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Which universities do you believe are really good? And which do you believe are terrible?

Academically, as well as environmental, attitude (of other students/tutors/lecturers), quality of the pub/cafes/eateries, building conditions, transport and various other issues you'd like to throw in.
 
well I've only had classes in 1 (caulfield monash), and ive been to clayton a few times. I like my uni, it's small (you see the same people all the time so you get to know alot more people) and the facilaties are pretty new. Some of the lecturers need to learn how to speek english though. Would never go to Clayton though. Too much traffic around there, too many people, have to walk forever to get from one building to another. There's also 3 pubs within 5 minutes walking distance!
 
I go to RMIT Tafe in cardigan street, actually quite good it's small and you the same people around so you sort of get to know them even if they don't do your course.

Different story if you go to main campus on Swanston street and surrounds, so big but good library etc.
 

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Used to attend Vic Uni in foot-a-scray, personally i didn't think much of it, tutors didn't seem to care one bit, lecturers just read off powerpoint presentations, which you could just get yourself off thew website, travel sucked, having the choice to get on a crammed bus from footscray station to and from the uni, or walk through footscray market,i don't know which was worse, that place seriously stinks.. and then the people there students wise well, you questioned why they were there, then again lower enter scores then most other uni's is probably the reason for that, but the mature age students i really don't know why some of them are there, weren't coping well at all :confused:

cafeterias were plain, buildings also, nothing better then my high school, which was poor in itself, and well of course travelling from south east melbourne to north west didn't appeal to me much, although some of what i said may be the case

on the plus side work was relatively easy, and if you didn't do your work required for the tutorials nothing was said, and i did well for someone who rarely showed up, then again most my first year subjects were the same as year 12 content i had covered the year before, but i'd choose an RMIT or Monash over it i think, if you're prepared to take your study seriously, but if you want a free ride... by all means Vic Uni is the one :rolleyes:
 
mattynix said:
travel sucked, having the choice to get on a crammed bus from footscray station to and from the uni, or walk through footscray market,i don't know which was worse, that place seriously stinks
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Hey, I go to Melbourne Uni, and I still have to take that same goddamn bus! Sometimes I could kill someone when the queues at Vic Uni for that bus are huge and I'm in a hurry...

Footscray Market. Ugh.
 
I have been to 2 unis in Melbourne, Swinburne in Hawthorn and Latrobe in Bundoora (currently studying here)

Swinburne was a good uni IMO, had really good technology and even though the buildings were old-ish, most of the lecture theatres I was in were recently refurbished. Glenferrie road was right there, so plenty of coffee shop opportunities etc...however if was miles away from where I was living so travel time was crap, even though the station is right there. Met some good friends there, but a lot of people seemed to shut themselves out.

Latrobe is a really good uni too, buildings aren't near Swinburne's standards however the lecturers specific to the course I am in (rather than general business lecturers who are terrible) are excellent. Plenty of foodage around the area, facilities are everywhere (cinema, theatres etc) and everyone is so much warmer than at Swinburne. I recommend it if you want to be a Sport Manager.
 
Milne said:
well I've only had classes in 1 (caulfield monash), and ive been to clayton a few times. I like my uni, it's small (you see the same people all the time so you get to know alot more people) and the facilaties are pretty new. Some of the lecturers need to learn how to speek english though. Would never go to Clayton though. Too much traffic around there, too many people, have to walk forever to get from one building to another. There's also 3 pubs within 5 minutes walking distance!
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LOL Monash is only the biggest university in Australia!!!
 
I go to Swinburne Lilydale.
**** location, **** attitude in general towards the uni (as there is nothing at all to do there) so most people are there as little as possible.

Lecturers are pretty stock standard read off powerpoint presentation and I'm passing while barely ever showing up which is a plus. People in general are nice though no one, in my course at least, really wants to be there.
 
Deestroy said:
I go to Swinburne Lilydale.
**** location, **** attitude in general towards the uni (as there is nothing at all to do there) so most people are there as little as possible.

Lecturers are pretty stock standard read off powerpoint presentation and I'm passing while barely ever showing up which is a plus. People in general are nice though no one, in my course at least, really wants to be there.
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Well, least I know my uni wasn't on it's own as being so crap.. was worried i had been an unlucky one in gaining a placement, however i would definately have preferred swinburne as at least one benefit would have been a 15 minute train ride as opposed to the hour or so i had to at vic uni, but yes i sympathise with you totally here..
 
BomberGal said:
Hey, I go to Melbourne Uni, and I still have to take that same goddamn bus! Sometimes I could kill someone when the queues at Vic Uni for that bus are huge and I'm in a hurry...

Footscray Market. Ugh.
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haha yeh well i assume you're talking of the 406 bus? least you probably get a seat before most, least i hope you do because you're right it is shocking, and takes forever cramming everyone on at the uni, very rare it's not packed when i was there... mostly because most are lazy to walk to the station and the bus rarely comes on time or at every scheduled departing time listed

and as for the market, hmmm it's a tough choice whether to walk through it to and from the station or not, generally i chose to, but some people there sorry to stereotype but the asian majority of that region most likely of the vietnamese variety treat you like ********, i've been abused and all i said was "if you're gonna insult me do it in english" but of course they don't understand :rolleyes:

as if uni doesn't put you off enough aside from travelling to a "foreign country" to be treated like you don't belong, and the stench in that market place is unbearable, especially the meat and fruit shops there, i see old ladies pick up fruit, take bites and then throw it back in? wtf? simple hygiene for ****'s sake.. glad i live this side of melbourne :eek: :(
 

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mattynix said:
haha yeh well i assume you're talking of the 406 bus? least you probably get a seat before most, least i hope you do because you're right it is shocking, and takes forever cramming everyone on at the uni, very rare it's not packed when i was there... mostly because most are lazy to walk to the station and the bus rarely comes on time or at every scheduled departing time listed
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Yep. I'm lucky enough to get on just after Highpoint, so I usually get a seat...but I'd much rather the bus be on time than get a seat. It's really starting to give me the ****s...it's ridiculous how long that bus will sit at Footscray station or Highpoint past the scheduled leaving time! What really annoys me is that, the bus will be scheduled to leave at, say, 5:40 from F'scray. So 5:40 comes...then 5:50...no-one's gotten on for nearly 10 minutes, a train will pull into the station (they seem to wait for this same train every time), and the bus leaves as the train pulls in. Gees, if you're gonna be late, at least be nice enough to wait two more minutes for all the people on the train that will otherwise have to wait another 15... :rolleyes:
 
I go to Monash, and they are generally, very, very good.

I'm at a smaller campus, Peninsula, because it's only about 1/2 an hours drive from where I live, and I couldn't be bothered driving to Clayton or Caulfield when I put in my preferences at the end of Year 12.

Clayton is HUGE, as is Caulfield, but if you like that sort of thing, then go for it.

Monash, and pretty up to date with everything, ie. technology, and the lecturers are usually pretty good, same with the tutors. Although, you do get the odd idiot, who can't teach. Overall, most have a pretty good attitude. The only prob I find is that sometimes, you will geta lecturer, or a tutor, that doesn't have very good English, and it can be a little difficult to understand, but that would probably be an issue at most unis.

Lecture theatres are up to date, and they've recently built a new one in the Business building, which is actually yet to be complete, but will be great once it's done. Also, at my campus, you don't have to sit in a lecture with 200 odd other people. It is an intimate environment, and very easy to get feedback from the lecturer. Although, in first year, you will find that there are always more people in lectures, because you are completing core subjects to your degree.

The buildings a pretty new, and if they aren't, the inside of them are pretty up to date. Library wasn't built that long ago, would be less than 10 years ago I reckon.

I don't use public transport, but it's not too hard to get to the uni.

But overall, I would recommend Monash to everyone, and don't be afraid of studying at a smaller campus.
 
A course I am looking at doing next year is at Swinbourne (Hawthorn). Being in Melton that's like over an hours worth of travelling though. :( Pain in the ********ing ass living out here.

Is anyone on here doing the course "IT Scolarship" at Swinbourne or anywhere else?
 
I'm at RMIT city campus....and it's sh*t....no, thats derogatory towards all faeces, its worse than sh*t.

The Engineering department is way way underfunded, the tech is out of date, until this year we were using 486's ferchrisakes. Over two thirds of the lecturers and tutors don't speak english (not even hanglish, japlish, hindlish or any other variant of the Queen's lingo), and it is so biased towards the international students it is unbelievable.

The student management system (AMS) lost the uni $18m and will lose the uni more money this year (Screw you Peoplesoft!). The Vice Chancellor has been forced to resign, and more budget cuts are on the way. The atmosphere is horrible, as it is a rabbit warren of highrise rather then a traditional campus layout.

On the plus side, any dealings I've had with RMIT Business faculty have been positive and worthwhile. They seem professional, well run and up to date with lecturers who are actually knowledgable and understandable.

I only have one year to go, and I can't wait to get back into the workforce, to be with people who actually care about their work.
 
I went to VU in St Albans for one year, and I've been at LaTrobe in Bundoora for 2 and a half years now (not consecutively though.)

VU St Albans is a concrete hole, there's no social life, there's no choice of subjects (if you're doing a more general academic degree, like arts or sciences or whatever this sucks), no atmosphere, a crappy little library, and a bad reputation to boot. All that I hate about VU though, can be summed up in 3 words: tutorial allocation day. This is the day where you line up at 6am, so that at 9am you get given a number for the order of which you can line up in a packed full little corridoor on the fourth storey of some building with everybody in every year of your course, at 1pm, so that they let you in, in groups at 3pm to discover that all the good tutorials have been taken anyway by the Footscray Park students, or the media studies students, and although you got into the first group to sign up, you have to take a 6pm Friday tutorial, and although you only have 9 contact hours you have to go in 5 days a week. There are good things too:- The lecturers know you, and so know where you're at, and I think their teaching style was a lot more direct and relevant than some of my Latrobe lecturers have been. All your union fees went towards free food (well free $300 food) which was crap, but fun at the time, and you get to see people more often - like at latrobe, I rarely have a person in two of my classes, and never see anyone on breaks, but at VU because the course was so small, I made friends a lot easier because everybody was around at the same time. They drummed employability tactics into your head from day one, and were really good if you were doing more practical degrees or subjects (considered staying just for the professional writing subject)

I love Latrobe though, as a university. It's a nice alternative to Melbourne and Monash, still an academic one though, so it's academia for the working class (or they have been, although this is rapidly changing. When I first got accepted into my course in 2000, the ter was 54 or something like that, when I reapplied for entry last year, it was 72, and this year it was 79. plus like everywhere else, the fees are rising, and the quality is dropping) I like the atmosphere of the place though, very laid back, but y'know, studentish. The library is huge, particularly for history related books, there are plenty of eating type places, the tutes are organised by turning up to your first lecture and putting your hand up or writing preferences on a piece of paper, lecturers all very approachable, and all blame the system if you don't hand your essay in on time, the range of subjects is decent (but dropping as fees go up, unfortunately), there's plenty of other facilities. Only real issue I have is the distance, but it's dropped from 2 hours to 30 minutes now I have a car.
 
Interesting to hear how different unis enrol students for tutes, lectures, and actual subjects.

At Monash, we do it all over the Internet (unless you are enrolling for summer semester, which must be done manually). The the schedule for tutes an lectures on a certain day, and you get you put your preference in, in order from say 1-5 (1 being your first preference) all via the web. You don't always get your first preference, but I reckon that system is a hell of alot better than having to line up, or write it down in the first lecture.

The same thing applies with actually enrolling in your subjects. It is all done via the web. You simply, logon and enter the subject codes for the subjects you want to do, and click submit. You are then enrolled in the course. You can also discontinue units etc, via the web.
 
I go to Deakin Uni in Burwood. Pretty good facilities, alright to get to (albeit limited parking) and the people I've been involved with are pretty good.

Subway is a 4 minute walk, too.

Still, I prefer not spending too much time there.
 
Trust me Matthew, the parking situation this semester is the best its been in 3 years. To be able to arrive at 10am and get a spot in the mutli-level is something I've never experienced before.
 
Still Crowing said:
The student management system (AMS) lost the uni $18m and will lose the uni more money this year (Screw you Peoplesoft!). The Vice Chancellor has been forced to resign, and more budget cuts are on the way. The atmosphere is horrible, as it is a rabbit warren of highrise rather then a traditional campus layout.

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Im at RMIT Bundoora, the AMS is a absolute joke, crashed whenever you really need it and the email system logs you out constantly. My campus is very very boring, to far from any shops and just has 3 crappy canteens and a couple of shoddy "cafes". I'm doing a phys ed course yet the track they had wasn't maintained so it is a goner, the footy oval isn't used or looked after and despite the fact we do a swimming class we have to go to Latrobe to use the pool

The only excitement is seeing the kangaroos across the road on the way home.
 
Milne said:
Would never go to Clayton though. Too much traffic around there, too many people, have to walk forever to get from one building to another. There's also 3 pubs within 5 minutes walking distance!
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That's what they all say when they didn't get into Clayton.

The Nott is the only pub you'll ever need...or so I'm told
 
djgk53 said:
That's what they all say when they didn't get into Clayton.

The Nott is the only pub you'll ever need...or so I'm told
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Personally, I could have gone to Clayton, but didn't think there was much point, seeing as though I could do the same course closer to home.
 

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