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Optus is heaps better. I love the scoreboard animation thingys i they still hav em.. Never been to Skilled though
Which is the better stadium??? Optus or Skilled?
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That would be the scoreboard that often doesn't work,wouldn't it ?
Saiak seems to show more interest in Geelong than Carlton.I wonder if its a relative of Karl.
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Things Wrong with Optus:
1. It is Carlton's home ground.
2. The toilets are disgraceful. I was there for the VFL GF 2 weeks ago and walking in the breeze ways all you could smell was ****.
3. The Parking issues.
4. It is not aesthetically pleasing.
5. It is Carlton's home ground.
6. Seats are way too cramped at that new stand.. Legends stand? Right behind the goals, where I would have to sit, you can not move. That whole stand has been poorly designed. Made to look sophisicated, with no thought on logistic issues.
7. The screen is ****.
8. You can't move when you get into the corridors/breeze way things.
9. The stair cases are too slim.
10. It is Carlton's home ground.
But if we apply the same criteria to Skilled, you will come up with some crosses in some of the same areas.
I think movement around the ground is superior at Geelong, but Carlton (although ****) has a permanent screen.
Who really cares whether each ground is MCG standard. It's a pretty good thing that these are the only two suburban grounds left.
I also question what you have written here. ANyone see the contradictions?
1. It is Carlton's home ground.
2. The toilets are disgraceful. I was there for the VFL GF 2 weeks ago and walking in the breeze ways all you could smell was ****.
3. The Parking issues.
4. It is not aesthetically pleasing.
5. It is Carlton's home ground.
6. Seats are way too cramped at that new stand.. Legends stand? Right behind the goals, where I would have to sit, you can not move. That whole stand has been poorly designed. Made to look sophisicated, with no thought on logistic issues.
7. The screen is ****.
8. You can't move when you get into the corridors/breeze way things.
9. The stair cases are too slim.
10. It is Carlton's home ground.
But if we apply the same criteria to Skilled, you will come up with some crosses in some of the same areas.
I think movement around the ground is superior at Geelong, but Carlton (although ****) has a permanent screen.
Who really cares whether each ground is MCG standard. It's a pretty good thing that these are the only two suburban grounds left.
I also question what you have written here. ANyone see the contradictions?
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Again, this is about my 5th post talking about Geelong, I am not exactly obsessed and not related to Karl...I posted this because I was talking to a mate and we were discussing what was the worst stadium and we realised that everyone bags Optus when Kardinia is worse!
Deestroy
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It's better than not having one at all, and at least you can have a seat without having to pay for a reserved one. PP is a ****hole, but IMO KP is worse.Originally posted by JUBJUB
That would be the scoreboard that often doesn't work,wouldn't it ?
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Then why does it appear grey on telly? And before you suggest the weather or the state of my TV, in perfect weather and on a new colour telly.
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This coming from a club who doesn't have to worry about maintaining a ground. We are one of two clubs who have control of their own ground. No wonder both are struggling financially. If Melbourne were maintaining their own ground you would find their facilities would be pretty average too.
Anyway, since when has a Melbourne fan complained about prices?
sainter
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We've been fortunate enough to draw Carlton at Optus Oval in Round 21 and Geelong at Skilled Stadium in Round 22.
It's hard to compare two grounds you hate intensely.
At least with Optus there are free seats available if you get to the ground early (bottom of the Legends Stand). With Geelong you have to pay over $30 for a reserved seat or stand behind the goals or in the forward/back pocket. Having said that I don't mind the train ride full of saints supporters to Geelong and it's good to experience a footy day more akin to the old days. Especially when every other week we're at Colonial Stadium under a closed roof.
Anyway if the saints play at the ground I'll be there. Perhaps my judgement is just a little clouded from some fearful thrashings over the years. Round 4 this year wasn't a highlight.
It's hard to compare two grounds you hate intensely.
At least with Optus there are free seats available if you get to the ground early (bottom of the Legends Stand). With Geelong you have to pay over $30 for a reserved seat or stand behind the goals or in the forward/back pocket. Having said that I don't mind the train ride full of saints supporters to Geelong and it's good to experience a footy day more akin to the old days. Especially when every other week we're at Colonial Stadium under a closed roof.
Anyway if the saints play at the ground I'll be there. Perhaps my judgement is just a little clouded from some fearful thrashings over the years. Round 4 this year wasn't a highlight.
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Maybe your eyesight
No, I don't know why it appears grey. It isn't in person, very lush and green. Right now they are replanting the ground and this is why it is in good condition, but it wasn't quite as empty all season as you probably think. Optus hosted 47 games of football and 130 training sessions in 2002. It held up very well!
tragicforces
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Optus oval is redundant given that the Telstra Dome is only a few kilometre's away. Skilled Stadium will always have its place in the AFL as long as Geelong remains in the competition.
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One of Optarse Ovals biggest crowds this year was the VFL Grand Final,which would be a worry for Carlton.
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Telstra Dome is perhaps the worst stadium if you take into account the way it sanitizes the game and removes the atmosphere. It is stale and boring. Great facilities, but they do not always make a great stadium!
Come on people, lets be honest here. Optus Oval is a much better ground than Kardinia Park.
10 year's ago, it wasn't.
Before they put the seats on the outer wing at Geelong, there was no better atmosphere than being part of a packed house at Geelong with Ablett flying and the side kicking record scores.
But since the seats have gone in, the atmosphere has disappeared which may have something to do with the reason why we haven't been as successful there in recent years. We used to always give a contest no matter who came down or how good they were, now we have a tendancy to lay down on occasions, and that is partly because of the lack of noise from the supporters.
Now the cheersquad are at the other end of the ground, now the brownlow stand is full of 90 year-olds and there is a new stand which is designed purely for the sponsors which has ruined the atmosphere at the ground, they've even taken down the two manuel scoreboards.
The other problem at Geelong is that the everyday supporter that came 10 years ago and stood on the wing with their family can't afford to do that anymore, which makes for a slighty different style, middle-upper class crowd, traditionally a lot quieter. The standing room that does exist is on the forward flanks behind the seats so you don't get that atmosphere down on the ground.
At least at Carlton, you can go undercover if it rains, you can't do that at Geelong.
The surface of both are on a par because neither now have a cricket pitch, so conditions are always as good as can be except for surface water which gathers on both grounds from time to time.
Geelong's facilities are better in terms of toilets, food and bar outlets. But in terms of an atmosphere it doesn't compare.
I think the VFL grand final showed the value of both grounds. There was just as much noise for Geelong in an 11,500 crowd at Carlton as there would be for 22,000 crowd at Geelong.
10 year's ago, it wasn't.
Before they put the seats on the outer wing at Geelong, there was no better atmosphere than being part of a packed house at Geelong with Ablett flying and the side kicking record scores.
But since the seats have gone in, the atmosphere has disappeared which may have something to do with the reason why we haven't been as successful there in recent years. We used to always give a contest no matter who came down or how good they were, now we have a tendancy to lay down on occasions, and that is partly because of the lack of noise from the supporters.
Now the cheersquad are at the other end of the ground, now the brownlow stand is full of 90 year-olds and there is a new stand which is designed purely for the sponsors which has ruined the atmosphere at the ground, they've even taken down the two manuel scoreboards.
The other problem at Geelong is that the everyday supporter that came 10 years ago and stood on the wing with their family can't afford to do that anymore, which makes for a slighty different style, middle-upper class crowd, traditionally a lot quieter. The standing room that does exist is on the forward flanks behind the seats so you don't get that atmosphere down on the ground.
At least at Carlton, you can go undercover if it rains, you can't do that at Geelong.
The surface of both are on a par because neither now have a cricket pitch, so conditions are always as good as can be except for surface water which gathers on both grounds from time to time.
Geelong's facilities are better in terms of toilets, food and bar outlets. But in terms of an atmosphere it doesn't compare.
I think the VFL grand final showed the value of both grounds. There was just as much noise for Geelong in an 11,500 crowd at Carlton as there would be for 22,000 crowd at Geelong.
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Kardina Park (aka Skilled Stadium) purely because of the standing room available for the public.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Which is the better stadium??? Optus or Skilled?
Ah, fire up the delorean doc, once it hits 88mph, I'm off to the footy in Melbourne, circa 1979. Brilliant!!!!
I loved the old suburban grounds. When I was down in Melbourne as a kid, I would go to Kardinia Park, Princes Park, Arden Street, love the atmosphere, the feel, the wooden bench seats, the flaking paint, epitomised what footy was all about. The raw sounds and smells of the battle. I haven't seen anything like it since the early days of Carrara but even then it was more a temporary stand arrangement with a hill.
Ah, fire up the delorean doc, once it hits 88mph, I'm off to the footy in Melbourne, circa 1979. Brilliant!!!!
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