Society/Culture The Welcome/Acknowledgment of Country thread

[Bianconeri]

So that means he shouldn't have told the truth?

Firstly, the very act of him accepting money from white people to welcome white people contradicts his truth.

Secondly, it means he should have picked a better platform to tell the truth or at least considered his audience when attempting educate. And when telling the truth it’s best to stick to the accepted figures instead of making up your own as it leads people to call into question the rest of your statement.

 

[ElectricG]

I think it actually could have been a decent tool worded slightly better: the volume of times some idiot online says ‘why am I being welcomed to my own country, I’m as Australian as he is’

What was his actual rebuttal to that? He seemed to call it out and then confirm it in the next breath.

 

[Bostonian]

It should be something used for major events to welcome people from around the world.

When you use it any chance you get it loses any kind of meaning.

 

[RAPPA]

Did somebody say KFC?

 

[Bartel84]

No problem with it here. Truth telling at its finest

 

[Bostonian]

No problem with it here. Truth telling at its finest

Except the bit about 250,000.

Fabrication.

 

[Hawksboy72]

I always thought BC was a reference to Black Caviar....probably time to get re-educated.

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[Bostonian]

I always thought BC was a reference to Black Caviar....probably time to get re-educated.

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RIP

 

[RUNVS]

As much as I am sympathetic to what the Aboriginal people have been through it is pretty unfair to blame Cook. Given the era of exploration from the European powers and then colonising the places they found a European colony was going to be coming to Australia one way or another. It isn't like if Cook never existed the Aboriginal people would still be living as they were the previous 60,000 years in 2024.

 

[LordLucifer]

I think it actually could have been a decent tool worded slightly better: the volume of times some idiot online says ‘why am I being welcomed to my own country, I’m as Australian as he is’

I liked that someone actually explained quite clearly that it’s not a welcome to Australia it’s a local welcome to tribal country in that particular area for anyone visiting. He worded it and presented it a little poorly though

The way he explained it made a lot of sense and gave clarity to why they do it, that part of his speech was terrific.

The rest ...... ??

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Did somebody say KFC?

I don’t care… I love it

 

[Lingsface]

I always thought BC was a reference to Black Caviar....probably time to get re-educated.

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Ben Cousins

 

[GhostofJimJess]

The guy who did the 'welcome to country' ceremony prior to the Giants V Lions game semi-final seemed to use the platform more as a divisive political tool than a genuine & proud showing of the way the indigenous people have done things for many years.

There has been a lot of condemnation for his comments, especially the "BC ...... before Cook" part with observers in the media calling for this stuff to stop. The irony was that he introduced himself as a "cultural educator from the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council" but he was not culturally sensitive at all.

“A Welcome to Country is not a ceremony we’ve invented to cater for white people”.

If these indigenous leaders are going to use primetime TV as an opportunity to be somewhat insulting & controversial like he did, should the AFL discontinue the practice ??

Take it to Facebook mate. The comments section on there usually respond well to this sort of thing.

 

[Lingsface]

As much as I am sympathetic to what the Aboriginal people have been through it is pretty unfair to blame Cook. Given the era of exploration from the European powers and then colonising the places they found a European colony was going to be coming to Australia one way or another. It isn't like if Cook never existed the Aboriginal people would still be living as they were the previous 60,000 years in 2024.

And another captain cook brought us so much joy with multiple Ashes losses.

 

[LordLucifer]

This is gonna end well.

Rather sad that you want to completely dismiss this because you are either too immature or too narrow-minded to discuss the topic in a sensible manner.

 

[LordLucifer]

Take it to Facebook mate. The comments section on there usually respond well to this sort of thing.

No thanks, I'm quite comfortable putting it out there for others to discuss plus provide some alternative views on the matter.

 

[Chief]

Rather sad that you want to completely dismiss this because you are either too immature or too narrow-minded to discuss the topic in a sensible manner.

Look at the first sentence of your post.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

The guy who did the 'welcome to country' ceremony prior to the Giants V Lions game semi-final seemed to use the platform more as a divisive political tool than a genuine & proud showing of the way the indigenous people have done things for many years.

There has been a lot of condemnation for his comments, especially the "BC ...... before Cook" part with observers in the media calling for this stuff to stop. The irony was that he introduced himself as a "cultural educator from the Metropolitan Local Aboriginal Land Council" but he was not culturally sensitive at all.

“A Welcome to Country is not a ceremony we’ve invented to cater for white people”.

If these indigenous leaders are going to use primetime TV as an opportunity to be somewhat insulting & controversial like he did, should the AFL discontinue the practice ??

He was simply trying to clear up the misconception that the WTC is “welcoming people to their own country”

Could he have worded it better and come across as less abrasive? Absolutely

But i thought it was pretty clear what he was trying to get across.

 

[Cleric]

The welcome to country has been overused to the point to where people see it as an annoyance and virtue signalling.
First, you don't need to welcome people to their own country. To even think that is the thing to do is ridiculous.

I don't have an issue with it been used in Government functions when welcoming foreign dignitaries, or overseas sporting teams who have come to play against Australia.
That's the extent it should be used it.

Its just another example of the AFL pandering for woke virtue points.

 

[Chief]

First, you don't need to welcome people to their own country.

 

[AndyLucimitis]

I'm as woke and leftie as they come but I think the Welcome to Country AND the National Anthem should be shelved and only done on Grand Final day (and maybe Anzac Day Coll v Ess).

 

[Bostonian]

I think signs on roads saying "Welcome to insert tribe Country" would be more effective.

Why is doing it at a football game any more important than people crossing in and out of different tribal areas daily?

Seems like it's a nice little earner for the tribes that have a major sporting ground on their patch and the rest of the tribes miss out on the gravy train.

 

[Bostonian]

Buy signal for Shiba Inu?

 

[Cleric]

 

[QuietB]

Whilst getting paid mostly by white people to an audience of mainly white people.

The other way of looking at it is an Aboriginal man still had the generosity to welcome mostly white people to his traditional country - notwithstanding those white peoples ancestors are responsible for killing his own ancestors - and the white men do not even have the generosity of spirit to accept this welcome.

Instead the white man will just bitch and moan about who is paying, how much did it cost, why do I have to listen to this wah wah wah

If it is really that offensive ignore it and go to the fridge and get a beer or something - it is not that hard.

I am going to take a guess that you are the exact same person that will endlessly bitch and moan if someone does not stand for the anthem, or someone does not remove their hat, or someone takes a knee.

Which would make you a complete hypocrite.