Vic clubs in a traditional sense wealthy toffs and working class battlers

[timokane]

In a traditional sese its the following:

Wealthy toffs are:

Carlton
Melbourne
Hawthorn
Geelong
Essendon

Working class battlers:

Collingwood
Footscray
Saint kilda
North

Im undecided on richmond they for mine are on the fence kind of working class background but i still think they had and have that wealthy trendy edge to them so ill say a bit of both.

the groups are in order too.

So the most wealthy was carlton and most working class was collingwood

Still think essendon and geelong have wealthy back grounds to them even though geelong is a hole of a place and essendon along with melbourne were the other 2 wealthy toffs for the melbourne teams

Hawthorn were always wealthy toffs just more successfull then melbourne thats all.

Both were toffs due to the area around hawthorn as well its was liberal as.

Like footscray as well for the battlers just the area was battlersville.

i have stkilda as working class as they are from moorabin which is a industrial area and like got that tradie feel about them.

North ill say was the least battler until the 1970s when they went corporate then they became toffs.

The classic wealthy toffs and battler clash was traditionally carlton v collingwood but you could have melbourne v collingwood in there as well but for mine is blues and pies.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Another timo special

 

[Bostonian]

Geelong was a mix of rural, working class and middle class.

Very middle class club these days.

 

[Pistol Night]

Another timo special

Im pulling my kids out of school and just making them read his threads. Its all the education a person needs

 

[Sttew]

Geelong was a mix of rural, working class and middle class.

Very middle class club these days.

And if the fortunes of Eddie Maguire epitomise those of Collingwood, then the Pies are no longer working class battlers but a "new money" team. How many current Collingwood players come from Collingwood? Darcy Moore is a product of an elite private school

 

[peetoo]

South Yarra magpies?

 

[Bostonian]

And if the fortunes of Eddie Maguire epitomise those of Collingwood, then the Pies are no longer working class battlers but a "new money" team. How many current Collingwood players come from Collingwood? Darcy Moore is a product of an elite private school

Working class clubs always had private school players though.

Collingwood would have had a lot of Catholic school players for a long time in its early years.

 

[Sttew]

Working class clubs always had private school players though.

Collingwood would have had a lot of Catholic school players for a long time in its early years.

I'm sure. But to say Collingwood is still a working class 'battlers' club is a misnomer now. Bit like Eddie telling us he a battler from Broadie! He might have been, but he isn't anymore

 

[JerryWexler]

I'm sure. But to say Collingwood is still a working class 'battlers' club is a misnomer now. Bit like Eddie telling us he a battler from Broadie! He might have been, but he isn't anymore

Going back even further, the late Ernie Sigley. Made a career out of being the little Aussie battler from Footscray, but lived in Glen Iris and drove a $90,000 Mercedes.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I agree with timo, the working class clubs should be relegated to the VFL.

That’s what he’s getting at isn’t it?

 

[Pistol Night]

I agree with timo, the working class clubs should be relegated to the VFL.

That’s what he’s getting at isn’t it?

That’s one of 50 possibilities

 

[Kwality]

Geelong was a mix of rural, working class and middle class.

Very middle class club these days.

Middle class you say, what measure are you using or more importantly that of the OP, who imho is running an argument from earlier than the B&W TV era as if it applies this century.

 

[Bostonian]

Middle class you say, what measure are you using or more importantly that of the OP, who imho is running an argument from earlier than the B&W TV era as if it applies this century.

Because I live in Geelong and I know their home games are most definitely not packed to the rafters with people from Corio, Norlane and Whittington.

 

[timokane]

still think cats are really well financially backed since around early 90s and continue to be the case.

but you are right the place is a dump and only a few nice blocks there on the bay foreshore then walk a bit further back and its a trash hole.

But as a club always been well off with the $

thats why i have them in the toffs group

the real middle class club for mines stkilda

tigers used to be in the 90s but become more of a toff club

collingwood yes have alot of $ but i feel is more better management in terms of feel its still got that harder working class about them just well set up i guess out of good managment with the $ now but wasnt the case circa 2011-2020 hence the change also in the 1990s even in 1998 they asked for a bit of a help from the afl but they knocked it all back in our faces. Typical

 

[Bostonian]

still think cats are really well financially backed since around early 90s and continue to be the case.

but you are right the place is a dump and only a few nice blocks there on the bay foreshore then walk a bit further back and its a trash hole.

But as a club always been well off with the $

thats why i have them in the toffs group

the real middle class club for mines stkilda

tigers used to be in the 90s but become more of a toff club

collingwood yes have alot of $ but i feel is more better management in terms of feel its still got that harder working class about them just well set up i guess out of good managment with the $ now but wasnt the case circa 2011-2020 hence the change also in the 1990s even in 1998 they asked for a bit of a help from the afl but they knocked it all back in our faces. Typical

You're full of shit.

Most of Geelong is middle class suburbs.

It's the Melbournites flocking down here that have turned the place to shit.

 

[STPer18]

Why yes, after a delightful game of football me and the other gentleman love to stop by the local diner for some edibles and refreshments.

 

[Dangerousfield]

FMD, this lad just keeps at it, this one penned during school recess at 11.33am

Every post from this kid is just rubbish

 

[Corn Cobbers]

Essendon are wealthy bogans not wealthy toffs

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

still think cats are really well financially backed since around early 90s and continue to be the case.

but you are right the place is a dump and only a few nice blocks there on the bay foreshore then walk a bit further back and its a trash hole.

But as a club always been well off with the $

thats why i have them in the toffs group

the real middle class club for mines stkilda

tigers used to be in the 90s but become more of a toff club

collingwood yes have alot of $ but i feel is more better management in terms of feel its still got that harder working class about them just well set up i guess out of good managment with the $ now but wasnt the case circa 2011-2020 hence the change also in the 1990s even in 1998 they asked for a bit of a help from the afl but they knocked it all back in our faces. Typical

Oh please, know your history. You do realise the club went into crisis in 1999 under a mountain of debt which forced massive funding cuts to the football department, it was so dire that Garry Hocking changed his name legally to Whiskas In order to raise money to offset the $750,000 running losses ($7.5 million total losses) for the club. it wasn’t until about 2004 when Frank Costa had stabilised the credit position that any real money could be allocated to the fitness & performance programme.

 

[ThatsjustDappa]

Because I live in Geelong and I know their home games are most definitely not packed to the rafters with people from Corio, Norlane and Whittington.

That's why TV was invented, to keep the scozzas at home on the tellie for free and the toffs go to the game.

 

[Kwality]

Oh please, know your history. You do realise the club went into crisis in 1999 under a mountain of debt which forced massive funding cuts to the football department, it was so dire that Garry Hocking changed his name legally to Whiskas In order to raise money to offset the $750,000 running losses ($7.5 million total losses) for the club. it wasn’t until about 2004 when Frank Costa had stabilised the credit position that any real money could be allocated to the fitness & performance programme.

Cooky jetting in made a difference,

 

[timokane]

did say they are well off the cats and agree bombers are just wealthy bogans sooks as well

 

[Cdog71]

Can I just nominate timokane for poster of the year now thanks.

Compelling.

 

[LifeSpan-Void]

Cooky jetting in made a difference,

Yeah basically Cook Costa and Thompson saved Geelong from inevitable oblivion

 

[peetoo]

Essendon are wealthy bogans not wealthy toffs

Even the suburb wants to be Hawthorn