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Which player out of this group has the better career? The group inc. Pendles, JPK, Selwood & Danger
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Ducking is legal and a broken part of game that probably should be abused more until something is really done about it
Selwood asides there’s about 6 or 7 HoF players in the 07 team
Yes but they weren't playing at that level when Joel started - so he didn't walk into a gun team he was a critical part of turning that group of talented underachievers into what they became.
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Oh well by not bothering to turn up for the biggest day of his career, but earning the right to not show up, Walker's had by far the better career then.
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He's got all but 2 of them covered (no prizes for guessing who they are)
All guns obviously. I think Dangerfield is the odd one out here, he is a few years younger than the other three isn't he?
I love JPK but I'd probably rank Selwood first, Pendlebury second and then JPK. Selwood and Pendles were better for a bit longer. They all had similar peaks though, close to Brownlow favouritism, either won or went close to winning a Norm Smith, numerous AA's, B&F's etc.
All three would make a team of the decade for the 2010's and will go down as club greats and walk into the HOF.
I'd wait a few more seasons before deciding where Danger sits relative to them.
I love JPK but I'd probably rank Selwood first, Pendlebury second and then JPK. Selwood and Pendles were better for a bit longer. They all had similar peaks though, close to Brownlow favouritism, either won or went close to winning a Norm Smith, numerous AA's, B&F's etc.
All three would make a team of the decade for the 2010's and will go down as club greats and walk into the HOF.
I'd wait a few more seasons before deciding where Danger sits relative to them.
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Funnily enough the 2007 Rising Star award was a contest between Selwood and Pendelbury, and Selwood won 44 to 37, with Nathan Jones 3rd on 17 votes
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You've heard the expression, "A month in football........"
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Not really so. He walked into a team full of potential but perennial flops. Those in the know say Selwood's maturity and professionalism in his first year was one of THE driving forces behind Geelong finally breaking the premiership drought in 07
Are people really going down the 'more flags = better player' path?
Not even saying you can't pick Selwood as the better player, but to be using flags as the reason is the worst possible reason to use. Probably more than any other sport in the world individual contribution have relatively the least amount of impact on team success.
Not even saying you can't pick Selwood as the better player, but to be using flags as the reason is the worst possible reason to use. Probably more than any other sport in the world individual contribution have relatively the least amount of impact on team success.
Yeah I guess but I feel like the intent of the question is who's the better player. Otherwise just rattle off the achievements and be done with it.
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i mean I think it's a bit early as they are all still playing so time for any of them to change the way their careers are looked back on
really comes down to how you individually rate a career, winning flags doesn't make you a better footballer, just a more successful/lucky one as far as getting that flag
been quite a few amazing footballers that never got that flag, hell some never even got to play finals
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Selwood - better captain
Kennedy - better big game peformer
Pendlebury - more talented player
Take your pick who you want, not really a "wrong" answer- but I'll stick with Pendles thanks.
(I think Danger is too young and should be compared to the next group: Fyfe/Martin)
Kennedy - better big game peformer
Pendlebury - more talented player
Take your pick who you want, not really a "wrong" answer- but I'll stick with Pendles thanks.
(I think Danger is too young and should be compared to the next group: Fyfe/Martin)
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Better team career - clearly Selwood
Better individual playing career - Pendlebury wins that pretty comfortable IMO
Most elite individual season - Dangerfield
Better individual playing career - Pendlebury wins that pretty comfortable IMO
Most elite individual season - Dangerfield
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I wouldn't disagree that Kennedy has been great in big games but Selwood was outstanding in 3 of his 4 grand finals - the exception being his first. Even in the two prelims we've lost in the last two years he's had 39 and 34 touches which is high even by his standards.
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Selwood. 3 flags.
Case closed.
Case closed.
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There are so many different ways you can look at this question, which makes it interesting.
I think we can settle on Dangerfield's peak being the highest. I haven't seen the other 3 reach the level he played at in 2016/17.
But Selwood, Pendlebury and Kennedy would be 3 of the best game game players of the last 20 years. All have flags, Pendles has a Norm, Joel and Josh have both finished runner up. Their finals records are outstanding, and although Pendles has been away from it for a while, I'm incredibly confident he'll remind everyone this year how well he handles the brightest lights.
Dangerfield doesn't have the Finals pedigree of the other 3.
I think we can settle on Dangerfield's peak being the highest. I haven't seen the other 3 reach the level he played at in 2016/17.
But Selwood, Pendlebury and Kennedy would be 3 of the best game game players of the last 20 years. All have flags, Pendles has a Norm, Joel and Josh have both finished runner up. Their finals records are outstanding, and although Pendles has been away from it for a while, I'm incredibly confident he'll remind everyone this year how well he handles the brightest lights.
Dangerfield doesn't have the Finals pedigree of the other 3.
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Lot of changes 2006-7, can’t attribute that all to Selwood, no? Was a part of great sides, wasn’t the (sole) reason they were great. Unquestionably an absolute topliner, though, not denigrating him.
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And Pendles has a Norm Smith.
You could apply all 3 attributes to all 3 guys, i was trying to break them up slightly.
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Ridiculous. There are MANY things that are not necessarily legislated against but which are counter to the spirit of the game.
I always find it interesting when someone notes a player's quality by referencing premierships.
Because I dont think that the reverse holds, that the quality of a player is lessened by NOT having played in a premiership.
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