WADA to appeal AFL Tribunal's Essendon ruling

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I am surprised people are surprised that WADA has appealed. In 2013, Foreign Affairs magazine ran a small story about the disquiet amongst international sports people about the Essendon case. Specifically the defense that seemed to be developing at the time that the players did not know anything. This has morphed into "we have do not know what was in the injection mix but we don't think it was illegal".

Either of those precedents is not palatable to WADA.

We have had a very parochial view of this case. It may not be in the headlines around the world but the sporting industry has been watching it and talking about it. There has been a view in world sport that if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat then it is a rat. The circumstantial ledger was heavily against Essendon - the lack of records, the sacking or moving on of just about every one involved, the inability of the club to say what had been administered and probably most damning the refusal to talk of the 3 key players - Danks, Charters and Alavi.

ASADA used very strong language in announcing it would not appeal. In "diplomacy' terms they effectively said "we know you are guilty, we just can't prove it".

My guess is they had spent the previous 21 days convincing WADA to appeal. At a level, I don't think WADA had much choice. To let this one through to the keeper would basically have set the precedent - if you can destroy the eveidence or simply not keep any records of what you take and we do not have the body, then you have a good chance of not being found guilty.

I think ASADA would have looked at an appeal and thought they would just be prolonging proceedings and stepped aside in favor of a better resourced and more powerful WADA. My guess is also that WADA can make it more difficult for the 3 key players to refuse to testify - they can destroy careers and ability to earn income on a global scale.
 

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Well hopefully it's all quite until the matter is heard.

Also creates further anger that the players won't release the findings, because its potentially another year until we see them. Yet they leaked them to the media
 
Ricmel said:
I am surprised people are surprised that WADA has appealed. In 2013, Foreign Affairs magazine ran a small story about the disquiet amongst international sports people about the Essendon case. Specifically the defense that seemed to be developing at the time that the players did not know anything. This has morphed into "we have do not know what was in the injection mix but we don't think it was illegal".

Either of those precedents is not palatable to WADA.

We have had a very parochial view of this case. It may not be in the headlines around the world but the sporting industry has been watching it and talking about it. There has been a view in world sport that if it looks like a rat and smells like a rat then it is a rat. The circumstantial ledger was heavily against Essendon - the lack of records, the sacking or moving on of just about every one involved, the inability of the club to say what had been administered and probably most damning the refusal to talk of the 3 key players - Danks, Charters and Alavi.

ASADA used very strong language in announcing it would not appeal. In "diplomacy' terms they effectively said "we know you are guilty, we just can't prove it".

My guess is they had spent the previous 21 days convincing WADA to appeal. At a level, I don't think WADA had much choice. To let this one through to the keeper would basically have set the precedent - if you can destroy the eveidence or simply not keep any records of what you take and we do not have the body, then you have a good chance of not being found guilty.

I think ASADA would have looked at an appeal and thought they would just be prolonging proceedings and stepped aside in favor of a better resourced and more powerful WADA. My guess is also that WADA can make it more difficult for the 3 key players to refuse to testify - they can destroy careers and ability to earn income on a global scale.
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Entirely this. WADA would have set an extremely dangerous precedent by avoiding this. Destroy your evidence, don't talk and you'll be safe. I would have been surprised if they didn't appeal.
 
interestedoz1 said:
imo it is still really weird that they are taking so long if the answer is just "no appeal"....

I actually expected a "no appeal" decision but that it would have been well and truly delivered by now.

To me this looks more like what would be happening if an appeal (or partial appeal) was going to occur...
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I don't normally quote myself in forums but.....from yesterday
 
Jedi Anderson said:
I don't mind your position - bit hard to "want to know the truth" and be smug though don't you reckon? The latter slightly contradicts the former
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Not at all.

For instance if the appeal fails I'll be smug about the explosion of crap in here from the usual suspects who have showed up telling us all we're screwed.

I'd still like to know the truth though.
 

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manboob said:
From memory CAS tend not to **** around. But who knows what their case load is right now.
I think that the whole process should (to all intents and purposes) be quicker than the AFL tribunal version given you have experts well versed in Swiss/CAS/WADA legislation dealing with the matter rather AFL goons.
You probably won't see the presentation of evidence taking 40 days.
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It would be very insightful to know exactly what and why they have challenged.
 
mxett said:
I wonder if Dank thinks CAS is also a kangaroo court? What will his excuse be this time?

Interesting times ahead. What is WADA's succes rate at CAS? 80% or something?
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I think Dank would think the High Court is a kangaroo court. The only court he would approve of is the Dank Court, where Dank is the judge, Dank is the prosecutor, Dank is the defence and 12 Danks are the jury.
 
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Hey boncer34 - what was it you were saying the other day about me waiting for WADA.

Now it is on.
 
Lots of chest beating and defence of Essendon in the media this morning. SEN running a poll is WADA appealling in the best interests of the game. Around 80% saying yes when I got out of my car. Good for the game? This is the point that all these stupid journos miss. This is a world issue, ie the integrity of sport, not some AFL issue.

And what people are failing to realise is that this matter is considerd so serious that the World body has had to step in and try an rectify what it percieves as a wrong for global
 

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