-
AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Why did the game devolve into the current dog's breakfast?
- Thread starter Sttew
- Start date
- Tagged users None
Thanks man, will look it up.
It's a good read. Just recently he published a new book called "footballistics" which he co-wrote with a number of fanalyst bloggers
The game would have been better without a non sensical rule like ruck nominations.
And starngely enough if this round happened in the past there would have been extended highlights of Geelong v Melbourne on The Winners and we'd all be raving about how great the game is.
- Oct 3, 2013
- 13,225
- 31,824
- AFL Club
- Collingwood
- Other Teams
- Chelsea
**** yeah. Does my ****ing head in.
Sadly, there is actually a justifiable reason for ruck nominations, which was to head off gamesmanship by teams.
As a hypothetical, you have a throw up in the Eagles forward line, Vardy and Yeo are nearby. It looks like Vardy is going to take the tap, but when the ball is thrown up, he doesn't go for it, Yeo who has his direct opponent trying to block him from getting the tap from Vardy, goes for it instead, and then gets a free kick for interference in the ruck contest.
With no ruck nominations, a team can orchestrate free kicks for ruck infringement, by having unexpected players make out they were going to take the tap.
Opposition players cannot block out anyone near the contest in case the expected ruck steps back and their opponent then claims they were trying to compete in the ruck but got impeded.
The rule is not to stop the third man up, it's because rucks are protected in a rucking contest, therefore the umps and opposition players need to know who it is that cannot be blocked.
Sent from my XT1068 using Tapatalk
AFL fans are a bunch of theatregoers.
All the games so far have looked more than fine, even the 2 blowouts to kick things off.
The Goon
Norm Smith Medallist
I doubt the coaches would be thinking that way, but it’s an interesting point you raise. Has the introduction of reduced rotations actually increased congestion? Are tired players more likely to try and force a stoppage and get their breath back than try and force it out?
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
GreaterWeStener
Team Captain
Precisely why the rules need to be changed to make forcing a stoppage much more difficult. The relative ease of forcing a stoppage is at the heart of the congestion issue. Grab the ball as you're being tackled, easy stoppage.
I thought it pretty obvious that less rotations would increase congestion. What exactly was the reasoning behind thinking more tired players would make for a more free flowing game? That just seems completely nonsensical to me.
I think part of the reasoning was that they would have less energy to get to the stoppages in the first place, thus less numbers. I agree though that coaches would just plant tired players as a loose defender or something along those lines. Or recruit more athletes who can run out a game but don't necessarily have the skills
If you can find me one game from 10+ years ago that had everyone within 70 meters of the ball then I’ll agree with you
Till then, bring on the starting positions!!
Does anyone have a table that lists the prices of hotdogs at all the stadiums?
I laughed when BT complained about all the players in one section of the ground, saying it was a reason for having starting positions, and Bartel having to point out it wasn't a stoppage, and therefore starting positions would have no effect. Most of the time, your starting positions rule will have no affect on congestion at all. Also, I have seen brilliant footy with everyone withing 70m of the ball. Congestion isn't bad football, or even ugly football, its just congested. You can have bad ugly open footy, you can have good close attractive congested footy.
I remember that moment. It was a ball up or throw in about 20 meters from goal wasn’t it?? So a stoppage...
I disagree about good football with everyone around the ball. Yes it’s physical etc etc, but rugby union has that and that’s a horrendous sport
It stifles the true talents of the game and brings everyone down to a certain level.
Similar threads
