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Only kicked the one goal, the free Ryan gave away for holding when Pearce was coming back with the flight to assist.
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Only kicked the one goal, the free Ryan gave away for holding when Pearce was coming back with the flight to assist.
Was somehow listed in the best players for Peel V Subi but think the West was phoning it in to be honest (like they sometimes do).
I have been wrong about many players and hope that I'm wrong about Worner but I don't see an AFL talent at this stage.
Not great defensively, fumbles a bit, and is athletic but with no real traits that stand out (either with disposal, strength, pace or decision making). Can other guys see what I can't?
Even Duman had a better contested game, especially in the air!He's Duman but more agile but not as good a kick.
Even Duman had a better contested game, especially in the air!
Officially 5 cm.Duman probably has a good 10cm+ on Worner.
To be fair, he is wingman who was trained up at Peel to be a running hbf who has been played at Afl level as a third tall on the likes of SPP and Darling to name only two. I can't remember what tall he played on against Hawthorn. He isn't really being set up to excel.
Suggests that wing might actually be a much harder role — or at least, harder to do well — than people seem to think.Fair point. Would be interesting to see him playing as a true winger. Not sure what our obsession is with turning wingers into defenders when true wingers are actually harder to find (& keep for some reason)
Both being blond and roughly the same size is where the comparisons should stop between Worner and Wagner. One is so damaging off half back that an opposition coach just put on the most defensively minded forward tag that I've ever seen on the weekend. The other is Karl Worner.I think if Worner gets his pre-season right by becoming more robust in his frame and improves his composure (I don't think he's a bad kick per se but he craps the bed under pressure), he can be an AFL level player, but as others have said he lacks a point of difference (not overly impressive athletically, in reading the ball in the air/at ground level, in his kicking, etc). Somewhat of a "high" floor (by rookie standards) low ceiling type.
You can see this in comparing him to Wagner. Worner is nowhere near as useless when he's the deepest defender as Wagner was against Gold Coast (that tactical decision was a war crime). But Wagner is just way more able to take the game on, which makes him an intriguing player as that attacking rebounding half back.
Not true, they were both poor, making basic mistakes in their first couple of games for Freo. Wagner however is 26 and has played for two other AFL teams, so should've adjusted better.Both being blond and roughly the same size is where the comparisons should stop between Worner and Wagner. One is so damaging off half back that an opposition coach just put on the most defensively minded forward tag that I've ever seen on the weekend. The other is Karl Worner.
and after his first 2 games with us we wouldve said the same about wagner... ironic were now at the stage of lauding wagner while potting worner after two games...Both being blond and roughly the same size is where the comparisons should stop between Worner and Wagner. One is so damaging off half back that an opposition coach just put on the most defensively minded forward tag that I've ever seen on the weekend. The other is Karl Worner.
Counter: one is actively bad at defending, was a disaster when he wasn't hidden defensively in his first stint in the team, can't spoil milk and had a contested defence 1 on 1 loss rate of 55.6%. The other is Karl Worner.One is so damaging off half back that an opposition coach just put on the most defensively minded forward tag that I've ever seen on the weekend. The other is Karl Worner.
Wagner did not start his AFL career well, but has traits that Worner does not possess - like speed, agility, skilful disposal, and ability to take the game on. I'm not completely writing Worner off - as he might make it as an AFL player - I just think it's silly to compare them.and after his first 2 games with us we wouldve said the same about wagner... ironic were now at the stage of lauding wagner while potting worner after two games...
its looking you all in the face
Counter: one is actively bad at defending, was a disaster when he wasn't hidden defensively in his first stint in the team, can't spoil milk and had a contested defence 1 on 1 loss rate of 55.6%. The other is Karl Worner.
Worner is stll young and only two years into senior footy, needs another big pre season to improve his fitness and body strength but what i have seen at Peel is better suited to the Wing but maybe playing HBF helps in his developement Lets see how he goes 2024 before making judgementNot true, they were both poor, making basic mistakes in their first couple of games for Freo. Wagner however is 26 and has played for two other AFL teams, so should've adjusted better.
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Bit hard with Walker playing so well. Shame. I really like his dash although Clarke has been doing that more this season.is he the forgotten one?
how does he get back in?