Well said Kennett

[Slamin]

I cant agree anymore with Jeff Kennett over his coments in the Age regarding North melbourne ( sorry..Roos ) and the big move.

As I have said in other threads, it is not the proposal that is a problem...it is how the AFL's CEO goes about things.

He is nothing short of a bully and way to agressive at times when tact and subtlety should be engaged. He is the proverbial bull in a chine shop.

Now the idea of setting up a side or club on the coast in Qld has merrit (although persoanally I think the AFL has missed the boat by about 4-5 years ).

But to bludgen a proud club ( privately and publicaly ) is a repulsive way for a CEO to act. Has he asked the other 15 clubs what their thoughts are ? Has he tried to see if there were any other ways to achieve this goal...no

Yes Jeff...you are correct, our Andy is way to agressive and lacks class and tact....get rid of him ASAP.

Not to many are doubting the concept..just the way Andy goes about it.

With Tact and genuine private discussions with all custodians of our game ( the clubs ) we may have sorted this out years ago and the Roos may have been a willing partner in it. But can anyone blame the Roos if they tell Andy to shove his bully tactics where the sun dont shine.

 

[clobba]

Goooooo Jeffrey!

 

[Tas]

Kennett knows that there is a war going on and the NMFC is the battlefront. If the battle is lost here then the war would come to his doorstep and it is better to fight a war on foreign soil than in your own back yard. If the balance of power shifts to franchise clubs with nothing but money on their agenda then it will be the end of a number of clubs in the years to come as they are the rubber stamp behind AD and his cronies.

 

[Slamin]

My biggest problem is that our CEO forgets who actually owns the game.

It is not himself or the commission...in the end it is the clubs and it is the clubs who elect the commision...and the commission should oust our CEO asap.

IMHO

 

[Tas]

My biggest problem is that our CEO forgets who actually owns the game.

It is not himself or the commission...in the end it is the clubs and it is the clubs who elect the commision...and the commission should oust our CEO asap.

IMHO

He should be sacked for mismanagement let alone the fact he has threatened one of the license holders.

His agenda to chase money and ratings has put more clubs under jeopardy than before, lowered the standard of our game and heavily favoured a handful of clubs, he is going down the path of the EPL and if he is not stopped now the damage will be irreversible.

It is no surprise that clubs are going to the UK and see how clubs survive/thrive in that environment, they know what is coming. We need to stop it before it is too late.

 

[m0nty]

If you think Demetriou doesn't have the tacit support of a lot of AFL CEOs for his public bullying, then you're a tad naive. All of the non-Vic teams would like to see a team in the Gold Coast, with the possible exception of the Lions of course (although I seem to remember their only quibble was with timing). I bet some of the smaller Victorian teams would like to see a little less competition for the corporate dollar in the Melbourne market as well.

As for Kennett, he's well versed in meaningless populism.

 

[Tas]

If you think Demetriou doesn't have the tacit support of a lot of AFL CEOs for his public bullying, then you're a tad naive. All of the non-Vic teams would like to see a team in the Gold Coast, with the possible exception of the Lions of course (although I seem to remember their only quibble was with timing). I bet some of the smaller Victorian teams would like to see a little less competition for the corporate dollar in the Melbourne market as well.

As for Kennett, he's well versed in meaningless populism.

There is no real competition for the corporate dollar, we have that many powerful companies based in Melbourne you would have to be morons not to be able to find sponsors. Primus is ending their sporting sponsorships soon and we already have a replacement sponsor lined up ready and waiting for more than the previous arrangement.

The opportunities are endless. What limits how much you can ask is based on the level of FTA exposure you have, that will not change unless the AFL change their agreements with the broadcasters because they will always choose Collingwood and Essendon over smaller clubs if they expect it to rate higher.

As to the level of support, how often have you seen franchise clubs take on the AFL, ever? AFL screwed Adelaide with Gibbs and they didn't even utter a whimper. Victorian clubs that have not been dependant on the AFL for support have never rubber stamped anything they have proposed. A problem with feeder clubs is that they are interested in maximum profitability, it is because the SANFL and WAFL benefit from it. It is why they do not oppose a compromised draft with handouts but Collingwood does. If decisions maximises their long-term revenue do they really care at all?

Is maximising the revenue necessarily the best thing for football or just the best thing for club owners?

 

[Hawkk]

The HUN had better coverage of the interview;

Kennett also slammed the AFL's proposal of a 17th club, saying it lacked the support of club presidents.

"I think it's been handled very badly," he said. "This concept of 17 is just, to me, unnecessary, it is threatening and it's not done in my opinion with the knowledge and the support of the other presidents.

"If I had been (AFL chief) Andrew Demetriou I would have got all the other presidents together first to say, this is what we're thinking of doing, so you try to get a feedback to whether the presidents approve it."

But the Hawks boss does support the league's plan to relocate a Victorian team on the Gold Coast.

"Ten clubs are going to be very hard to support here financially," Kennett said.

"Three or four now get substantial amounts of money from the AFL to keep them going, to get them in the black, and that money runs out in about two years.

"I'm one who believes that you can't keep giving people money. If they don't get their act together then they should bear the consequences of that."

Kennett's qualms it seems isn't with the bullying tactics of the AFL as such or even the heavy handed attitude the AFL is taking to reducing the Victorian clubs, but with the threat of introducing a 17th license.

17 licenses = the TV money split 17 ways instead of 16 = reduced revenue.

A 17th license will never get up if it went to vote for that very reason.

 

[Hawkk]

Kennett knows that there is a war going on and the NMFC is the battlefront. If the battle is lost here then the war would come to his doorstep and it is better to fight a war on foreign soil than in your own back yard. If the balance of power shifts to franchise clubs with nothing but money on their agenda then it will be the end of a number of clubs in the years to come as they are the rubber stamp behind AD and his cronies.

Got to disagree, outside West Sydney there is no frontier left for the AFL to conquer in the foreseeable future - that is unless the merger proposal comes back on the table...if it did I can't see the AFL pushing it through, but I can see some Victorian clubs excepting it as a means to remain competitive with the cashed up interstate clubs.

One things for sure, if you think this is messy wait for the AFL's relocation push into West Sydney in 2015

 

[Sweat and Anger]

I cant agree anymore with Jeff Kennett over his coments in the Age regarding North melbourne ( sorry..Roos ) and the big move.

As I have said in other threads, it is not the proposal that is a problem...it is how the AFL's CEO goes about things.

He is nothing short of a bully and way to agressive at times when tact and subtlety should be engaged. He is the proverbial bull in a chine shop.

Now the idea of setting up a side or club on the coast in Qld has merrit (although persoanally I think the AFL has missed the boat by about 4-5 years ).

But to bludgen a proud club ( privately and publicaly ) is a repulsive way for a CEO to act. Has he asked the other 15 clubs what their thoughts are ? Has he tried to see if there were any other ways to achieve this goal...no

Yes Jeff...you are correct, our Andy is way to agressive and lacks class and tact....get rid of him ASAP.

Not to many are doubting the concept..just the way Andy goes about it.

With Tact and genuine private discussions with all custodians of our game ( the clubs ) we may have sorted this out years ago and the Roos may have been a willing partner in it. But can anyone blame the Roos if they tell Andy to shove his bully tactics where the sun dont shine.

If anyone can recognise a bull in a china shop, it's Jeffrey.

It's obvious you don't live in Victoria. If you did, you'd recognise the hypocrisy of his statements. If I was a cynical chap I would claim that he's merely said this to try and get some North supporters to join the Hawks if North actually go north.

 

[Linda Crescent]

If anyone can recognise a bull in a china shop, it's Jeffrey.

It's obvious you don't live in Victoria. If you did, you'd recognise the hypocrisy of his statements. If I was a cynical chap I would claim that he's merely said this to try and get some North supporters to join the Hawks if North actually go north.

Righto, given your not cynical what is your true claim regarding "his statements"?

 

[Slamin]

If anyone can recognise a bull in a china shop, it's Jeffrey.

It's obvious you don't live in Victoria. If you did, you'd recognise the hypocrisy of his statements. If I was a cynical chap I would claim that he's merely said this to try and get some North supporters to join the Hawks if North actually go north.

I am politically aware enough to know where you are comming from and understand it.

How ever here is a man who has been the the bull in a china shop politically who is upset with the way a CEO is bullying his way through issues that he has no right to rule the roost in. He is the representitive of 16 clubs...that is who he meant to work for....


The pig only hears his own voice and loves playing stand over tactics to people who are actually his employers. Yes ther is some similarity for sure, but at a different level IMHO.

 

[robaba]

I am politically aware enough to know where you are comming from and understand it.

How ever here is a man who has been the the bull in a china shop politically who is upset with the way a CEO is bullying his way through issues that he has no right to rule the roost in. He is the representitive of 16 clubs...that is who he meant to work for....


The pig only hears his own voice and loves playing stand over tactics to people who are actually his employers. Yes ther is some similarity for sure, but at a different level IMHO.

Slight correction - you meant the FAT pig right?
Time for the commission to stick him on the spit, for bringing the game into disrepute.

 

[Terry Tan]

Kennett