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[Lockhart Road]

Agreed LR.

On a much lesser note: orientated.

I have always been unsure whether it might be oriented.

As a wordsmith of some repute, which is it?



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I’ve always used ‘orientated’ but to make certain I looked it up.

Sure enough, the longer spelling is of UK origin while ‘oriented’ is American syllable-saving.

In international English, which I guess applies in Hong Kong post 1997, either is correct.

 

[Jason K]

People are scared (not me), fear leads to hatred. This needs to be handled with kit gloves

 

[Port Woolwich]

People are scared (not me), fear leads to hatred. This needs to be handled with kit gloves

Fear Leads to Anger...
Anger Leads to Hatred...
Hatred Leads to...

 

[1954]

I believe it's likely that given reports China's inaction ( some could call it subterfuge ) during the early days of the virus in that country in which it allowed many of its citizens, including from the epicentre in Wuhan, to move around an unsuspecting world unchecked, could see people world wide boycotting Chinese products, even long after a prevention ( cure) has been developed.

How much of an effect that would have eg on MG sales in this country, and potentially the PAFC's sponsorship is of course unknown.

 

[Papa G]

I believe it's likely that given reports China's inaction ( some could call it subterfuge ) during the early days of the virus in that country in which it allowed many of its citizens, including from the epicentre in Wuhan, to move around an unsuspecting world unchecked, could see people world wide boycotting Chinese products, even long after a prevention ( cure) has been developed.

How much of an effect that would have eg on MG sales in this country, and potentially the PAFC's sponsorship is of course unknown.

Australia's economic recovery from this shit still massively hinges on China. I have wondered what the world's response to China will be to all of this, and there will be some repercussions, especially from our Orange mate across the Pacific, but you'd have to think that pragmatism will win out. If, and it's a big IF, China continues to control their outbreak, they will be the quickest country to emerge from this crisis. Japan, like Australia, is an island nation and I think they too can probably get this under control quicker than most. These 2 countries are by far and away our biggest export /trading partners and I see those 2 plus us possibly be the best placed to emerge from this the quickest and recover. Australia will have to be very careful on the rhetoric going forward.

 

[Grave Danger]

I’ve always used ‘orientated’ but to make certain I looked it up.

Sure enough, the longer spelling is of UK origin while ‘oriented’ is American syllable-saving.

In international English, which I guess applies in Hong Kong post 1997, either is correct.

Summary

While there isn’t a functional difference between these words, there is clear winner in the orientated vs. oriented debate.

Oriented is much more widely used and is strongly preferred.

Orientated is not incorrect but is widely shunned.


That settles it - it's 'orientated' for me!

 

[1954]

Australia's economic recovery from this shit still massively hinges on China. I have wondered what the world's response to China will be to all of this, and there will be some repercussions, especially from our Orange mate across the Pacific, but you'd have to think that pragmatism will win out. If, and it's a big IF, China continues to control their outbreak, they will be the quickest country to emerge from this crisis. Japan, like Australia, is an island nation and I think they too can probably get this under control quicker than most. These 2 countries are by far and away our biggest export /trading partners and I see those 2 plus us possibly be the best placed to emerge from this the quickest and recover. Australia will have to be very careful on the rhetoric going forward.

The key to a world wide economic recovery could very much hinge on Trump's rhetoric with the Chinese, if he goes full redneck yank ( which is unfortunately possible ), that could set things back years.
More than ever now is the time for diplomacy, not for the worlds two most powerful countries to be at each others throats.

 

[bomberclifford]

Australia's economic recovery from this shit still massively hinges on China. I have wondered what the world's response to China will be to all of this, and there will be some repercussions, especially from our Orange mate across the Pacific, but you'd have to think that pragmatism will win out. If, and it's a big IF, China continues to control their outbreak, they will be the quickest country to emerge from this crisis. Japan, like Australia, is an island nation and I think they too can probably get this under control quicker than most. These 2 countries are by far and away our biggest export /trading partners and I see those 2 plus us possibly be the best placed to emerge from this the quickest and recover. Australia will have to be very careful on the rhetoric going forward.

That last bit is why Trump is pushing hard to exit these restrictions quickly. The last thing the US wants is for a major economic power to have a head start in the great reboot. He's already shown that he's prepared to risk American lives to ensure this doesn't happen.

Also... Russia. 9 deaths? Tell 'im he's dreaming.

 

[Jason K]

Sorry Lockhart Road , I intended to bump this thread to invoke conversation as to whether this virus would affect our clubs china stategy and our relationships with chinese businesses. Not to be a smart ass or expecting you to have answers and certainly not to lead trump haters to dump their swill here.

 

[VineValerian]

Sorry Lockhart Road , I intended to bump this thread to invoke conversation as to whether this virus would affect our clubs china stategy and our relationships with chinese businesses. Not to be a smart ass or expecting you to have answers and certainly not to lead trump haters to dump their swill here.

Trump haters (most people) - feel free to dump as much swill as you like!

 

[Jason K]

Surely there are other platforms to talk about world politics?

And just because they are loudest, doesn't mean they are majority

 

[Enviable Tradition]

At the end of all this there will be Chinese billionaires wanting to regain goodwill and invest in Australia.

Hopefully we are at the forefront of their mind for the former.

 

[Grave Danger]

At the end of all this there will be Chinese billionaires wanting to regain goodwill and invest in Australia.

Hopefully we are at the forefront of their mind for the former.

...with the FIRB looking over every investment, even if below the current $ limits - I wonder if they'll regard a little blue collar footy club from Alberton as a "sensitive" industry sector.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

...with the FIRB looking over every investment, even if below the current $ limits - I wonder if they'll regard a little blue collar footy club from Alberton as a "sensitive" industry sector.

This story is from Sunday night. Ex SAS Captain and hair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Liberal MP Andrew Hastie making sure Chinese wont raid us.

I assume the same attitude will be applied to Canadian, USA, European, Middle East and Asian investment/capital/hedge/pension/mutual funds and billionaires.

Clampdown on foreign investments to prevent international raids on Australian assets

All foreign investments in Australia, regardless of value, will now require approval in a Federal Government move designed to prevent international raids on struggling companies hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

www.abc.net.au

All foreign investment in Australia will now require approval in a Federal Government move designed to prevent international raids on struggling companies hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

At the moment, foreign investors need to apply for approval before purchasing land or assets in Australia if the value is over a certain threshold. For private investors from free-trading agreement partner countries, that limit ranges from $50 million to $1.1 billion, for land and non-land proposals.

But from Sunday, the Foreign Investment Review Board will scrutinise every single purchase application, regardless of its value. The ABC understands members of the Government believe the changes will prevent China from taking advantage of Australia's weak financial position to snap-up strategically important assets.

The Federal Government stated the move was not an investment freeze, and Australia recognised investment during the coronavirus outbreak was still beneficial. But it said the temporary measures were necessary to safeguard the national interest, as the pandemic continued to wreak havoc on the economy and businesses.

Chair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Liberal MP Andrew Hastie, said the move was designed to protect Australian companies from predatory behaviour. "Aussie businesses have taken some big hits through the COVID-19 pandemic," he said. "We need to protect our most vulnerable from authoritarian states angling for bargains through their business fronts.

"There won't be a fire sale on our watch."

The change comes as the Federal Government prepares to unveil the details of its third economic rescue package, which is expected within days.

 

[Lockhart Road]

How Bizarre How Bizarre

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/eddie-on-the-future-of-the-state-league-competitions-159071

At the sixteen-second mark of the above Triple M Hot Breakfast audio clip, Melbourne, today, 31 March 2020, Eddie The E. steamrolls over the speaker introducing the topic of the future of state leagues in general and Port Adelaide in particular. It’s as if The E. has this rehearsed, has been saving it up, counting down: ten seconds, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, GO!

“ - just hold on that one ... that was a big one when Port Adelaide said for the second time ( ... ... ) they came out yesterday basically saying that Port Magpies could go. Now they ... they tried to get rid of them about ten years ago ... this is 150th anniversary ... and of course they have been having World War Five with us every other week about wearing their Prison Bar jumper. So to ... to say they were up to rissole the Port Adelaide Magpies I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that.”

What does PAFC director Cos Cardone do now?

What does Cardone do when his employer insults him by broadcasting this sort of tommyrot, this schoolyard bully sort of propaganda, about the AFL club on whose board Cardone, E.’s own CEO, sits.

According to precedent, Cardone does nothing. Says nothing. Retains his seat on the PAFC board.

Koch, who appointed Cardone in October 2012, does nothing. Says nothing. Lets Cardone retain his seat, unchallenged, on the PAFC board.

It is a seat at our board room table gone to waste. Worse, it undermines our Club. That seat is no trophy. It could have been filled, for the past seven-plus years, by a director who could have, should have, would have contributed beneficially to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Cardone’s risk-averse, China-averse, behaviour across his seven-plus trophy years has, by my feel, been better done without.

Indeed a bizarre situation - one that does not make this member of the Port community at all proud. Just the opposite.

 

[Magus]

... and of course they have been having World War Five with us every other week about wearing their Prison Bar jumper.

That's a good thing at least.

 

[fireboy]

Turning the screws on Cos Cardone and current board members is justified, their required right of reply is much anticipated.
Who in Adelaides'media has the gonads to run this ??

Holly says Hello.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

This story is from Sunday night. Ex SAS Captain and hair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Liberal MP Andrew Hastie making sure Chinese wont raid us.

I assume the same attitude will be applied to Canadian, USA, European, Middle East and Asian investment/capital/hedge/pension/mutual funds and billionaires.

Clampdown on foreign investments to prevent international raids on Australian assets

All foreign investments in Australia, regardless of value, will now require approval in a Federal Government move designed to prevent international raids on struggling companies hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

www.abc.net.au

All foreign investment in Australia will now require approval in a Federal Government move designed to prevent international raids on struggling companies hit by the coronavirus pandemic.

At the moment, foreign investors need to apply for approval before purchasing land or assets in Australia if the value is over a certain threshold. For private investors from free-trading agreement partner countries, that limit ranges from $50 million to $1.1 billion, for land and non-land proposals.

But from Sunday, the Foreign Investment Review Board will scrutinise every single purchase application, regardless of its value. The ABC understands members of the Government believe the changes will prevent China from taking advantage of Australia's weak financial position to snap-up strategically important assets.

The Federal Government stated the move was not an investment freeze, and Australia recognised investment during the coronavirus outbreak was still beneficial. But it said the temporary measures were necessary to safeguard the national interest, as the pandemic continued to wreak havoc on the economy and businesses.

Chair of the Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security, Liberal MP Andrew Hastie, said the move was designed to protect Australian companies from predatory behaviour. "Aussie businesses have taken some big hits through the COVID-19 pandemic," he said. "We need to protect our most vulnerable from authoritarian states angling for bargains through their business fronts.

The change comes as the Federal Government prepares to unveil the details of its third economic rescue package, which is expected within days.

The more people try to block Chinese ownership the more they need the goodwill Port can provide.

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[Lockhart Road]

The more people try to block Chinese ownership the more they need the goodwill Port can provide.

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Concur ... provided that by ‘they’ you mean the Chinese enterprises seeking to invest.

Indeed the Club can provide the goodwill. We have to get better at it, have to grow our football media dept into one that covers all aspects, including commercial, of communication, publicity and indirect marketing.

This era of frugality is where the AFL club that makes best use of its volunteer specialists will come out in front.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Turning the screws on Cos Cardone and current board members is justified, their required right of reply is much anticipated.
Who in Adelaides'media has the gonads to run this ??

Holly says Hello.

We need to see your acerbic pen more often fireboy.

 

[tribey]

How Bizarre How Bizarre

https://www.triplem.com.au/story/eddie-on-the-future-of-the-state-league-competitions-159071

At the sixteen-second mark of the above Triple M Hot Breakfast audio clip, Melbourne, today, 31 March 2020, Eddie The E. steamrolls over the speaker introducing the topic of the future of state leagues in general and Port Adelaide in particular. It’s as if The E. has this rehearsed, has been saving it up, counting down: ten seconds, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, GO!

“ - just hold on that one ... that was a big one when Port Adelaide said for the second time ( ... ... ) they came out yesterday basically saying that Port Magpies could go. Now they ... they tried to get rid of them about ten years ago ... this is 150th anniversary ... and of course they have been having World War Five with us every other week about wearing their Prison Bar jumper. So to ... to say they were up to rissole the Port Adelaide Magpies I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that.”

What does PAFC director Cos Cardone do now?

What does Cardone do when his employer insults him by broadcasting this sort of tommyrot, this schoolyard bully sort of propaganda, about the AFL club on whose board Cardone, E.’s own CEO, sits.

According to precedent, Cardone does nothing. Says nothing. Retains his seat on the PAFC board.

Koch, who appointed Cardone in October 2012, does nothing. Says nothing. Lets Cardone retain his seat, unchallenged, on the PAFC board.

It is a seat at our board room table gone to waste. Worse, it undermines our Club. That seat is no trophy. It could have been filled, for the past seven-plus years, by a director who could have, should have, would have contributed beneficially to the Port Adelaide Football Club.

Cardone’s risk-averse, China-averse, behaviour across his seven-plus trophy years has, by my feel, been better done without.

Indeed a bizarre situation - one that does not make this member of the Port community at all proud. Just the opposite.

Wish I’d seen this before I mentioned it in the Gen AFL Thread.

He and Darcy’s (“Port Magpies people have never truly embraced Port Power”) drivel nearly caused my eyes to boil.

 

[Lockhart Road]

Wish I’d seen this before I mentioned it in the Gen AFL Thread.

He and Darcy’s (“Port Magpies people have never truly embraced Port Power”) drivel nearly caused my eyes to boil.

The voices other than E.’s were sprouting plain ignorance, when they weren’t licking E.’s backside. One even accused the Port Adelaide Magpies of winning forty-five SANFL flags.

McGuire, on the other hand, knows what he’s doing, knows what he’s saying, driven as he is in a case like this by downright mischief ... which he is allowed to get away with.

Our Club has nobody at the top with passion, nous or balls enough to put up a fight. In AFL House our ‘leaders’ are looked down upon as those field mice from South Australia.

World War Five? Good one Eddie.

A few central war cabinets, panels and committees have been set up to combat the ramifications of the virus. Our chairman is on none of them, not even mentioned, not even close. Our disappearing CEO has been acknowledged with a stool in the corner of the room of the committee whose task is to brainstorm what the SANFL et al might look like in future. So fitting. Can’t get less significant than that.

Oh yes. Our Club’s leaders. They do us so proud.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Have to split my likes

The voices other than E.’s were sprouting plain ignorance, when they weren’t licking E.’s backside. One even accused the Port Adelaide Magpies of winning forty-five SANFL flags.

McGuire, on the other hand, knows what he’s doing, knows what he’s saying, driven as he is in a case like this by downright mischief ... which he is allowed to get away with.

Our Club has nobody at the top with passion, nous or balls enough to put up a fight. In AFL House our ‘leaders’ are looked down upon as those field mice from South Australia.

World War Five? Good one Eddie.

A few central war cabinets, panels and committees have been set up to combat the ramifications of the virus. Our chairman is on none of them, not even mentioned, not even close. Our disappearing CEO has been acknowledged with a stool in the corner of the room of the committee whose task is to brainstorm what the SANFL et al might look like in future. So fitting. Can’t get less significant than that.

Oh yes. Our Club’s leaders. They do us so proud.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Port Adelaide’s China experiment is on shaky ground, with no guarantee the club will play there again.
With its scheduled match against St Kilda in May cancelled because of the COVID-19 pandemic, China being the epicentre of the virus and the Power – like all AFL clubs – in financial peril because of football’s shutdown, chairman David Koch conceded the ambitious three-year venture was in jeopardy.

“If we do the game again at the same time (May), it’s well over a year away and a lot can happen in a year, so I’m not sure.

“The thing that hasn’t changed is that China is still Australia’s biggest customer and biggest trading partner, so it’s still a significant part of the Australian business, political and economic sector.’’

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[Tibbs]

I believe it's likely that given reports China's inaction ( some could call it subterfuge ) during the early days of the virus in that country in which it allowed many of its citizens, including from the epicentre in Wuhan, to move around an unsuspecting world unchecked....

I know that Trump & many in the world blame China for this outbreak, but the reality is China is China. The Politburo have always controlled the media, and orchestrated the rhetoric. The world has been happy to do business with that same entity, Trump has, Australia has, and so has Port. The very thing that accelerated the rapid spread of the disease worldwide, the massive Chinese population and their worldwide movement, is the very thing that many of the worlds economies rely upon, including Australia with the tens of thousands of Chinese students we encourage to come splash their cash here! The world cant have it both ways!

Also the massive hypocrisy of it all! The Trump led brigade demanding punishment for the Chinese "inaction" in early January, when upwards of two months later, with the world fully aware that we had a worldwide pandemic on our hands, we have Trump saying America is fine, and Boris Johnson, deliberately shaking hands With Covid patients.

Hypocrites AND idiots!

IMO Port are in a great position now to leverage off our Chinese connection. While the world is busy finger-pointing, we should be going all-out on China! They will be looking to improve their name and brand after this drama, and we must be there with bells on to facilitate it!