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Maybe you would care to explain ?

If the players aren't accountable for their display, then who is ?

They are professionals earning high salaries, any other professional in their field is accountable for their performances.

They have performed badly two weeks in a row, the losses aren't the worst of it, the way we lost is of major concern. They are not doing the basics like hitting a target, tackling, getting to a contest, creating a contest, helping their teammates, presenting options.

All these attributes of the game are down to the individuals application. Robbins and Murphy showed the example, a very few others followed.

There are no excuses.
 

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**** it, i'll just come out with what i think...

Peter Rohde is by far the worst coach i have ever had the displeasure of seeing head a Bulldog team.

His game plan is nothing more than Wallaces in sheeps clothing, and his decision making is apalling. At least with Wallace you knew what he was either doing or attempting to do when he threw things in to try and mix it up, Rohde you just have no freaking idea what the hell he's up to. *

It's horrible to watch him play the small forward line whilst taller players like Wiggins sit on the bench.

His first three games has seen him go back to the same game plan that he starts with the match with after half time. The only problem being that the game plan he starts with see's us play poor unaccountable football and more often than not, have goals scored on us in more than two.

Yes, the players are the ones that play the game, but by gee by jingo by crickey, the guy in the box needs to know what the **** he is doing, and i don't believe that Rohde has a CLUE what he's doing.

I lay the blame of our poor showings squarely at the feet of the coach.


*As said to me by SigScotty
 
Yes I would like to know what it is as well.
You carry on like you know everything and quick to criticise other posters so lets here your theories without all the histrionics.
 
Originally posted by -PC28-.

Peter Rohde is by far the worst coach i have ever had the displeasure of seeing head a Bulldog team.
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There were a lot of decisions made by Rohde yesterday that I didnt quite understand. The main one for me was the decision to keep Croft in the forward line for the entire first quarter. Bassett was way too small for Neitz and after he kicked 2 goals early in the quarter Crofty should have been moved back onto him.

I still think it is a bit early to be criticising Rohde's gameplan as it does take a long time for a NEW coaches gameplan to get through to the players. Think about it, most of these guys have played Wallace's type of football for at least 3 years. I think we can only judge Rohde after about 12 weeks. Until then i will reserve my judgement.
 
Originally posted by SCRAY72
Yes I would like to know what it is as well.
You carry on like you know everything and quick to criticise other posters so lets here your theories without all the histrionics.
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I do fancy myself as a bit of a Thespian at times, where as i just fancy you are a bit of a toss pot.

However, i have never, nor do i claim to know everything. This comment is a bit rich coming from someone who posts ins and outs at the start of the week like you're the man in the know.
 
Originally posted by Borgsta

I still think it is a bit early to be criticising Rohde's gameplan as it does take a long time for a NEW coaches gameplan to get through to the players. Think about it, most of these guys have played Wallace's type of football for at least 3 years. I think we can only judge Rohde after about 12 weeks. Until then i will reserve my judgement.
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Fair call Borgsta, and welcome to the BF Kennel.

If you're right, then i will be the first in line for my slice of humble pie, however i'll stick to my views for the time being.
 
Originally posted by Borgsta
There were a lot of decisions made by Rohde yesterday that I didnt quite understand. The main one for me was the decision to keep Croft in the forward line for the entire first quarter. Bassett was way too small for Neitz and after he kicked 2 goals early in the quarter Crofty should have been moved back onto him.
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I was amazed Crofty played and I think starting him in the forward was designed so he rest, get the pace of the game and play it out without tiring.
 
Originally posted by -PC28-
I do fancy myself as a bit of a Thespian at times, where as i just fancy you are a bit of a toss pot.

However, i have never, nor do i claim to know everything. This comment is a bit rich coming from someone who posts ins and outs at the start of the week like you're the man in the know.
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As I said you carry on a bit. I won't get dragged into a slanging match with you, you might call me names again.

For the record Royce Hart is the worst coach we have ever had.
 
Originally posted by Borgsta
I still think it is a bit early to be criticising Rohde's gameplan as it does take a long time for a NEW coaches gameplan to get through to the players. Think about it, most of these guys have played Wallace's type of football for at least 3 years. I think we can only judge Rohde after about 12 weeks. Until then i will reserve my judgement.
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Agreed. Everyone expects us to be world beater from day 1 of the new coach. Wallace basically had 1/2 a season before he put anything on the board.

I think at the half way mark, if no new players have stood out and/or established players have gone backwards then its time.
 
Originally posted by Chops
Agreed. Everyone expects us to be world beater from day 1 of the new coach. Wallace basically had 1/2 a season before he put anything on the board.

I think at the half way mark, if no new players have stood out and/or established players have gone backwards then its time.
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I agree. Note that it's taken Pagan only three weeks to get a pretty good win from the Blues, with some of their duds suddenly looking like stars. Laidley, brand-new coach, has managed a draw with the premiers and should have won it but for the timekeeper's sense of the dramatic.

Rohde has premierships on his resume so presumably he should have some idea what he's doing.

Basically we can only blame the cattle.
 
Originally posted by Curly5

Rohde has premierships on his resume so presumably he should have some idea what he's doing.

Basically we can only blame the cattle.
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That doesn't make any sense.

We have the same core that we did when we were successful late 90's, we all go on about how good the young guys are under Claytons selections, thus meaning we have a better side than one that finished 13th last year and have gone 1-2 this year against some poor opposition.

That said, i do believe we have a good side, however, i think Rohde has to pull his head out of the backside and make this side play together. He's not coaching Norwood anymore, he's coaching at the elite level.

We have brilliant players, servicable players and players that are ready to take a step up and be second tier players, but they're not going to do it under Rohde.
 

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It's a harsh call to be too critical of Rohde yet.

He's made it clear he wants accountability and physicality in the game plan. He'll be judged on whether he achieves that over the course of this year, not over 3 weeks.

He's going to need to make examples of players. Start dragging and dropping until the message gets through. If he doesn't have the balls to do it, then he (and we) will have to live with the consequences of going soft on a soft team.
 
Originally posted by -PC28-
<b>Fair call Borgsta, and welcome to the BF Kennel.[/b]
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Thanks PC.

Originally posted by K9-54
He's going to need to make examples of players. Start dragging and dropping until the message gets through. If he doesn't have the balls to do it, then he (and we) will have to live with the consequences of going soft on a soft team.
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Agreed, i think he is going to have to start forcing players to listen to his gameplan. I was sitting behind the interchange bench yesterday and I noticed the Gia was on the bench for a long time (end of 1st, start of 2nd). I don't know if this had something to do with his slackness at the start of the game, but after that long spell he played a really good 2nd half. Don't know if it had anything to do with Rohde, but at least he benched someone for underperforming.
 
Rohdes gameplan isn't the same as Wallaces, the players however are not playing to Rohdes plan, but are playing the same was as last year. The players need to change
 
Originally posted by -PC28-
Yeah you're right. I can't remember ever seeing the shortest forward line in the world set up with Wallace.
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And thats the whole gameplan is it???
 
Give Rhodes a go. We won our first two games under him and the one against the Woods was brilliant. I would agree though that Crofty should have started on Neitz and Browny could've been moved out but if the matchups had worked he would've been a mastermind.

Royce Hart was one of my fave players but has a firm grip on title of worst coach. Alan Joyce was successful to start with wasn't he?
 
Due to Sydney TV coverage and ability to get to the Foxtel enabled club, I've only seen the Geelong game, but can understand what happened in the next two games form your posts and game reports.

I thought we pretty intense and accountable in Round 1 - so what do you reckon has happened since?
 
Originally posted by Dry Rot
I thought we pretty intense and accountable in Round 1 - so what do you reckon has happened since?
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We lost Grant - more inportantly, we lost Grant's onfield leadership. I am not hanging **** on Westy but we really are lacking a leader out on the field; the type of bloke that will a) Win the ball and B) get others into the game via talk / playmaking and encouragement.

There didn't seem to be much intensity and desire in the players which in the past blokes like Wynd, Grant, Libba etc have been able to instill in the others. A few of the younger blokes looked lost and were beaten in contests but no one went over to them and gave a "head up mate, keep trying" gesture and certainly no one pushed hard to help them out in the contests. Power and Shaggy looked like they needed a bit of back up and encouragement and they never recieved it, now whether or not that stops there opponent from getting a touch can't be said but geez.... In a team sport you always try a little harder when you know your mates are helping you out and are prepared to get over and offer some encouragement. I am sure the likes of Shaggy, Power, McMahon would walk that little taller if the "leadership" group did something to inspire a bit of emotion and passion into them.


Its a bit too early to be getting the knives out for Rohde at the moment IMO. I was dissapointed with his game on Sunday and was bamboozled by a few of his decisions ie- Hahn not startig in the middle, Wiggins sitting on the bench, Croft playing forward whilst Basset et al were being murdered. Maybe if things keep heading the way they are over the next 3-4 weeks without Rohde trying something new / punishing blokes for not being accountable, physical etc. I will start calling for the chop, but not quite yet. Give the bloke a chance.
 

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