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such helpful words ....
Its a fact, much smaller competitions than the VAFA are up the shit this season as well and will be heavily reliant on a lot of umpires doubling up. If U/19s want umpires they should do what most other comps do, play first thing and they’ll always have umpires. They’ll even get goal and boundaries from time to time as well!!!
Don’t think there is a single u/19 game being played at 9:20 without umpires tomorrow. Some Div 4 have goal and boundaries!!!
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If umps continue to be a problem, maybe its time to look at scheduling - with the clubs agreement of course - Friday night and Sunday games, and have available umps double up?
There is a Sunday game this week and Friday night game next week in A grade. I think someone mentioned though councils limit night games due to local sooks.
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Am I misunderstanding something?
For Premier Mens of a total required Field Umpires of 30 the VAFA is allocating 30 ie 100% |
For Premier Womens of a total required Field Umpires of 24 the VAFA is allocating 5 ie 21% |
For Divisional Mens of a total required Field Umpires of 36 the VAFA is allocating 34 ie 94% |
For Divisional Womens of a total required Field Umpires of 26 the VAFA is allocating 2 ie 8% |
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I also understand that it continues to be VERY challenging to find at the required umpires, but to receive just two field umpires across 5 of our team teams this weekend has created significant stress - again - on many clubs run by volunteers.
Lets hope for at least ONE field umpire in each of the games in the lower grades (Division 1 and below, Reserves, Thirds - for our mens and womens teams) and some support/understanding from all parties as 'club' umpires try and do their best.
Just a quick Q: Do we send the invoice for our club umpires to H/O directly or just take it off the fees? ;-)
Have a great day all - it IS goodd that footy is back.
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Lets hope for at least ONE field umpire in each of the games in the lower grades (Division 1 and below, Reserves, Thirds - for our mens and womens teams) and some support/understanding from all parties as 'club' umpires try and do their best.
Just a quick Q: Do we send the invoice for our club umpires to H/O directly or just take it off the fees? ;-)
Have a great day all - it IS goodd that footy is back.
Chump.
yep and
A grade is meant to be 3 umpire system.
Under 19s is short..
np boundaries in C grade
some B grade games with 1 boundary .
Multiple clubs very angry yesterday.
rightly so.
Chatted to the mum and dad of one of the senior umps at the Glen Eira night came. They go to all his games and said he had a morning u19 game followed by the night game plus a game on Sunday. They were concerned with the shortage of umps at present. This ump had to travel from Bundoora to Carnegie for this game. Might be time for the Ammos to start marketing now re umpires in 2022. I think also that potential umps should know what money they can earn.
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Back in my day (reaches for Zimmer frame), it was pitched to young boundaries and goalies as being a good way to earn more than they would be paid in a supermarket shift. I'd have preferred them reaching out to clubs in serious summer sports, athletics etc that it would be a great way to maintain their fitness in the off season while getting paid for it, and grabbing those who'd never thought about umpiring as a winter option before. Comes down to what gets bodies on the park I suppose, but having umpired with some of the "just there for the money" people, it's a debatable strategy.
Best way to get goals and boundaries is to go through the schools, target the schools that play in the VAFA.
The goalies seem to get plenty of young guys so not sure what they are doing to recruit there, but most just do 19s for a year or two and disappear, at least it keeps ticking over.
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Went to my first vafa game in lower tiers this week,
Ressie's - volunteer umps, seniors 2 umps
vafa seems like a joke if you're not in premier, EDFL gets umps for all grades, Womens and Thirds.
Ressie's - volunteer umps, seniors 2 umps
vafa seems like a joke if you're not in premier, EDFL gets umps for all grades, Womens and Thirds.
Seen a post being shared around about the VAFA on Instagram being sexist for not providing girls umpires while men’s were all covered? Not sure how true?
The big boys in the ivory tower won’t like being tagged all over social media
The big boys in the ivory tower won’t like being tagged all over social media
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3 divisions, that must be hard work to cover...
We’ll see how well they do this season, every league is struggling and every league will rely on umpires doubling up to cover their games.
But there a reason good umpires leave EDFL to come to the VAFA.
Which game? I notice some clubs seem to do well with helpers, others really struggle.
For as long as I can remember, the lower grades have always had club umpires in the Twos. For almost all of games, they are umpired fairly and with no controversy. There are the odd clubs who's umpires are clearly only looking one way, but they are very much the exception. I had to fill in and do it once and it gave me a much greater appreciation for what the umps have to do.
Personally I think the league umpires should be appointed to the Reserves over the Clubbies. Clubs don't get a choice if they want to field a Reserves side, but the Thirds (at least those below the Premier grades) are voluntary, so if they want to field a third or fourth team, then I think they should be asked to supply umpires for those matches. The league umps, even if it is only one, can be allocated to the Reserves.
Well said ; couldnt agree more
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Not the case in D1 and hasn't been for a while. A couple of clubs spring to mind...
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What a silly post, the VAFA have been amazing promoting the women's game. Brett Connell and his team have been under the pump trying to keep everyone happy with limited resources, shit canning them helps no-one. Perhaps you can blow the whistle this weekend?
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All ressie umpires were seen as biased. I loved being called a cheat when you weren't even umpiring your own team.I’ve heard SMS is pretty bad
Best cheat of an umpire was a former professional umpire who would never hand over and boxed you into a corner, never giving you a chance to make any decisions.
Nearly had a fight with an umpire one day, and I wasn't even umpiring OI.
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Well said
My club in Premier section has volunteers run the boundary in the reserves, thirds and under 19s games (usually parents). Our girls sides have a club umpire as well. I remember Finey saying years ago on SEN that being the club umpire for the reserves at Ormond gave him a greater appreciation for umpiring and how difficult it was.
I even popped in a little early to TH King on the weekend with a few mates who play soccer and pointed out that the SKOB president was running the boundary for their thirds side. My mates were a bit taken aback by it and surprised (most soccer clubs have a lot of paid helpers running around doing that sort of thing), but it just goes to show that every single club has volunteers chipping in and doing whatever they can around the place to make it work.
Also, let's be honest, the VAFA is the pre-eminent and largest football competition in Melbourne and there are more sides in 2021 than 2019 from what HQ has said, so I'd say it'd be pretty damn hard to try and get people to umpire, boundary umpire and goal umpire across all sections for both men and women.
