You said he plays kick to kick in the backline - since late 2022 he has pretty much played every game on the wing or in the midfield. Wouldn't surprise me if he has had more minutes up forward then he does in defence in that period
The heat maps in 2023 show a number of games whereby he spent 80% in the defensive half. I only went back to post the bye as well. Apart from 1 or 2 games where he spent about 50% back, the others show otherwise.
Defensive half on the wing maybe - he very rarely played inside D50.
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Me too, better leave this thread alone.
My own posts were deleted for the same reason
You better not defend Docherty. He’s overrated.
I don't get offended by other supporters calling our players overrated - that would be silly. My posts have not been related to our own players being called overrated but general discussions about AA
I am actually embarrassed I missed the #1 over rated player in the comp in Aaron Naughton.. everyone on my list slides down..
Don’t disagree, average midfielder and plays the easiest role in footy when he plays back.. same with guys like Daniel Rioli, Daniel Rich and Nick Daicos which is why until he became.a genuine midfielder he wasn’t in the conversation for best player in the comp.. has changed that now and is rightfully spoken about in the same breath as Cripps, Neale, Petracca & Butters.
You do realise Sam Docherty is rated average to below average in most metrics as a midfielder.
You seem to place no value on how players perform in big games.
Boy this is a bad take if legit. Doc has literally come back from cancer twice as well as injuries and slots in wherever we need him to. He'll go down as a club legend at least, and I didn't think he was necessarily overrated in the wider comp. He's no superstar but a very good player and the heart of Pharlap, any club would love to have his ilk.
Given Nick Daicos led the Brownlow and Coaches Award for most of the year playing half-back, and the next batch of super draftees are being groomed to play Daicos’ role to have similar impact on games, that is probably a poor assessment by you.
This is... An unusually balanced post Fadge. Think that's pretty bang on.
You know Nick Daicos in his second year, playing 50% of his time midfield has better in practically every midfield than Docherty. Including clearances, contested possessions, goals, goals assists, score involvements, ground ball gets etc.
You know you have only measured disposals here. That ‘kick to kick’ is working wonders for Docherty which explains how elite he is in uncontested marks. I’ve educated you on the ‘real’ measures that separate the best from the rest. Thanks for proving my point. Guys like yourself overrate your own players because they get lots of kicks……
You claimed that he was a defender and then use stats like contested possessions and goals to provide evidence of him being overrated...?
You need to keep up.
I said he moved into the midfield (wing) and you argued with it saying no he didn't - so I guess that was where I was confused. Docherty is nothing like Neale, Petracca or Butters who are permanent inside mids. Docherty is primarily a winger who plays a bigger inside mid role when we have injuries.
