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Right, back on the horse.
Where are we in this never ending circle discussion?
Right, back on the horse.
Where are we in this never ending circle discussion?
Word is we have 4 picks in the top 40
Yeah I've seen him a few times. His way overrated. Just a accumulator. Doesn't do much with the ball. But these days that's all people look at is the stat sheet so he will do well with no impact at all on the actual game.Ashcroft racks up a lot of cheap 1-2 possessions but isn't very damaging.
So the Norf assistance has been announced, and assuming they finish near the bottom again they will be looking at 2023 pick 20ish and late 30's that they must trade out this draft period.
I guess they'll look at who they can get for them, and if no player (Logue) ends up being in play then they could be traded together for a 16-17 2022 pick. Personally I think they will try to use the future third for Logue but end up having to pay the future second. Or maybe their 2 x future 3rds gets it done?
With Norf holding pick 1 then nothing until the 4th round (55ish), and no untied standout, surely they have to look at splitting pick 1 into at least two draft picks?
Right, back on the horse.
Where are we in this never ending circle discussion?
Gold Coast have some nice academy prospects for next year, so those last 3 picks will likely be swapped for picks next year. Jed Walter looks top 5 at this stage.It only just clicked to me that the two expansion clubs are shaping up to have 11 picks in the first two rounds between them:
- GWS: 3, 12, 18, 19, 21 and 30
- Gold Coast: 5, 7, 25, 31 and 34
Taking likely RFA compensation and F/S bidding into account, those picks become the following:
- GWS: 4, 13, 21, 23, 25 and 36
- Gold Coast: 6, 8, 29, 37 and 40
Surely neither club will be making use of all of those selections - so expecting to see some dumping occur as they try to gain more value out of fewer picks.
Gold Coast have some nice academy prospects for next year, so those last 3 picks will likely be swapped for picks next year. Jed Walter looks top 5 at this stage.
To be fair a lot of people were saying that about Daicos last year and look at what he was able to achieve this year.Yeah I've seen him a few times. His way overrated. Just a accumulator. Doesn't do much with the ball. But these days that's all people look at is the stat sheet so he will do well with no impact at all on the actual game.
Neale will sort that out.Ashcroft racks up a lot of cheap 1-2 possessions but isn't very damaging.
And then they have a JUH clone in the 2024 draft.Ethan Read looks pretty bloody good too, looking like a late first early second to me.
Two KPP that can both do boundary and stoppage ruck work.
GC have been kissed on the dick, with access to that pair.
And then they have a JUH clone in the 2024 draft.
I see deals with the Suns, Crows and Lions coming to hand.
DEAL 1
3 way trade with Suns, Crows and Eagles
Crows give up 5 and 23 and get Rankin
Suns give up Rankin and get pick 2 The Suns then get one of Tsatas or Sheezel which they would benefit from.
WC give up 2 and get 5 and 23
(5 and 23 values Rankin at 2 which is about right while 2 gets a premium of 170 points which is light but OK)
The Suns at 2 then get one of Tsatas or Sheezel which they would benefit from. Plus they can later slide back from 7 to 12'ish to land Hollands and maybe an extra future pick.
DEAL 2
Trade with Suns and give them a future 3rd (let's say 38) for picks 43, 52, 67 and 70 worth 732 points. Tipped in our favour yes but these are rats and mice points and not of value except for matching in a year with few academy prospects. if needed, I would give up a future R4.
DEAL 3
Trade with Lions picks 26, 38, 43, 52, 67 and 70 worth 1,926 points for 15 and Robertson (values Robertson as pick 24). Lions can then on-sell pick 26 at a premium and end up with 2,000 points plus all of 2023 picks in tact plus 2022 33, 44 and 69
We finish the trade period with:-
Robertson, 5, 15, 20, 23 and 25 plus Ports future R2
Lost Rioli and future R3
The Draft preferred option bolded
Pick 5 - Phillipou, Clark, Cadman or Busslinger
Pick 15 - Hotton, Ginbey or Hewett
Pick 20 - Barnet, Keeler or George
Pick 23 - Szybkowski, Weddle, , or D'Aloia
Pick 25 - Jakob Ryan, Konstanty or Burgiel
The beauty about Phillipou and Hotton is that they also play HFF very well. That gives them a leg up to start earlier as there will be opportunities until they get the right body shape.
5 Picks inside 25 (25 becomes 30) plus Robertson
We have lost Rioli but we have a future R2 yet lost a future R3
If we lose Nelson, there is a later compo pick we get and use it on Jones or Broadbent or Gilbey.
Decide whether we keep Witherden, Winder etc of go for a couple of rookies. I think we are missing a general forwards but as said, the balanced mids, Sheed, Shuey, Kelly can all play as forwards
Looking at our list in 2023
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I see deals with the Suns, Crows and Lions coming to hand.
DEAL 1
3 way trade with Suns, Crows and Eagles
Crows give up 5 and 23 and get Rankin
Suns give up Rankin and get pick 2 The Suns then get one of Tsatas or Sheezel which they would benefit from.
WC give up 2 and get 5 and 23
(5 and 23 values Rankin at 2 which is about right while 2 gets a premium of 170 points which is light but OK)
The Suns at 2 then get one of Tsatas or Sheezel which they would benefit from. Plus they can later slide back from 7 to 12'ish to land Hollands and maybe an extra future pick.
DEAL 2
Trade with Suns and give them a future 3rd (let's say 38) for picks 43, 52, 67 and 70 worth 732 points. Tipped in our favour yes but these are rats and mice points and not of value except for matching in a year with few academy prospects. if needed, I would give up a future R4.
DEAL 3
Trade with Lions picks 26, 38, 43, 52, 67 and 70 worth 1,926 points for 15 and Robertson (values Robertson as pick 24). Lions can then on-sell pick 26 at a premium and end up with 2,000 points plus all of 2023 picks in tact plus 2022 33, 44 and 69
We finish the trade period with:-
Robertson, 5, 15, 20, 23 and 25 plus Ports future R2
Lost Rioli and future R3
The Draft preferred option bolded
Pick 5 - Phillipou, Clark, Cadman or Busslinger
Pick 15 - Hotton, Ginbey or Hewett
Pick 20 - Barnet, Keeler or George
Pick 23 - Szybkowski, Weddle, , or D'Aloia
Pick 25 - Jakob Ryan, Konstanty or Burgiel
Sure - that could be a Suns R3. It does not change much in the equation. We would not sell 2 for anything less than 5 and 23.IMO Crows will not trade 5 and 23 for just Rankin.
They would need something else coming back.
Sure - that could be a Suns R3. It does not change much in the equation. We would not sell 2 for anything less than 5 and 23.
Goodness knows there are enough - they have 2 x R3 and 2 x R4.
Ok Guys buckle up for some drawn out, complexed, convoluted head scratching proposals.
God help us all, as we now have a tag team of Asterix The Gaul and Obeanie1 combined….. plotting and scheming together as they connive to exploit, rape, pillage and plunder other Clubs for the ultimate, draft capital sting.
Should be a entertaining read ….. guaranteed to be complexed but still entertaining, as our boards two most prolific theoretical draft capital traders work in unison.![]()
Only problem going after Essendon's pick 22 is dealing with Dodoro. I expect he will want to trade up and get a pick before Davy Jnr. Not sure what they can do as they only have 40 and 58 after 22. Anyway, dealing with Essendon usually means deals get done late and in a hurry.What about 2 and a future 3rd for 5, 25, 31 and 43?
Then we then go shopping to the Lions 1st and or Essendon for their 23?
What would some mix of 26, 31, 38 and 43 land us?
Hoping for a future 2nd for Rioli and bank it.
What even more interesting is the AFL allowing salary cap dump deals more than ever before.
Wonder if that can be straight out cap $$ for picks?
Just think how much MORE fun Asterix and I can have with another dimension to play with!![]()