WADA to appeal AFL Tribunal's Essendon ruling

[Thrawn]

CAS division president selects the Chair

I hope they don't select one of those uncomfortable Ikea looking ones. They won't be comfortably satisfied otherwise.

 

[TerryWallet]

After just reading Chip's latest piece, it is clear David Jones forgot he was at the AFL Doping Tribunal and not a Criminal Court with regards "comfortable satisfaction"


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/spo...th-in-danks-word/story-e6frg7t6-1227353992603

 

[bing181]

After just reading Chip's latest piece, it is clear David Jones forgot he was at the AFL Doping Tribunal and not a Criminal Court with regards "comfortable satisfaction"

Exactly:

"If a tribunal cannot be satisfied that someone who admits to taking Hexarelin from a vial marked Hexarelin after being told by a sports scientist it is Hexarelin has indeed taken Hexarelin, the task confronting anti-doping investigators verges on the impossible.   The standard of proof required for an anti-doping offence is comfortable satisfaction. WADA believes the AFL tribunal demanded way too much satisfaction. A brief statement posted on the Court of Arbitration for Sport website makes this clear: “WADA requests that the CAS issue a new decision based on an appropriate burden of proof and evidentiary standards.”

 

[Armchair Critic]

Exactly:

"If a tribunal cannot be satisfied that someone who admits to taking Hexarelin from a vial marked Hexarelin after being told by a sports scientist it is Hexarelin has indeed taken Hexarelin, the task confronting anti-doping investigators verges on the impossible.   The standard of proof required for an anti-doping offence is comfortable satisfaction. WADA believes the AFL tribunal demanded way too much satisfaction. A brief statement posted on the Court of Arbitration for Sport website makes this clear: “WADA requests that the CAS issue a new decision based on an appropriate burden of proof and evidentiary standards.”

Who are you quoting. Is that just the article.

 

[bing181]

Who are you quoting. Is that just the article.

Chip's article quoted just above. Sorry, though it would have been obvious.

 

[Blueballs38]

Was this list on 'the mysterious spreadsheet'? The list of substances list prepared by Dank? The same bloke the Tribunal found was dodgy, decietful and fabricated a ton of stuff? The bloke that also allegedly forged Alavi and Willcourt's names and signatures on documents (the first purporting to claim TB-4 bought by Charters was only thymomodulin months after the fact, and the latter trying to obtain blood tests in another doctors name):



http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...gnature-on-peptide-letter-20140626-zsm7y.html

Read that above article very clearly mate. Dank ordered TB-4 from Charters. Charters obtains a drug he believes to be TB-4 in China from Biochem. Charters then supplies it to Alavi. Alavi then prepared this drug as if it were TB-4 and then hands it to Dank in unmarked vials.

Dank then injects EFC players with a drug the consent forms refer to as 'thymoisin' (a name the AFL Tribunal were confident Dank only used to refer to TB-4). Dank injects this 'thymoisin' into the players according to the instructions he obtained in an email weeks prior detailing how to administer TB-4.

A few weeks later, Dank starts telling stories that the drug in the vials he got from Alavi got 'spoiled by the sun' and he had to throw them out, and Alavis signature is turning up on forged documents (purportedly written by Alavi) claiming the drug bought by Charters was 'Thymomodulin'. Even more curiously, a picture of a labelled vial of 'thymomodulin' appears on the internet (a label that was clearly added by someone after the drug was compounded by Alavi and handed to Dank).

Dank then even arranged for 'off the record' blood tests to check his work, again trying to cover his tracks by forging Willcourts signature.

What appeals? CAS word is final.

And no, don't say the Swiss high court. Same chance as Hird was making it to the high court.

When will EFC supporters get it through their heads that now its OOGA BOOGA time?

 

[Blueballs38]

Exactly:

"If a tribunal cannot be satisfied that someone who admits to taking Hexarelin from a vial marked Hexarelin after being told by a sports scientist it is Hexarelin has indeed taken Hexarelin, the task confronting anti-doping investigators verges on the impossible.   The standard of proof required for an anti-doping offence is comfortable satisfaction. WADA believes the AFL tribunal demanded way too much satisfaction. A brief statement posted on the Court of Arbitration for Sport website makes this clear: “WADA requests that the CAS issue a new decision based on an appropriate burden of proof and evidentiary standards.”

In other words piss off AFL you have no integrity.

 

[Red Bull]

I hope not. The old fart's a freak with or without "help". Would be really sad to see that trashed.

A freaking drug fueled cheat !!
His 400 game milestone along with jabs brownlow will forever be tarnished ...

 

[Lion of Panjshir]

Exactly:

"If a tribunal cannot be satisfied that someone who admits to taking Hexarelin from a vial marked Hexarelin after being told by a sports scientist it is Hexarelin has indeed taken Hexarelin, the task confronting anti-doping investigators verges on the impossible.   The standard of proof required for an anti-doping offence is comfortable satisfaction. WADA believes the AFL tribunal demanded way too much satisfaction. A brief statement posted on the Court of Arbitration for Sport website makes this clear: “WADA requests that the CAS issue a new decision based on an appropriate burden of proof and evidentiary standards.”

Why ddidn't ASADA try to ping players for attempting to take TB-4?

 

[jenny61_99]

saying around Xmas. Appeals from either side will then lead it well into or past the 2016 season

There won't be appeals unless they **** up on points of law.

 

[Proper Gander]

That kid Proper Gander has gawn awfully quiet since WADA decided to test the AFL's integrity

Lurking still. Travelling for work & busy etc.

 

[mxett]

What appeals? CAS word is final.

And no, don't say the Swiss high court. Same chance as Hird was making it to the high court.

the media have reported that appeals are still available after CAS

 

[lones37]

They could appeal to the Swiss High Court, but they need to have grounds to do so.

Unless they can provide a good reason why the Swiss court will reject an appeal.

I read somewhere yesterday that the window is a very narrow one or something to that effect.

 

[Old Slugger]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

 

[jenny61_99]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

Oh look, you've done it here too in case we missed it on the other thread.

 

[Ancient Tiger]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

I think you will find that WADA had 21 days after the last day ASADA had to appeal, not from the date ASADA did say they won't appeal. Subtle, but probably explains the difference.

 

[Old Slugger]

Oh look, you've done it here too in case we missed it on the other thread.

So what

 

[jenny61_99]

So what

So, it's kind of spamming. And you are wrong.

 

[Boba Fetta]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

You've blown the case wide open!

Quick on the blower to Robbo!

 

[lones37]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

Never heard of GMT? The deadline was not Australian time.

And also by the time the media heard was 12 hours after the appeal was lodged, i think Tim Watson said it was lodged at 10pm melbourne time.

 

[jenny61_99]

Never heard of GMT? The deadline was not Australian time.

And also by the time the media heard was 12 hours after the appeal was lodged, i think Tim Watson said it was lodged at 10pm melbourne time.

It was still lodged on the 11th May. So according to old mate slugger, it's a day late. Problem is (for slugger at least)... it's not a day late.

 

[RIOLIUSTAR]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

Someone isn't coping

 

[Red Bull]

ASADA decided not to appeal on April 19th. Wada had 21 days from that date to appeal. That time ran out on 10th May. So how can they appeal after that date?

Buckle up Slugger ,
There's no broom and carpet in Switzerland ...

 

[morgoth]

No wonder the players and Essendon are in so much trouble.

Apparently some idiot lawyer who is representing one of these parties is in the media today stating the AFL should walk away from the WADA code because they are not acting in the interest of the AFL. Seriously? Show me in the WADA charter where it states that they need to act in the interests of the sport under investigation? Nope, they only exist for one reason, to stop the use of PED's in sport. For a lawyer who is a so called specialist in this area to make this comment just highlights what a bloody fool he is.

And the media fail to call him out once again showing the lack of the knowledge of the most basic workings of WADA and why it exists.

PS Apparently if the AFL does, they lose all Federal Govt funding and that means ALL, at the grass roots also. Would cripple AFL at a time when it is under threat from Soccer.

 

[jenny61_99]

This is worth a read:

http://www.centrostudisport.it/PDF/TAS_CAS_ULTIMO/64.pdf