school with that bloke. Sorta, he's a few years older than me.
 
Our claim to fame is my son went to school and was is some classes with Rick Kelly.

And with the team thing they may look worlds apart but in reality they ain't that to dissimular.
I could be wrong to and I will admit it if I am.
But I do think the Triple 8 team are the major suppliers of part to another team I just don't remember which one as it is Ford and I'm not that interseted in Ford.
 
The grid for the 2009 V8 Supercars is looking a bit like this at the moment

Triple Eight : Craig Lowndes & Jamie Whincup
Holden Racing : Garth Tander & Will Davison
Walkinshaw Racing : Paul Dumbrell & David Reynolds
Ford Performance : Mark Winterbottom & Steven Richards
Jim Beam : Steve Johnson & James Courtney
Sprint Gas : Greg Murphy & Jason Bargwanna
Brad Jones Racing : Cam McConville & Jason Richards
Kelly Racing : Todd & Rick Kelly
Perkins Racing [Kelly aligned] : Jack Perkins
Garry Rogers : Lee Holdsworth & Michael Caruso
Supercheap : Russell Ingall & ????
Stone Brothers : Shane VanGisbergen [SP Tools] & Alex Davison [Irwin Tools]
Britek [SBR aligned] : Jason Bright
Rod Nash : Tony D’Alberto
Paul Cruickshank : Fabian Coulthard [Wilson Security] & Michael Patrizi [AusDrill]
IntaRacing : Marcus Marshall
Team Kiwi : Daniel Gaunt
 

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