What do Freo stand for?

[DockersMad]

You think Freo are in the same place as the Eagles???

My god I would hope we are nowhere near as badly placed as Freo are with their ageing list of no-hopers At least we can blame our problems on injuries... Freo have got no excuse

Really? we're allowed to use injuries as an excuse now? I wish you guys would make up your minds.

That's why you can't work out what Freo stands for, what your club stands for changes day by day.

 

[Trump]

O'Brien, Foster, Ibbotson, Mayne, Palmer, Drum, Warnock, Hinkley .... these dinosaurs should just give it up.

Woosha can keep playing perennial aging underachievers like Braun and Feltcher, at least Harvs is giving the kids a go.

Obrien has played one game, Warnock has been wasting away in the WAFL and Palmer didnt get a game when it counted and could have been the difference.

Harvey is the worst coach in the AFL.

How Schammer, Macmanus, Mark Johnson and Gilmore get games is beyond me.

 

[Stronzo]

That's idiot Savant talk. Thats like an Eagles supporter saying we beat Brisbane Lions and Brisban Lions beat Port Adelaide so we are 10 goals better than Port

Take a look at the teams out on the park every week and the age and tell me how Freo are going

Well we have actually blooded a lot of good young players this year and there hasn't been a great deal of difference between our 22's mean age (except for round 1). A cleanout of some of the older players in needed, no doubt, but it is not really as bad as some might have you believe.

My point was to illustrate, that there isn't much between our clubs. And there isn't. We have in fact played a lot better footy than the eagles this year, but we haven't been able to put the runs on the board. The eagles haven't ever really been close, but they have some good young blokes and will start causing upsets at the end of the year.

Who will have the better future is anyones guess. We do have some good young players and we'll draft a few more, as will the eagles.

 

[Braun_2_B_Wild]

O'Brien, Foster, Ibbotson, Mayne, Palmer, Drum, Warnock, Hinkley .... these dinosaurs should just give it up.

Woosha can keep playing perennial aging underachievers like Braun and Feltcher, at least Harvs is giving the kids a go.

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I'm sorry... who? O'Brien? Who the hell is that... Ibbotson maybe.. Mayne maybe.. Palmer yes... Drum?? not up to it... Hinkley?? who the f$#k? and as for Warnock he is given so much of a go by "Harvs" that the talk is he is pissed off and wants to go to Melbourne where his brother is.

AHAHAHAHAHAAH listening to you is like listening to a Mark Harvey press conference. Lots of excuses and nothing that makes sense

 

[Stronzo]

Im not trolling.

Im simply looking for answers.

Next you'll be telling me you didn't go to Christ Church/Hale.

 

[Baxter Stockman]

kicking wcs arse at least!!!!

 

[Biggie]

Thats all there is.

 

[hoss]

Obrien has played one game, Warnock has been wasting away in the WAFL and Palmer didnt get a game when it counted and could have been the difference.

Harvey is the worst coach in the AFL.

How Schammer, Macmanus, Mark Johnson and Gilmore get games is beyond me.

Bugger me dead. I was sure O'Brien didn't debut last week??? and I thought Palmer had played every game but one this year??? But you must be right of course, I'm just a Freo supporter Warnock will be given his chances when he deserves it. Schammer is improving, Mark Johnson got his chance through injuries but has been playing WAFL, McManus I agree with you, and Gilmore's been poor of late but relatively good over the last half of last year and early this year.

 

[Trump]

Bugger me dead. I was sure O'Brien didn't debut last week??? and I thought Palmer had played every game but one this year??? But you must be right of course, I'm just a Freo supporter Warnock will be given his chances when he deserves it. Schammer is improving, Mark Johnson got his chance through injuries but has been playing WAFL, McManus I agree with you, and Gilmore's been poor of late but relatively good over the last half of last year and early this year.

Obrien has played one this year. Palmer should've played against Collingwood.

He didnt. Mark thought a hack like Matty Carr was a better option.

Great start to the year that was.

How long will Schammer be improving? He's shit.

 

[Trump]

kicking wcs arse at least!!!!

And there it is.

 

[DockersMad]

Here's how the club's see it.

Fremantle stands for pride, loyalty and passion.

West Coast stands for a new breed. Kind of like crossing a pig with a goat. Is that how braun_2_b_a_****** was conceived?

 

[hoss]

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I'm sorry... who? O'Brien? Who the hell is that... Ibbotson maybe.. Mayne maybe.. Palmer yes... Drum?? not up to it... Hinkley?? who the f$#k? and as for Warnock he is given so much of a go by "Harvs" that the talk is he is pissed off and wants to go to Melbourne where his brother is.

AHAHAHAHAHAAH listening to you is like listening to a Mark Harvey press conference. Lots of excuses and nothing that makes sense

...... and listening to you is like listening to a pre-pubescent kid with no knowledge or idea about football, who spends his whole time being the school bully because he has an inferiority complex and extremely small penis.

 

[hoss]

Obrien has played one this year. Palmer should've played against Collingwood.

He didnt. Mark thought a hack like Matty Carr was a better option.

Great start to the year that was.

How long will Schammer be improving? He's shit.

Okay so tell me how many players in their 'first year' of football have the Eagles played, in comparison to Freo. And is Woosha persisting with aging hacks like Braun, Fletcher and Wirrpunda?

 

[DockersMad]

...... and listening to you is like listening to a pre-pubescent kid with no knowledge or idea about football, who spends his whole time being the school bully because he has an inferiority complex and extremely small penis.

By the time puberty kicks in for him he will have had to replace the h and a keys on his keyboard multiple times.

 

[shibz_1989]

Trump, it is a simple point I am trying to make here.

Do you not stand for success anymore?

Um...I don't think they do, take a look at EFH. There's one particular poster on there who wants them to tank the rest of the season.

You're only as good as your last game imo.

Therefore:

Freo = crap
WC = crap

/End thread

 

[The Cranium]

 

[Crimson King]

Okay so tell me how many players in their 'first year' of football have the Eagles played, in comparison to Freo. And is Woosha persisting with aging hacks like Braun, Fletcher and Wirrpunda?

Err.....what?

 

[bushie]

Lol.

Bushie the ultimate FIGJAM.

Yep, that's me.!!

I'm the one who proclaims himself as a guru on an internet forum. And then runs like a hyena when the questions get too difficult.

I am the one who boasts about being a journo with a, State wide, arse wipe of a rag. And then does a pathetic impression of Brian Burke when the heat comes on.

I am the one who loves to dish it out, but cries like a bitch when it comes back at me in spades.

Oh, excuse me, I was mistaken.

That was you!!

You know Trump. Someone who observes this forum from a distance, from a purely indepedent perspective of course, might think that you were a dick head.

And they would be right!!

 

[Spartan]

Err.....what?

Just smile and nod.

 

[Quinz]

Okay so tell me how many players in their 'first year' of football have the Eagles played, in comparison to Freo. And is Woosha persisting with aging hacks like Braun, Fletcher and Wirrpunda?

You've played Mayne, Hinkley and Palmer, we've player Masten, Spangher, Selwood and Ebert.

Fletcher has been dropped twice, and Wirra made the Victorian squad for tonights match.

 

[Crimson King]

I would have liked to see Wirra played tonight.

 

[Pj.Rj.Hj]

Apparently Zoltan Kavac Opinion Editor of the West Australia is asking the same Question, as an East Fremantle fan I agree with him.

One of the darkest conspiracy theories to have circulated among Fremantle Dockers supporters (and there have been plenty) is that their club was set up for on-field failure. The theory was, or is, that the Dockers were established to get more use of Subiaco Oval, drag in more money for football and so on, but not to be able to challenge the West Coast Eagles as the dominant power in WA.

The short, troubled on-field history of the Dockers would suggest that the alleged conspiracy plotters have succeeded admirably. However, there is a political maxim that applies equally to football: if there is a choice between a conspiracy and a stuff-up, go for the stuff-up every time — and that offers the most likely explanation of the Dockers’ dismal condition.

The problem with the Dockers, exemplified by last weekend’s Melbourne humiliation, is that they are a club without a soul. This goes right back to the Dockers’ flawed foundation. The founding football bureaucrats had available to them a magnificent Fremantle football tradition in the local clubs, East Fremantle and South Fremantle. They chose largely to exclude it.

In effect, the planners trashed the long history and passion for the game that those clubs and their legions of supporters across the generations represented.

In the outstanding book, Behind The Play . . . A History of Football in Western Australia from 1868, historian Tony Barker recorded that the presidents of the port teams announced in late 1992 that they were joining forces to pursue an AFL licence, should the opportunity arise. The willingness of the presidents to “overcome historic inter-club hostilities was significant in view of their eventual exclusion from a role with the newly created club”, he wrote.

The official view was that the history of fierce rivalry between suburban clubs would prevent them from co-operating effectively in the establishment of a Fremantle-based AFL team.

Thus the tradition that could have been the guiding spirit of the new club was brushed aside.

Instead, an intense marketing exercise produced the Fremantle Dockers, who were neither Fremantle (in the traditional sense) nor dockers (the local word usually applied to wharf workers was wharfies).

Key figures in the club’s leadership were hockey players and a former West Perth footballer, no doubt fine men who were competent at and committed to their jobs. But once again, the perception was that there had been a calculated snub to Fremantle football traditions.

The Dockers eventually took to the field with a symbolic anchor weighing them down, a club song that some people regarded as a dirge and a fanfare of marketing hype — an artifice remote from the sturdy roots of genuine Fremantle tradition. Indeed, especially during the Chris Connolly era, it has been possible to view the club as a public relations company that has run a football team on the side.

Given the odds stacked against the team, inaugural coach Gerard Neesham achieved reasonable success with his side playing what was seen then as eccentric football (though his methods subsequently were copied by other coaches), to the simultaneous exhilaration and exasperation of supporters.

Some Fremantle people were miffed by the disproportionate Claremont element he imported to the team, but he was an innovative coach who, history has already shown, deserved better than he got from football officialdom.

A decade on, his most recent successor, Mark Harvey, responded to the Melbourne debacle by saying his group had to work out “what we stand for as a football team . . .”

If his players are going to amount to more than a collection of transient mercenaries, he might find the answer in a more-than token embrace of the rich but neglected tradition of Fremantle’s local football.

ZOLTAN KOVACS OPINION EDITOR

 

[Keys]

To be honest, IMO that article gives more weight to the conspiracy theory that Freo was deliberately set up to fail - by ignoring the input of the Freo clubs it seems that the set up was always likely to fail.

I prefer to believe that Freo just suck regardless.

And always will

 

[Pj.Rj.Hj]

I like your Avatar

 

[bushie]

To be honest, IMO that article gives more weight to the conspiracy theory that Freo was deliberately set up to fail - by ignoring the input of the Freo clubs it seems that the set up was always likely to fail.

And that has been our problem all along!!

I have said it on my board, and I am not afraid to say it here...or anywhere else.

Until we truly embrace the proud traditions, history and passion of Fremantle football, we will always be second best.

I have defended my club before, from all of you nuffies, when you question our "real" connection to our heritage.

But, sadly, I will do so no longer, until this connection becomes fact!

My only saving grace is, the fact that we actually have a heritage to call upon.

Yes, you have been successful.

But where is your soul?