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Western Region FL - Divy 1 2018

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Turbos mail said:
Yep agree, it's totally fabricated. $200-300 per year won't get a player to move clubs. Think you will find its $200-300 per u/19s game they are paying them. That's not good for our local footy IMO. The young kid from Hillside Rusi played a few senior games with Hillside last year. His a big kid, but very raw.
I'm interested to hear the views of BF readers to this..,
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Its a farce and further proof this new new system has serious flaws.Deer Park absolutely taking the Pi$$.
 
Turbos mail said:
Hey I'm not whinging about them or have ever mentioned clubs should forfeit. I just jumped in to provide my thoughts.
Have you read the recent on line web newspaper article on Deer Park. They are offering money to junior players and employing a scout to watch the junior comp. It's offical now. Bit sad footy is going this way.
Let's see what the team at afl vic. do about this. They create this and it's going to get worse and create a lot of hostility between clubs.
Read it and let me know What do you think!

This to me is more of an issue. Where does it stop.. This will happen - Pay a 13yr old $500 for every year (to 18s) to swap clubs. At 16/17 we sit down and renegotiate again.
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No Turbo wasn't suggesting you were whinging at all . Just you were one who replied. Others who were suggesting forfeiting don't seem to want answer direct questions or debate with any level of reasoning. Just throw up idiotic crap. Always enjoy your banter . The rich and the smart will always work out a way to "beat the system". That's the wau
Turbos mail said:
Yep agree, it's totally fabricated. $200-300 per year won't get a player to move clubs. Think you will find its $200-300 per u/19s game they are paying them. That's not good for our local footy IMO. The young kid from Hillside Rusi played a few senior games with Hillside last year. His a big kid, but very raw.
I'm interested to hear the views of BF readers to this..,
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The sooner a metro super league is looked at the better. I can think of 10-12 clubs across metro Melbourne who pay $320000 plus per year. Let them play each other . You could have several divisions similar to the Ammos setup. I don't see why the Deer Parks of the world should be criticised for going about their business just because the comp they are in can't match them. Balwyn , Vermont , noble Park etc in the EFL and several clubs in the EDFL plus Heidelberg and Bundoora from the NFL are just some who come to mind who'd compete very well. The next best play in the B, C grades etc with the incentive of promotion/ relegation.
 
Bully Man said:
No Turbo wasn't suggesting you were whinging at all . Just you were one who replied. Others who were suggesting forfeiting don't seem to want answer direct questions or debate with any level of reasoning. Just throw up idiotic crap. Always enjoy your banter . The rich and the smart will always work out a way to "beat the system". That's the wau

The sooner a metro super league is looked at the better. I can think of 10-12 clubs across metro Melbourne who pay $320000 plus per year. Let them play each other . You could have several divisions similar to the Ammos setup. I don't see why the Deer Parks of the world should be criticised for going about their business just because the comp they are in can't match them. Balwyn , Vermont , noble Park etc in the EFL and several clubs in the EDFL plus Heidelberg and Bundoora from the NFL are just some who come to mind who'd compete very well. The next best play in the B, C grades etc with the incentive of promotion/ relegation.
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I'm going to watch with interest how many senior games these u/19s recruited to Deer Park on $$ actually play. At seasons end will it be deemed as a positive or negative investment. Once again I'm not bagging Deer Park as I knew it would occur due to the points system.
I hope Deer Park know his going to be min 3 points as is not classed as a junior product playing 40+ junior games.. They will need to recruit them younger for them to be classed as a home junior worth 1 point.
Also if a young u/19 player is attracted by the $$ what does this say if his intentions?
 

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The sooner a metro super league is looked at the better. I can think of 10-12 clubs across metro Melbourne who pay $320000 plus per year. Let them play each other . You could have several divisions similar to the Ammos setup. I don't see why the Deer Parks of the world should be criticised for going about their business just because the comp they are in can't match them. Balwyn , Vermont , noble Park etc in the EFL and several clubs in the EDFL plus Heidelberg and Bundoora from the NFL are just some who come to mind who'd compete very well. The next best play in the B, C grades etc with the incentive of promotion/ relegation.
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Combine the NFL, WRFL, EDFL (and any more you want) and get around 80 teams. 10 in a comp .... 2 up and 2 down. Same as the Ammos. Soon enough clubs will find their right level. With the ring road in place clubs are no longer that far apart
 
Bully Man said:
Also stop whinging every 5 minutes about them. The Deer Park boys are laughing at the rest of the competition . Anyone in their shoes would do exactly the same thing. I played many years ago in the old FDL and they were a struggling club for most of that time. I say well done to them . Over the past 30 years I cannot think of a div 1 side that hasn't played in a GF so every club will have their turn if they stick at it. The mere mention of forfeiting makes me sick !!!!
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If financial backers with money to burn are going to become a more prominent feature of select WRFL sides, having your turn will be worth no more than just having a kick on grand final day, if you get a kick.
DP have done nothing outside the rules, good luck to them. If rumours about the U/19's are true, there's danger in creating a 'put your hand out culture' that will continue into the senior years. They may be thinking that they are preparing well for the points system but they may be setting themselves to have to lure younger players with money indefinitely. We all know about local footballers chasing 'open cheque book' clubs and how it creates a bit of a vaccuum. Risky business but it may come off.
 
GoesBangFrom50 said:
Combine the NFL, WRFL, EDFL (and any more you want) and get around 80 teams. 10 in a comp .... 2 up and 2 down. Same as the Ammos. Soon enough clubs will find their right level. With the ring road in place clubs are no longer that far apart
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East-West link will help as well.... Oh hang on!
 
Turbos mail said:
I'm going to watch with interest how many senior games these u/19s recruited to Deer Park on $$ actually play. At seasons end will it be deemed as a positive or negative investment. Once again I'm not bagging Deer Park as I knew it would occur due to the points system.
I hope Deer Park know his going to be min 3 points as is not classed as a junior product playing 40+ junior games.. They will need to recruit them younger for them to be classed as a home junior worth 1 point.
Also if a young u/19 player is attracted by the $$ what does this say if his intentions?
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Back when I was 19 i would have jumped at the chance to get guaranteed pay playing u/19's. Half of the kids are probably only working part time/apprentices and going through uni/tafe so would jump at it!
 
PenAndPaperJosh said:
Back when I was 19 i would have jumped at the chance to get guaranteed pay playing u/19's. Half of the kids are probably only working part time/apprentices and going through uni/tafe so would jump at it!
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As I've previously mentioned I don't have a problem with paying incentitives to your better u/18-19 players but when it's used for enticing juniors from other clubs I don't think that's right.. My concern is where does it stop.,
 
Turbos mail said:
As I've previously mentioned I don't have a problem with paying incentitives to your better u/18-19 players but when it's used for enticing juniors from other clubs I don't think that's right.. My concern is where does it stop.,
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Oh don't get me wrong, i'm not a fan of it either but I wouldn't put any of the blame onto the kids.
Exactly right with the "where does it stop comment" the problem is the more you police it the more these teams are going to go further to get players
 
Innovativefwd said:
Is Purton Smith running around for a Deer Park this year?
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Yeah mate believe he is. His best mates with Kwame and still contracted.
Purdo is a gun but really needs to be challenged to show his best. At Deer Park it's not very challenging but his getting paid 2 times his market value.
 
Turbos mail said:
Yeah mate believe he is. His best mates with Kwame and still contracted.
Purdo is a gun but really needs to be challenged to show his best. At Deer Park it's not very challenging but his getting paid 2 times his market value.
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Watched him against Werribee and Hoppers games last year and he was huge in big games.

Once of the best clearance players and users of the footy I've seen in more recent times.

Massive if they retain him and add the new recruits to an already strong list. Can't see anyone getting near them again this year, however clear gap this year with Werribee and them being well out in front.

Chappy to play too I'm hearing now from round 4?
 

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Bully Man said:
No Turbo wasn't suggesting you were whinging at all . Just you were one who replied. Others who were suggesting forfeiting don't seem to want answer direct questions or debate with any level of reasoning. Just throw up idiotic crap. Always enjoy your banter . The rich and the smart will always work out a way to "beat the system". That's the wau

The sooner a metro super league is looked at the better. I can think of 10-12 clubs across metro Melbourne who pay $320000 plus per year. Let them play each other . You could have several divisions similar to the Ammos setup. I don't see why the Deer Parks of the world should be criticised for going about their business just because the comp they are in can't match them. Balwyn , Vermont , noble Park etc in the EFL and several clubs in the EDFL plus Heidelberg and Bundoora from the NFL are just some who come to mind who'd compete very well. The next best play in the B, C grades etc with the incentive of promotion/ relegation.
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You make an interesting suggestion. A Super league on its own sounds great, but it would not last more than 5 years. Clubs would eventually exhaust their reserves, and it would rip the heart of out of the local competitions. I would not want to be the one to have to decide that a club was not good enough to play in the Premier and would have to start in B or C grade. There would some hair pulling and foot stomping done by some Presidents. It would also become a direct threat to the VFL competition and the stand alone clubs that still compete. AFL Victoria would never agree to it. But if there was a Super League played once every 4 or 5 years, with some decent prize money, it would be an interesting scenario.
8-10 clubs each putting up $20K, and then attracting sponsors. It could work and it would be great to watch.
 
table tennis said:
Why no hoppers vs St . Albans today?
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Think it was just a matter of Easter being too early in the calendar, TT.

My thoughts this week:

Altona v Werribee 35 points
Hoppers v St.Albans 45 points
Sunshine v DP 65 points
Wyndhamvale v Albion 30 points

Good luck to all, hope I'm wrong on a few...
 
Dogs till i die said:
Think it was just a matter of Easter being too early in the calendar, TT.

My thoughts this week:

Altona v Werribee 35 points
Hoppers v St.Albans 45 points
Sunshine v DP 65 points
Wyndhamvale v Albion 30 points

Good luck to all, hope I'm wrong on a few...
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Didn't stop most other leagues taking the free kick and playing.

Fwiw
Werribee 55
Hoppers 10
Deer Park 134
Wyndham Vale 36
 
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