What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 4

[GetDimmaBack]

I want a tall forward who can kick multiple goals, run like the wind, present all over the oval and still be able to kick a 60 metre goal in the last 20 seconds, that's...

...what JUH did against Melbourne!

When has Schache ever done that?
At VFL level, perhaps?



PS: do you by any chance live under a bridge?
Or to phrase it in your own vernacular, have you recently shoved a bridge up your clacker? (Apologies for the split infinitive, but the expression of my question works better that way...)

 

[D Mitchell]

Yep I’ve been really impressed with some of his work in traffic and the handballs he fires out too. Not to mention his long kicks to advantage going into the forward line. Being a forward himself, seems to know exactly where to float them.

His pressure work has improved 10x on his debut too. Clearly gassed at points but no more than others on the team. Have noticed Williams looks particularly cooked and sweaty at points this year.

That's fine for you but fewer than a goal a game ? This is crunch time. We either win and hope that others lose. We have a 24 year old who has proved in the past to be a multiple goal; scorer and a capable defender. One game to go and idiots toss up woke racism ?

 

[D Mitchell]

...what JUH did against Melbourne!

When has Schache ever done that?
At VFL level, perhaps?

There's 1 game to go, Ugle-Hagan's averaging fewer than a goal a game. The Ugle-Hagan's experiment has cost us the season. One last opportunity, let's not waste it. You and I will have no say in it, unless you are, I sometimes suspect, Bev.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

One game to go and normal people worry about racism ?

Fixed it for you.

And.Yes.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

There's 1 game to go, Ugle-Hagn's averaging fewer than a goal a game. The Ugle-Hagan's experiment has cost us the season. One last opportunity, let's not waste it. You and I will have no say in it, unless you are, I sometimes suspect, Bev.

What say you re: my split infinitive, old fruit?

 

[WAbulldog]

Each to their own I guess?

 

[footscray1973]

Cmon everyone. The dead give aways were all the early (now deleted) posts that repeated how "lazy" Marra was/is. That's casual racism at its finest. Now you're being treated to casual racism AND NFI about footy - and you're surprised?!

 

[Arkangel]

There's 1 game to go, Ugle-Hagan's averaging fewer than a goal a game. The Ugle-Hagan's experiment has cost us the season. One last opportunity, let's not waste it. You and I will have no say in it, unless you are, I sometimes suspect, Bev.

D Mitchell, I know maths isn’t your strong suit, but JUH has kicked 18 goals from 15 games this season. He has the fourth-greatest goal tally (behind Naughton, Weightman, and Bontempelli), and the third-highest goal average (behind Naughton and Weightman). Maybe you’re right and including Schache in the team gives us our best shot at a win in R23, but the evidence in support of that assertion is tenuous, at best; and the evidence that he should come into the team at the expense of JUH seems even weaker (if anything, I would’ve thought Martin would be the obvious swap).

 

[darklake]

Easy to pick the Trump lover aint it?!!

 

[D Mitchell]

Fixed it for you.

And.Yes.

Did you ask your Brit neighbours why soccer strikers don't run and defend as do our forwards ? Can you imagine Naughton, West, Weightman even Johannisen not chasing and putting on pressure ? The explanation I was given was that soccer strikers have to preserve their spark for the strike. These are blokes who are paid multiples of what even our pampereds are paid but won't do the ice baths or early morning sea baths.

You'd be as offended as me with the superlative instead of the comparative and as for apostrophes ? Your split infinitive a very minor venial sin.

 

[D Mitchell]

D Mitchell, I know maths isn’t your strong suit, but JUH has kicked 18 goals from 15 games this season. He has the fourth-greatest goal tally (behind Naughton, Weightman, and Bontempelli), and the third-highest goal average (behind Naughton and Weightman). Maybe you’re right and including Schache in the team gives us our best shot at a win in R23, but the evidence in support of that assertion is tenuous, at best; and the evidence that he should come into the team at the expense of JUH seems even weaker (if anything, I would’ve thought Martin would be the obvious swap).

Thankyou for an, unusually, rational response. That's 1.2 per game, not even a multiple. Take out the Melbourne game of 5, you are left with fewer than a goal a game. Try medium rather than average. Early in the season, when he was playing undeserved games, he was averaging around 6 disposals and less than a goal a game. He was dropped, games too late, spent 6 weeks in the twos and came back a far better player. If you take out the Melbourne game, nothing's changed. His disposals might have doubled and he's booted a couple of important goals but he's still scoring fewer than a goal a game. Naughton's not much better. 2 Key position players scoring fewer than 3 per game between them isn't acceptable. It's nice to read "coming on nicely" and " growing in confidence" but, thanks to the Ugle-Hagan experiment, we are going to miss a finals series. There's no way I'd drop Naughton, his 2nd and 3rd efforts are exemplary

 

[D Mitchell]

Would it surprise you to learn that Josh Schache kicks fewer goals on average than Jamarra Ugle-Hagan over his career? He is also worse in every other key statistic that forwards are usually judged on, such as contested marks. And that's ignoring the fact he's five years older. If you compare them when Schache was the same age then it's even worse news for your mate Josh. You are right about one thing though; Schache is an excellent VFL player.

It would greatly surprise me but it's possible given the way Schache's treated by our coaching staff and by Brisbane, he probably didn't get gifted games. Who cares what he did with the Lions and the way Bev shoves him around, he's a hard worker, covers ground a la Riewoldt, takes a nice grab and, again, kicks multiples of goals, if you want stats, Ugle-Hagan has done that three times in his 2 years as often as not doesn't score and kicks far more behinds that goals. One game to go, we may, just may, play finals. Our chances are far better with Schache.

 

[D Mitchell]

...what JUH did against Melbourne!

When has Schache ever done that?
At VFL level, perhaps?



PS: do you by any chance live under a bridge?
Or to phrase it in your own vernacular, have you recently shoved a bridge up your clacker? (Apologies for the split infinitive, but the expression of my question works better that way...)

I used to read a bit of Hans Christian Andersen, it looks like you did too. It also looks like you knew my brother in law, from whom I picked up the expression. I like the way it flows though your prose. It's already tomorrow morning so, goodnight, GDB.

 

[cherrypie]

I regret spending 2 minutes reading the above posts. Time I will never get back

 

[BEaston]

Just ignore

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Did you ask your Brit neighbours why soccer strikers don't run and defend as do our forwards ? Can you imagine Naughton, West, Weightman even Johannisen not chasing and putting on pressure ? The explanation I was given was that soccer strikers have to preserve their spark for the strike. These are blokes who are paid multiples of what even our pampereds are paid but won't do the ice baths or early morning sea baths.

You'd be as offended as me with the superlative instead of the comparative and as for apostrophes ? Your split infinitive a very minor venial sin.

Don't get me started on apostrophes!

I am interested, though, why you feel the need for a space before a question mark...

 

[Foxman98]

Thankyou for an, unusually, rational response. That's 1.2 per game, not even a multiple. Take out the Melbourne game of 5, you are left with fewer than a goal a game. Try medium rather than average. Early in the season, when he was playing undeserved games, he was averaging around 6 disposals and less than a goal a game. He was dropped, games too late, spent 6 weeks in the twos and came back a far better player. If you take out the Melbourne game, nothing's changed. His disposals might have doubled and he's booted a couple of important goals but he's still scoring fewer than a goal a game. Naughton's not much better. 2 Key position players scoring fewer than 3 per game between them isn't acceptable. It's nice to read "coming on nicely" and " growing in confidence" but, thanks to the Ugle-Hagan experiment, we are going to miss a finals series. There's no way I'd drop Naughton, his 2nd and 3rd efforts are exemplary

And if you take out Schaches 4 goals against bottom 6 sides he has a grand total of 1 when the game was over agaisnt Sydney piss off you racist troll

 

[D Mitchell]

Don't get me started on apostrophes!

I am interested, though, why you feel the need for a space before a question mark...

Aesthetics

Don't get me started on apostrophes!

I am interested, though, why you feel the need for a space before a question mark...

Aesthetics. It’s at the end of the sentence and invites an answer, unlike the full stop which finishes the sentence. It looks better, less cluttered.

 

[Sharpiesadog]

Thankyou for an, unusually, rational response. That's 1.2 per game, not even a multiple. Take out the Melbourne game of 5, you are left with fewer than a goal a game. Try medium rather than average. Early in the season, when he was playing undeserved games, he was averaging around 6 disposals and less than a goal a game. He was dropped, games too late, spent 6 weeks in the twos and came back a far better player. If you take out the Melbourne game, nothing's changed. His disposals might have doubled and he's booted a couple of important goals but he's still scoring fewer than a goal a game. Naughton's not much better. 2 Key position players scoring fewer than 3 per game between them isn't acceptable. It's nice to read "coming on nicely" and " growing in confidence" but, thanks to the Ugle-Hagan experiment, we are going to miss a finals series. There's no way I'd drop Naughton, his 2nd and 3rd efforts are exemplary

So we’re going to miss finals because we have been playing JUH. Right…

 

[D Mitchell]

So we’re going to miss finals because we have been playing JUH. Right…

I’ve set out my reasoning on several occasions. If you genuinely didn’t see them before, let me know and I’ll set them out again.

 

[WAbulldog]

I thought this was the media thread not the team selection thread.

 

[Outback Footy]

It would greatly surprise me but it's possible given the way Schache's treated by our coaching staff and by Brisbane, he probably didn't get gifted games. Who cares what he did with the Lions and the way Bev shoves him around, he's a hard worker, covers ground a la Riewoldt, takes a nice grab and, again, kicks multiples of goals, if you want stats, Ugle-Hagan has done that three times in his 2 years as often as not doesn't score and kicks far more behinds that goals. One game to go, we may, just may, play finals. Our chances are far better with Schache.

C'mon man, anybody with half an eye can see that Josh' biggest problem is he doesnt commit to contests. Hes very slowly getting slightly better, but hes not AFL forward standard simply because he doesnt appear to want it enough. That was the case in Brisbane even more so. JUH Is developing, as youd expect from a second year player who lost his last year of juniors (remember covid?). You could argue hes a first year player this year. I agree that Id love to see him doing more, but he is getting better and is way more important to our future than Josh. JUH can be a generational forward. Josh had that potential but didnt follow through.
If Cords gets rubbed Id consider Josh for a backline position again though, I reckon hes half OK back there (at AFL level)

 

[Sentinel]

 

[adogsfan5]

What a man he is, seriously.

 

[VitalDread]

Wallis get a bit of flak for his footy abilities but honestly
Feel like hes the hidden gem in keeping this core group of players together