Current WAR CRIMES Israel - Hamas - Hezbollah - Houthis

[Lunchlady Doris]

The word of America means nothing.

But the word of a terrorist organisation like Hezbollah is iron clad. They always take responsibility for attacks. Never change guys

Thought you had me on ignore?

Yes, it means nothing. The US are the only country outside of Israel to even agree that the Golan Heights are not actually just occupied Syria.

The administration is hopelessly captured, it's pretty obvious. 58 standing ovations for a war criminal. Blinken has completely ignored his own department's thorough list of war crimes and IHL breaches, with staff quitting in protest. You're only kidding yourself if you can't acknowledge the US lack of neutrality on this conflict.

 

[Bostonian]

You just linked me an article explaining how Hezbollah was trying to split the Druze and listing its Druze political allies? Why would Hezbollah hate Druze?

It's not been confirmed that this came from Lebanon.

They hate them because they see the Druze as heretics.


"The Druze broke away from the Ismaili Muslims in the 11th century; they are regarded as heretical by the Muslim community at large".

 

[Bostonian]

Of course there are Druze that are part of the IDF. Many Druze are strong supporters of Israel.

Many of them in the Golan Heights still believe they are Syrian and are loyal to that country.

As I said, there are videos of Druze leaders insulting Smotrich, calling him murderer, and telling him to leave. It's not as straightforward as you seem to believe.

And they let the Israeli opposition speak unhindered.

Their biggest problem isn't with Israel itself.

 

[Jazny]

Thought you had me on ignore?

Yes, it means nothing. The US are the only country outside of Israel to even agree that the Golan Heights are not actually just occupied Syria.

The administration is hopelessly captured, it's pretty obvious. 58 standing ovations for a war criminal. Blinken has completely ignored his own department's thorough list of war crimes and IHL breaches, with staff quitting in protest. You're only kidding yourself if you can't acknowledge the US lack of neutrality on this conflict.

But Hezbollah's denial is believable

I am not saying either is right, we don't publicly know for sure. But if I had to bet my bigfooty account on how confident I, I would back the US every day over a terrorist organisation. You want to make the bet? Or are you scared to actually have consequences for your world view being wrong yet again?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

But Hezbollah's denial is believable

I am not saying either is right, we don't publicly know for sure. But if I had to bet my bigfooty account on how confident I, I would back the US every day over a terrorist organisation. You want to make the bet? Or are you scared to actually have consequences for your world view being wrong yet again?

Again? The US are the world's biggest terrorist organisation, so you're a bit confused here.

 

[Jazny]

Again? The US are the world's biggest terrorist organisation, so you're a bit confused here.

Am I? Account bet then?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Am I? Account bet then?

What a childish notion.

I wonder why this strike on a football field gets so much attention, when on the same day Israel struck Palestinians playing football at a school in Deir al-Balah killing 30 and wounding 100, many of them children.

Why no posts about that Jazny?

 

[Jazny]

What a childish notion.

I knew you wouldn't. Just testing if you actually believe any of the nonsense you come out with. You clearly don't. You wouldnt say half the things you say if there was actual consequences for being wrong.

It's funny the same person who calls the US the biggest terrorist organisation in the world is now concerned about childishness.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

I knew you wouldn't. Just testing if you actually believe any of the nonsense you come out with. You clearly don't. You wouldnt say half the things you say if there was actual consequences for being wrong.

Grow up - we're talking about a 75 year genocide - a bigfooty account is not a consequence.

It's funny the same person who calls the US the biggest terrorist organisation in the world is now concerned about childishness.

Are you actually that naive to believe the US have with everybody's best interests at heart? Some sort of global peace force?

I honesly thought people grew out of the Hollywood good guys stuff once they actually noticed world events. You are truly living in a fantasy land.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Big chance this man becomes the most powerful person in the world later this year:

 

[Jazny]

Are you actually that naive to believe the US have with everybody's best interests at heart? Some sort of global peace force?

I honesly thought people grew out of the Hollywood good guys stuff once they actually noticed world events. You are truly living in a fantasy land.

You keep saying words like "grow up" and "childish" while having the most "I am 14 and I just read r/politics for the first time" takes like "America is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world". And then when I disagreed with that you then characterize me as thinking that America is a global peace force with everybody's best interest at heart. So mature and grown up.

The point is that America, for it's faults, is infinitely more trustworthy than Hezbollah - who are terrorists. Even you know this, hence why as soon as their is even a hint of consequence for you having to speak the truth, you get scared because you know its far more likely that America is telling the truth than Hezbollah even if you don't want to admit it.

 

[DapperDon]

You keep saying words like "grow up" and "childish" while having the most "I am 14 and I just read r/politics for the first time" takes like "America is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world". And then when I disagreed with that you then characterize me as thinking that America is a global peace force with everybody's best interest at heart. So mature and grown up.

The point is that America, for it's faults, is infinitely more trustworthy than Hezbollah - who are terrorists. Even you know this, hence why as soon as their is even a hint of consequence for you having to speak the truth, you get scared because you know its far more likely that America is telling the truth than Hezbollah.

Over the decades, who has been in more wars and terrorised more nations?

Hezbollah or U.S.A?

Just because you're on the side of U.S.A (As we all are in Australia) doesn't mean the people who's countries they bombed wern't terrorised. Now i'm not saying Hezbollah didn't do the latest bombing, but to just blindly believe U.S.A is just as stupid.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

You keep saying words like "grow up" and "childish" while having the most "I am 14 and I just read r/politics for the first time" takes like "America is the biggest terrorist organisation in the world". And then when I disagreed with that you then characterize me as thinking that America is a global peace force with everybody's best interest at heart. So mature and grown up.

The point is that America, for it's faults, is infinitely more trustworthy than Hezbollah - who are terrorists. Even you know this, hence why as soon as their is even a hint of consequence for you having to speak the truth, you get scared because you know its far more likely that America is telling the truth than Hezbollah even if you don't want to admit it.

Americans do terror attacks on their own schools. Almost daily.

They have more guns than people!

 

[Jazny]

Over the decades, who has been in more wars and terrorised more nations?

That's not what terrorism means.

Hezbollah or U.S.A?

Just because you're on the side of U.S.A (As we all are in Australia) doesn't mean the people who's countries they bombed wern't terrorised. Now i'm not saying Hezbollah didn't do the latest bombing, but to just blindly believe U.S.A is just as stupid.

Nobody is talking about blindly believing the USA. The claim made by Lunchlady Dorris, which he wont stand behind, is that the US's word on this means nothing. This was after posting this:

lol - Hezbollah have claimed responsibility for every strike they've made, even when civilians are impacted, justifying it by citing IDF activity.

This one they have denied emphatically. There is no reason for them to kill syrian civilians. This does give Israel handy justification to escalate things though.

The US confirming anything is less than worthless. Lets wait and see.

He is implying that Israel and the US are lying about Hezbollah being responsible for the attack. He is also claiming Hezbollah's denial has any merit. So bizarre to be be claiming US's word means nothing while giving any credence to Hezbollah.

What seems the most likely at the moment was it was a Hezbollah misfired rocket, I dont think they would have deliberately targeted those children, but I guess time will tell.

 

[DapperDon]

That's not what terrorism means.

Nobody is talking about blindly believing the USA. The claim made by Lunchlady Dorris, which he wont stand behind, is that the US's word on this means nothing. This was after posting this:

He is implying that Israel and the US are lying about Hezbollah being responsible for the attack. He is also claiming Hezbollah's denial has any merit. So bizarre to be be claiming US's word means nothing while giving any credence to Hezbollah.

What seems the most likely at the moment was it was a Hezbollah misfired rocket, I dont think they would have deliberately targeted those children, but I guess time will tell.

No, that's not what you think terrorism doesn't mean. People from an outside country flying planes and drones overhead dropping bombs to "defeat terrorism" isn't far off people from an outside country planting bombs now is it.

Secondly, what LD was getting at is believing anything coming out of Israels and USA's mouths about this 'war' and who did what is fairly moronic. They have done nothing but tell lies since Oct 7, so believing them on this isn't something you just take as fact because Hezbollah are just as bad.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

While fighting a war …being frowned upon or not is probably something that wouldn’t affect too many decisions.
What do you think their rationale behind their action was ?

Occam's razor says they want to make it impossible for civilians to live there even post any ceasefire so they can annex the land. Pretty obvious, it's why they've been destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying hospitals, universities etc as well as arbitrarily slaughtering masses of civilians.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

But Hamas would surrender if everyone was dying of thirst. They aren’t animals.

Are you saying that the ends justify the means? That it's ok to kill civilians by the 10s or 100s of 1000s if it means Hamas will surrender? Pretty slippery slope you're on their.

 

[Jazny]

Are you saying that the ends justify the means? That it's ok to kill civilians by the 10s or 100s of 1000s if it means Hamas will surrender? Pretty slippery slope you're on their.

A slippery slope towards thinking like Hamas.

 

[ZEV]

A slippery slope towards thinking like Hamas.

Or Hezbollah.

Tragically the world and many of the Pro Hamas/Hezbollah/anti democracy posters on this forum have forgotten the tens of thousands of children needlessly slaughtered in the Syrian Civil War.

 

[Boston tiger]

Are you saying that the ends justify the means? That it's ok to kill civilians by the 10s or 100s of 1000s if it means Hamas will surrender? Pretty slippery slope you're on their.

When is it ok to kill civilians?

 

[Boston tiger]

Are you saying that the ends justify the means? That it's ok to kill civilians by the 10s or 100s of 1000s if it means Hamas will surrender? Pretty slippery slope you're on their.

What do you think their rationale was behind destroying the reservoir?

 

[Boston tiger]

Occam's razor says they want to make it impossible for civilians to live there even post any ceasefire so they can annex the land. Pretty obvious, it's why they've been destroying civilian infrastructure, destroying hospitals, universities etc as well as arbitrarily slaughtering masses of civilians.

Doesn’t Occam’s razor choose the simpler option ?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

A slippery slope towards thinking like Hamas.

Yes, or the Israeli government/IDF

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Or Hezbollah.

Tragically the world and many of the Pro Hamas/Hezbollah/anti democracy posters on this forum have forgotten the tens of thousands of children needlessly slaughtered in the Syrian Civil War.

Tragically the pro-Israel supporters on here are turning a blind eye to the genocide currently being carried out in Gaza and the West Bank.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

When is it ok to kill civilians?

You are the one excusing it, you tell me?