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What if the AFL ignores the WADA decision
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Yes I know John McEnroe was a great tennis player back in his day .
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The AFL needs to come up with their own code,have an approved list where it's easy for the athlete to check if it's not on that list then they can't touch it also if a players breaches the code penalties are given in how many matches they miss not in months, years.
The AFL have been given every opportunity to do this, and not done it. I've been waiting for WADA to step in for quite some time now, and the AFL have nobody to blame but themselves.
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Hmmm needs to change we cant risk having it drag out this long again.
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Yes McEnroe was a good tennis player.
Considering it was Essendon that dragged it out for so long last time, I can't see why this would bother you.
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Well there is nothing the club can do about it now I'm sure if the club had their time again they wouldn't put themselves in this situation.
I hope Wada bloody speed the process up.
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Jeepers creepers............they can't even get the price of pies right!
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Turkeys don't vote for Christmas. Then again the AFL is so obsessed with protecting the brand you never know what they might do.
In my opinion the 3 strike rule was not about protecting the players, but it was about protecting the AFL brand.
Its my opinion also that the AFL are caught between a rock and a hard place between its obsession for money and protecting the brand.
If it pulls out of Wada it doesn't have to reveal its drug cheats, but at the same time it loses government funding.
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It actually hasn't dragged out that long. The investigation did not need to be public. The Bombers and the AFL decided to make it public. How often are criminal investigations made public? Think about when the INs were served. November last year? Not that long ago.
AFL doesnt want its players suspended for PEDs, its a horrible look locally and globally. I wouldnt trust the AFL to be fair and just. WADA dont give a shit about the AFL and neither does the CAS, only they will get the fair result in this case, whatever that is.
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All the club had to do from day 1 was show the documentation that showed the substances injected into the players were legal.
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Now you've been caught, you want to walk away from the code they have.
It's really, really simple. If you don't want to get caught doping - DON'T DOPE.
I think people can argue many sides of this.Now you've been caught, you want to walk away from the code they have.
I wouldn't be against a specif code set around the AFL, more related to penalties around games as said rather than years; I think an athletics athletes missing 2 years is different to say AFL, you may miss 1 major comp in that time (I am aware of the new 4 years now) or you could still be caught and not miss the main even itself, the Olympics.
I don't trust to AFL to run it though. Thats why I don't trust this investigation and what we read. I do think ASADA have to take some of the blame for that, they agreed to the joint investigation without any real checks against leaks and so on - maybe not so much ASADA themselves. But others in the room.
For me, that is like Essendon being cleared of any anti doping breaches (thus far) doesn't mean all was okay.
I see ASADA in the same boat, legally they are okay, no issue with that. I do think that because - and who cares who was behind them tbh, with the leaks it became far too personal. Even some of ASADA's investigators were worried about the AFL influence, ASADA's legals were worried about the AFL having second thoughts (or at the very least making the most of it while the AFL seemed to be being friendly.
I did trust the AFL tribunal. I talked to enough different lawyers that the result at least wasn;t unexpected. I was not sure which way it would go though.
I have no issue with WADA appealing, that it their right within the code. But, equally, I don't think people can complain about the AFL tribunal when, ASADA too agreed to those terms
I don't think always the don't dope, you won't get caught is as easy as some make it out either. On paper it sounds fine. But, for example if cops wanted to be pricks, I think they could find a lot of very good, law abiding people for minor offences, rear wheel over a double line. Speeding (just a few km over, doing down a steep hill), jaywalking. Some things they often let go for being so minor but in a black and white world they are breaches. Not saying this is the case with ASADA here, just I think it is a too black and white view of things.
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My understanding is that they don't appeal many cases and only really take it on if they think there's a chance. To me, that's pretty much the same as what you are suggesting, except it's self-managed. Rather than convincing a CAS panel that they deserve an appeal hearing, they have to convince themselves that it's worth the time and money.
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I truly believe it's about the legitimacy of the AFL and not EFC / players or Dank.
I don't think their record is as good without a positive test, but plenty read too much into it either way
I still think that is fought with danger though, personally (WADA only have to convince themselves) it does put them in a position where they can (to be clear, being more open than the Essendon case here) that WADA could become somewhat an abuse of power in that position. Say for example they know their case has a fatal flaw, but there is something there.
They pressure said athlete to say a 6 month deal, it is all over. Or else they could drag it on for 2 years; in which time it could have been dealth with. What is the athlete did not have the month for good representation?
Just to me I think, potentially gives WADA too much power to just appeal because they can if they feel like it.
At the end of the day anti doping is a relatively new setup, it probably will take a while to get things running and iron out all the bumps. Happens all the time
does anyone know the CJC half life?
Is the Cologne lab, thats Koln with the umlauts thing when you sprechen ein deutsche, is the Koln (umlauts) lab the only place where it can be tested for in the ASADA afl sphere?
homes free to do this amino acid then.
Is the Cologne lab, thats Koln with the umlauts thing when you sprechen ein deutsche, is the Koln (umlauts) lab the only place where it can be tested for in the ASADA afl sphere?
homes free to do this amino acid then.
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