Virat Kohli

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yep Aussierules.

I suspect a few states can look around and suggest that a few players have been damaged through poor management and administrators advising them on batting technique or to focus on something etc.

I'm impressed with the comments I'm hearing about McDermott who isn't changing bowlers but giving them a nip and tuck with direction.

Comments about other administrators and coaches is that they were trying to rebuild bowlers and batsmen.

Hooks is another 'coach' that despite being gone for a while is still spoken about.
 
I agree (at least in tests), but I believe that is largely the fault of those in charge of the game (and selecting the Australian side) rather than Smith himself. You don't get 4 first class centuries in a season, at the age of 20, or 21, on top of plenty of wickets and fantastic fielding, without some serious ability.
While his batting technique is questionable, especially for test cricket, I hope to see him play a heap more cricket for Australia, because he is one the best young talents we've had come along for a fair while. He was just chronically overplayed and over exposed (and probably overpaid), before he was ready for it all.
 

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Santana said:
That's his ODI record, what's his test one like? I thought ODI's were dead? Or is that only when it suits people?
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8 matches with only an average of 33. but its only a matter of time when that climbs to around 45. with dravid retiring, he's the favorite for taking the no.3 spot so he will get more time to bat and establish himself in the team :)

and his father was a lawyer so he also likes arguing and stuff and doesn't take crap...that's what i think anyways
 
Kohli seems to have the goods to become a very good cricketer.

However, what the Indian team also need is a real leader. If he could develop that aspect then poeple could really respect him.

At the moment he's an arrogant, self-obsessed, pretentious w***** like most of the Indian team. Its because their country treats them (and pays them) like kings when they dont deserve it, especially when you consider that nearly a billion people are living on literally nothing in their country.

Make them deserve their pay and their praise. Thats when true leaders are born...look at Clarke and Steve Waugh as examples.
 
A billion people living on literally nothing? Are you sure or are you making things up? As for Kholi the kid has the talent but yes he could learn a thing or three from the likes of Tendulkar on being humble. But wow India have found something special here, now all they need is some good fast bowlers.
 
Shadow Hunter said:
A billion people living on literally nothing? Are you sure or are you making things up? As for Kholi the kid has the talent but yes he could learn a thing or three from the likes of Tendulkar on being humble. But wow India have found something special here, now all they need is some good fast bowlers.
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1.2 billion people in India. Most in poverty.
 
And arent they trying to get those people out of poverty? Or do you think someone should wave the magic wand and everything will be right? I thought India was the third or fourth quickest growing economy?
 
Its the third quickest growing economy - 500 billionaires are Indian.

But the rich are getting richer and the poor getting poorer. In fact the divisions of wealth are growing in India. The Indian team gets paid a lot of money. Millions. Sri Lanka dont get paid at all. Yet the difference in spirit between these teams is obvious I think.

Anyway back to Kohli - if he can develop leadership skills he could be the livesaver for India with all their well-endorsed "greats" retiring.
 

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I agree that the young Indian players are spoilt and full of themselves, after Tendulkar leaves it will be the last of the gentlemen, one reason I respect Tendulkar is because he is humble no carry on etc.
 
Kohli looks like the next Indian making 200 runs in an ODI. His ODI record is easily the best of the guys averaging 50 considering where he is batting and his explosive ability.
 
I think he still has some work to do on his technique to stand up to test cricket - has a tendency to fall over and try work it thorugh the leg side instead of playing straight sometimes. Has a great eye to match, but the Aussies found him out a bit in the test series at short mid wicket.

Great temperament.
 
Was reading the other day that this could potentially have been Virat's last tour of Australia, Virat is 32 currently and India won't tour Australia again according to the FTP until 2024/25, by which time Virat will be 36 - generally retirement age for batsman.

Where does Virat rate amongst great overseas batsman? His test record in Aus (1274 runs @ 55.4 av, 6 100's) is similar to Tendulkar's who is considered by many to be the best overseas batsman of the modern era (1809 runs @ 53.2 av, 6 100's). Virat also has a far superiror ODI record with 5 ODI hundreds in Australia compared to Tendulkar's 1.

Speaking of hundreds, prior to this year I thought Kohli was a shoe-in to overtake Tendulkars record of 100 international 100's, but now I'm not so sure. Because of a mix of COVID and a slight dip in form, Kohli has scored 0 hundreds this year, the first time in his career. Currently sitting at 70 hundreds, Kohli would need to play for 5 more years and average 6 hundreds each year to get there, which now looks unlikely. If he can recapture his peak 2016-2019 form he might get there (7 100's in 2016, 11 100's in 2017, 11 100's in 2018 7 100's in 2019).
 
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Allezjuel said:
Was reading the other day that this could potentially have been Virat's last tour of Australia, Virat is 32 currently and India won't tour Australia again according to the FTP until 2024/25, by which time Virat will be 36 - generally retirement age for batsman.

Where does Virat rate amongst great overseas batsman? His test record in Aus (1274 runs @ 55.4 av, 6 100's) is similar to Tendulkar's who is considered by many to be the best overseas batsman of the modern era (1809 runs @ 53.2 av, 6 100's). Virat also has a far superiror ODI record with 5 ODI hundereds in Australia compared to Tendulkar's 1.

Speaking of hundreds, prior to this year I thought Kohli was a shoe-in to overtake Tendulkars record of 100 international 100's, but now I'm not so sure. Because of a mix of COVID and a slight dip in form, Kohli has scored 0 hundreds this year, the first time in his career. Currently sitting at 70 hundereds, Kohli would need to play for 5 more years and average 6 hundereds each year to get there, which now looks unlikely. If he can recapture his peak 2016-2019 form he might get there (7 100's in 2016, 11 100's in 2017, 11 100's in 2018 7 100's in 2019).
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Allezjuel said:
Was reading the other day that this could potentially have been Virat's last tour of Australia, Virat is 32 currently and India won't tour Australia again according to the FTP until 2024/25, by which time Virat will be 36 - generally retirement age for batsman.

Where does Virat rate amongst great overseas batsman? His test record in Aus (1274 runs @ 55.4 av, 6 100's) is similar to Tendulkar's who is considered by many to be the best overseas batsman of the modern era (1809 runs @ 53.2 av, 6 100's). Virat also has a far superiror ODI record with 5 ODI hundreds in Australia compared to Tendulkar's 1.

Speaking of hundreds, prior to this year I thought Kohli was a shoe-in to overtake Tendulkars record of 100 international 100's, but now I'm not so sure. Because of a mix of COVID and a slight dip in form, Kohli has scored 0 hundreds this year, the first time in his career. Currently sitting at 70 hundreds, Kohli would need to play for 5 more years and average 6 hundreds each year to get there, which now looks unlikely. If he can recapture his peak 2016-2019 form he might get there (7 100's in 2016, 11 100's in 2017, 11 100's in 2018 7 100's in 2019).
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Ken Barrington averaged amost 70 here over 10 Tests.
In fact the top 5 averages of visiting batsmen to play more than 10 tests here all belong to Englishmen - Hobbs, Sutcliffe, Hammond and Edrich are all on the list.
 
Allezjuel said:
Was reading the other day that this could potentially have been Virat's last tour of Australia, Virat is 32 currently and India won't tour Australia again according to the FTP until 2024/25, by which time Virat will be 36 - generally retirement age for batsman.

Where does Virat rate amongst great overseas batsman? His test record in Aus (1274 runs @ 55.4 av, 6 100's) is similar to Tendulkar's who is considered by many to be the best overseas batsman of the modern era (1809 runs @ 53.2 av, 6 100's). Virat also has a far superiror ODI record with 5 ODI hundreds in Australia compared to Tendulkar's 1.

Speaking of hundreds, prior to this year I thought Kohli was a shoe-in to overtake Tendulkars record of 100 international 100's, but now I'm not so sure. Because of a mix of COVID and a slight dip in form, Kohli has scored 0 hundreds this year, the first time in his career. Currently sitting at 70 hundreds, Kohli would need to play for 5 more years and average 6 hundreds each year to get there, which now looks unlikely. If he can recapture his peak 2016-2019 form he might get there (7 100's in 2016, 11 100's in 2017, 11 100's in 2018 7 100's in 2019).
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There is no way in hell CA will let four years go by without India (particularly Kohli) playing here. There will be a couple of limited over series in the interim most likely, along with the t20 World Cup.
 
Allezjuel said:
Was reading the other day that this could potentially have been Virat's last tour of Australia, Virat is 32 currently and India won't tour Australia again according to the FTP until 2024/25, by which time Virat will be 36 - generally retirement age for batsman.

Where does Virat rate amongst great overseas batsman? His test record in Aus (1274 runs @ 55.4 av, 6 100's) is similar to Tendulkar's who is considered by many to be the best overseas batsman of the modern era (1809 runs @ 53.2 av, 6 100's). Virat also has a far superiror ODI record with 5 ODI hundreds in Australia compared to Tendulkar's 1.

Speaking of hundreds, prior to this year I thought Kohli was a shoe-in to overtake Tendulkars record of 100 international 100's, but now I'm not so sure. Because of a mix of COVID and a slight dip in form, Kohli has scored 0 hundreds this year, the first time in his career. Currently sitting at 70 hundreds, Kohli would need to play for 5 more years and average 6 hundreds each year to get there, which now looks unlikely. If he can recapture his peak 2016-2019 form he might get there (7 100's in 2016, 11 100's in 2017, 11 100's in 2018 7 100's in 2019).
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With the track record of Indian cricket I don't see Kohli going until he decides, and with his drive I can see him pushing out past 40 if he can piece together decent form.
 
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There is no way in hell CA will let four years go by without India (particularly Kohli) playing here. There will be a couple of limited over series in the interim most likely, along with the t20 World Cup.
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They'll also make sure to have a test series. Too much $$$ involved.
 

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