Prediction Which potential ruckmen would you prefer?

[Armoooo]

Yep and I bet you have watched zeros minutes of his games, you don't need an entire season to see that the guy is an absolute spud.

I only watched one hour of footy this year, our second half against West Coast.

All I can say is thank God we don't have any duds like Harley Reid. Bloke is an absolute spud.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I only watched one hour of footy this year, our second half against West Coast.

All I can say is thank God we don't have any duds like Harley Reid. Bloke is an absolute spud.

Was that an attempt at humour or sarcasm, poor either way, pathetic really.

 

[BrutThough]

Why don't you just let Heath play the main ruck role and Keeler play the KPF/2nd ruck role at VFL level to get their development up and give them a chance to be ready for an AFL call up if needed? I thought both have shown good signs at times. I think having Campbell playing VFL has stunted Heath's development somewhat - time to let the kid play the main role at Sandi!

Heath likley will still play the main ruck role at Sandy a lot even if we bring in another option. But clubs typically have more than 2 rucks on their list and it's not unreasonable to expect us to do the same.

 

[Significant]

Why don't you just let Heath play the main ruck role and Keeler play the KPF/2nd ruck role at VFL level to get their development up and give them a chance to be ready for an AFL call up if needed? I thought both have shown good signs at times. I think having Campbell playing VFL has stunted Heath's development somewhat - time to let the kid play the main role at Sandi!

This.

 

[L_W_P]

To even consider Boyd is comical IMO...Not one other club has gone within a bulls raw of Boyd, yet the Saints pony up and fly him over for a medical.

If we recruit Boyd that will be the end of my and my families 27 year membership. Its extreme I know but I am absolutely sick of our club attempting to fill ruckman holes with absolute spuds.

Huh?

He just won the SANFL BnF as a ruck. Seems a pretty decent player on paper.

Why the hate?

 

[Rogue Warrior]

Why don't you just let Heath play the main ruck role and Keeler play the KPF/2nd ruck role at VFL level to get their development up and give them a chance to be ready for an AFL call up if needed? I thought both have shown good signs at times. I think having Campbell playing VFL has stunted Heath's development somewhat - time to let the kid play the main role at Sandi!

Hit the nail on the head. Campbell was a great clubman but if Sandy’s priority is to develop St kilda players vs focus on winning it made little sense why Heath wasn’t given greater priority as #1 ruck, with Campbell 2nd fiddle. If Heath does make it, hopefully his time playing forward will serve him well.
2025 is his time to shine, hopefully #1 every week in the vfl and ideally blooded for a few games in the afl team if he earns it.

I’m a big fan of Keeler. Has all the athletic traits and skills to be very handy if his work ethic is there to match. His development is tracking well and to your point, time to give him more ruck exposure.

Will be very curious which angle we go with our additional ruck choice. Do we go mature bodied who will only be a break glass option or do they go 18yr to develop. And will which way the club goes give us a clue as to if they believe Heath will make it or not?

 

[gringo2011]

I'd prefer Heath or Keeler to either of the spuds mentioned. Why not give these lads their chance after years of development?

Necessity being the mother of invention would see these two show if they're up to it. Added to this, Marshall has proved very durable over his career and has shown he can carry and play through injury.

Let's not grab another Hunter or McKernan type. On the list for one year and it's goodbye. A wasted list spot and a year in which we could've started developing another promising young ruckman.

Get the best young ruckman available to us with a late pick, or rookie one who may have missed out in the past couple of years. No more WAFL nor SANFL spuds!

If Marshall and Heath are both injured we are playing Cordy or Hammer/ Sharman at the moment. This guy is just purely a third rung ruck. Doesn't really need to do more than be able to halve contests if he's ever needed.

 

[gringo2011]

Goober still available.... just saying.

 

[Armoooo]

Was that an attempt at humour or sarcasm, poor either way, pathetic really.

No genuine analysis based on a sample size sufficient to assess a players ability.

 

[SteeleSaints]

No genuine analysis based on a sample size sufficient to assess a players ability.

And you have

I love how idiots like yourself are jumping all over me because I had the interest to go and watch a game and make an assessment. Yet all you are relying on is one highlights clip and the fact the club are interested in him. He may only be a cheap short term fix, but Ill wait for the melt downs when and if he ever plays.

The other consideration is what about Heath's development? If as reported this spud can only play in the ruck, Heath will be in a worse position than he was with Campbell in the side. He will be the worse list management decision since bringing in Paul Thomas who was also dominating the SANFL.

 

[Armoooo]

And you have

I love how idiots like yourself are jumping all over me because I had the interest to go and watch a game and make an assessment. Yet all you are relying on is one highlights clip and the fact the club are interested in him. He may only be a cheap short term fix, but Ill wait for the melt downs when and if he ever plays.

The other consideration is what about Heath's development? If as reported this spud can only play in the ruck, Heath will be in a worse position than he was with Campbell in the side. He will be the worse list management decision since bringing in Paul Thomas who was also dominating the SANFL.

I haven't even watched his highlights.

He would be brought in as an emergency if Rowan and Heath are injured.

If he's that much of a dud he won't impact heaths development as he'd be the number 1 ruck still.

How many teams ever go into the season with 1 established ruck and nothing but an untried 21 year old in reserve?

I'm in the school of thought that if Row goes down we need to give Heath a run at it, this doesn't change that.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I haven't even watched his highlights.
He would be brought in as an emergency if Rowan and Heath are injured.
If he's that much of a dud he won't impact heaths development as he'd be the number 1 ruck still.
How many teams ever go into the season with 1 established ruck and nothing but an untried 21 year old in reserve?
I'm in the school of thought that if Row goes down we need to give Heath a run at it, this doesn't change that.

Thats my point, then where does he play?

WHY NOT grab a young ruckman who can at least can play forward, and develop his ruck craft behind Marshall & Heath. Boyd would be a complete waste of a list spot and the absolute wrong way for us to go for both the VFL & AFL sides.

People get excited when they think the club have found a hidden gem ruckman in the state leagues, how many times has that proven to work out? Identifying and developing kids is where the rucking gems come from!!!!

 

[borderbarry]

Where would Boyd stand in the list of or current ruckmen?
Marshall
Heath
Keeler.
Where would you place Boyd on the list?