What's Wrong With St.Kilda Tonight???

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AllStar7 said:
Nothing wrong with the Saints, it's just that everything is right with Adelaide.

Will comfortably win the flag at this stage. Too good, even with all their injuries.
Scott Thompson is a gun :(
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We're bitter about Stenglein moving back to Perth too, but look on the bright side. You have Byron Pickett :) :thumbsu:
 
jonesy86 said:
being 6-6 the saints can just about kiss goodbye to a top 4 finish

having said that in 2003 pies were 6-6 and only lost 1 more h&a game and finished 2nd
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Saints won't make the Top 4...too many sides playing better.

- Sydney
- Adelaide
- West Coast
- Collingwood
- Melbourne
- Even the Dogs
 

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CrowTwig said:
We're bitter about Stenglein moving back to Perth too, but look on the bright side. You have Byron Pickett :) :thumbsu:
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I, unlike many Melbourne fans, have no bitterness or anger towards Scotty.
He is a good kid, and did the right thing by going home. He was happy at the club, but needed to return home, which is fair enough.

He is an awesome player, and if Melbourne don't win the flag (and lets face it, like that's ever gonna happen :eek: ), I'd be happy to see Adelaide and Thommo win it. Great, disciplined, hard at it, skilled team with a gun coach. :thumbsu:
 
AllStar7 said:
I, unlike many Melbourne fans, have no bitterness or anger towards Scotty.
He is a good kid, and did the right thing by going home. He was happy at the club, but needed to return home, which is fair enough.

He is an awesome player, and if Melbourne don't win the flag (and lets face it, like that's ever gonna happen :eek: ), I'd be happy to see Adelaide and Thommo win it. Great, disciplined, hard at it, skilled team with a gun coach. :thumbsu:
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Yeah, Thompson impresses me.

He dominated down at Skilled Stadium last year...(Round 12)
 
AllStar7 said:
I, unlike many Melbourne fans, have no bitterness or anger towards Scotty.
He is a good kid, and did the right thing by going home. He was happy at the club, but needed to return home, which is fair enough.

He is an awesome player, and if Melbourne don't win the flag (and lets face it, like that's ever gonna happen :eek: ), I'd be happy to see Adelaide and Thommo win it. Great, disciplined, hard at it, skilled team with a gun coach. :thumbsu:
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i dont understand how supporters can be happy with players they have drafted and put a lot of effort into developing only for them to want to p1ss off back home....everyone knows the pros and cons of nominating for the "national" draft and it is just a slap in the face of the clubs

in collingwoods case it was very disappointing for nick davis wanting to return home when he had commited to coming to the pies under the father son rule
 
...and if Melbourne don't win the flag (and lets face it, like that's ever gonna happen :eek:
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Dunno about that mate. U've got a bloody good side this year. Dont think I'd like the Eagles to be meeting the Dee's at an MCG grandfinal. ;)
 
AllStar7 said:
Nothing wrong with the Saints, it's just that everything is right with Adelaide.

Will comfortably win the flag at this stage. Too good, even with all their injuries.
Scott Thompson is a gun :(
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at this stage, we're probably favourites, but a lot can happened between the finals and now.
 
Saints no heart or courage at all

The Saints, premiership "favourites" at the start of the year. Now after the midseason game, are highly likely to not be in the eight, making top 4 a dream.

They have no heart, spirit or courage (Exception Hayes). When someone needs to stand up and kick a goal, there is no one without Hayes. An example of this is in the second quarter, showing the difference between a 'great' and a 'good' player. Within a minute the saints had a scoring shot after trailing by 20 points at quarter time, but it was a point. Another minute later they had another, yet again missing. Another point was kicked before Adelaide kicked 3 goals in a row.
Instead of converting a 20 point loss to a 2 or 7 point loss, they trailed by 7 goals very soon.

The next example is of Fiora (who has played 3 games all under 9 possessions) Aaron Fiora's woeful attempt to mark in the dying stages of the third term, the former Tiger choosing not to be strong in a marking contest with two Crows rushing towards him. Whether or not the game is truly over, or not you'd expect a "premiership" contender to fight for the ball every minute of the game this was not evident...rarely for a minute of the game.

The heart, which is probably most lacking and dissapointing has been evident most games this season. They have lost 2 games under a goal this year (freo by a point & Port by 4 points). But more dissapointingly, the game that Harvey became the saints leading game player (324) the saints played a lackluster Geelong, which had not one since round 2 and was looking more and more dissapointing every week. The saints, unable to even look good that night lost to a Geelong that has only won 1 game since...against Essendon.

My 2 cents, possible reasons why the saints are out for 2006, and probably until the next generation comes around.
 
jonesy86 said:
i dont understand how supporters can be happy with players they have drafted and put a lot of effort into developing only for them to want to p1ss off back home....everyone knows the pros and cons of nominating for the "national" draft and it is just a slap in the face of the clubs
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that's because I suspect you're pretty young and don't know much about working in the real world.

players have no choice but to enter the draft if they want a career as an AFL footballer; the club that draft's them isn't doing for the players benefit. The draft him, and develop him, for their own needs and reasons - they're not doing him a favour.

If he wants to go home, like all employees the bloke should have the right to work where he wants.
 

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campbell said:
What did Adelaide do to the AFl.Played a night game in Brisbane last Saturday, backing up for Friday night in melbourne.

Imagine if that happened to Collingwood.oiii
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Meh, we Crows fans are sick of arguing about inequities like that. Not sure if the AFL deliberately tries to screw us each season or if they simply don't give a stuff.

At least on this occassion the Saints were also coming off the same break and an interstate game.
 
16 Jun 2006 04:30 PM - St Kilda vs Adelaide - Triple Margin
2: (Straight) Adelaide Over 15.5 Points @ 2.12 212.00
Bet Number: ******** Bet Type: Straight
Win / Place: No
Price To Win: 2.12
Stake Win: 100.00 Stake Place: 0.00
Payout Win: 212.00 Payout Place: 0.00
Settled: Yes Win / Loss: Win
 
DemonAndrew said:
this is the only person i know happy to have scott walk out on us.

most were disgusted, as we all knew what a good player he was going to be.
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I seem to remember that you were at least compensated with a decent draft pick
 
AllStar7 said:
I, unlike many Melbourne fans, have no bitterness or anger towards Scotty.
He is a good kid, and did the right thing by going home. He was happy at the club, but needed to return home, which is fair enough.

He is an awesome player, and if Melbourne don't win the flag (and lets face it, like that's ever gonna happen :eek: ), I'd be happy to see Adelaide and Thommo win it. Great, disciplined, hard at it, skilled team with a gun coach. :thumbsu:
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Scotty is a gutsy player but not too smart sometimes, still gives away a lot of stupid free kicks. Needs to find that fine balance of aggression and discipline. Overall very glad we got him, should be a 200 game player for us.
 
jonesy86 said:
i dont understand how supporters can be happy with players they have drafted and put a lot of effort into developing only for them to want to p1ss off back home....everyone knows the pros and cons of nominating for the "national" draft and it is just a slap in the face of the clubs

in collingwoods case it was very disappointing for nick davis wanting to return home when he had commited to coming to the pies under the father son rule
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Yeah, just like Brissie and your current captain.;)
 
jonesy86 said:
i dont understand how supporters can be happy with players they have drafted and put a lot of effort into developing only for them to want to p1ss off back home....everyone knows the pros and cons of nominating for the "national" draft and it is just a slap in the face of the clubs

in collingwoods case it was very disappointing for nick davis wanting to return home when he had commited to coming to the pies under the father son rule
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Its always comical when Pies supportors have a go at players leaving for the "go home " factor.

Just a quick question, you realise Shane O'Bree left Brisbane to come home?
Anthony Rocca left the swans to come home? Those 2 are certainties.

Not sure on Clement and Holland leaving Freo?
Licka leaving the swans?
Buckley leaving the Bears?
If they did leave to return home - thats 6 starters,including your all time best player, your FF and FB. The pies have done fairly well with the go home factor
 
MaccasNeighbour said:
Not sure if the AFL deliberately tries to screw us each season or if they simply don't give a stuff.
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I've given up worrying about the draw ... just take it as read it won't be favourable for Adelaide, and get on with it.

Last season ... round 22 in Perth against West Coast.

This season ... I think the AFL tried to make sure the Crows wouldn't be in the picture early.

Pity it didn't really work ... because now the Crows are 10-2 and they still have 7 games at AAMI to come in the last 10 rounds.
 
Re: Saints no heart or courage at all

Saints, no Koschitzkie, no Hayes, no Thompson, no Raphael Clarke, no Blake, no Hamill, no Powell, effectively no Harvey and no Hudgton in the second half.

Injuries are us with Starsce down at Morabbin.

It's sad, because they did look the good early on. Tough going from here on.


But don't forget, Collingwood were 6-6 in 2003 after 12 weeks, and still finished up in 2nd spot after the H&A series.
 
Re: Saints no heart or courage at all

I'd say i have to agree, losing Lenny was a massive loss. It seemed tonight that the Saints were lost, flat and tired. Adelaide just ran all over them and destroyed them. I'm not sure i know why either, St Kilda have plenty of talent though, a bit surprised about what unravalled.

Positives, Brendon Goddard's emergence as a strong, reliable player and also steven Baker was good.


I love the saints and hope they make the finals, but without Lennnny, they will struggle.
 

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