Coach Alastair Clarkson III - new NMFC senior coach until at least end 2027 - NMFC board approved AC to start 1/11 amid ongoing HFC racism investigation

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Ffs. I just wish we could just enjoy footy again. North cannot be a part of this. Clarkson’s position is untenable now in my opinion. And if we have to somehow payout this kind of contract before it’s even begun, we can kiss our club goodbye.

Untenable based on an unproven report? Gees, we have some people here with emotional intelligence of a 12 year old


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Let’s not bring back the 1960s here please. No way would this stay quiet if any of it were true. This is a complete shambles of an attempt by Hawthorn to appear clean while trying to tarnish their former employees. But nothing will be proven and I hope if that’s the case, this so called great reporter will be made accountable.


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That’s a huge mental leap
 

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Untenable based on an unproven report? Gees, we have some people here with emotional intelligence of a 12 year old


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You are casting doubt on the allegations just the same as a presumption of innocence, you can’t dismiss the allegations.
 
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Settle down.

The club isn't going to back him until the review plays out. Likely that Fagan and Clarkson are stood down until the review is complete. I assume we'll have Patch takeover with another search taking place worst case scenario. Clarkson would understand that completely.

To stand people down based on an unproven report that alleges things that supposedly took place many years ago and have never been corroborated anywhere? FFS!


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The Brisbane Lions have released a statement.

"The Brisbane Lions are aware Senior Coach Chris Fagan will work with the AFL on an investigation into allegations concerning historical events at the Hawthorn Football Club, where he was a former employee," the statement read.

"Chris supports and welcomes the investigation.

"He was not consulted during the Hawthorn sponsored review and looks forward to the opportunity to be heard as part of the AFL investigation.

"The Brisbane Lions and Chris have mutually agreed that he will take a leave of absence from the Club so he can fully cooperate in the investigation.

"As the matters are now with the AFL Integrity Unit, the Brisbane Lions won't make any further comment at this stage."
 
It sucks. But it's a good thing for your club that it's happened now and not later. Silver lining and all.

Kick him to the curb, pick whoever was No2 on the list and start fresh. Your list manager will cover trade period. Preseason doesn't start for another 8-10 weeks. You new coach will be in the big seat before then.
 
No, the point is, it wasn't known outside the individuals involved. This is a huge story but there was not one inkling of it over the years that have passed. So, there is a reason why our board didn't know. It's the same reason why no-one else in football knew.

You've been such a rubbish "supporter" lately.
I wonder if this is why Jeff Kennett wanted to get rid of Clarko all those years. Not that Jeff is a clean skin himself but he is a political animal and knew this would be found out one day and blow up.
 
Gutted and apologetic this has impacted your club.
Been a dark day for all.


No need to apologise as a supporter Tyler. None of this is your doing as a passionate proud member supporting your team week in week out.

We are North.
. Carey
. Shaw
. Noble.

Adversity comes with the membership and free scarf or hat every year down here.
 
How is it that Fagan was not consulted during the review? This was taken from the Lions press release.


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The way I read the ABC report the review only consulted with First Nations players and only contains their allegations.

Further investigation is definitely required.
 

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It sucks. But it's a good thing for your club that it's happened now and not later. Silver lining and all.

Kick him to the curb, pick whoever was No2 on the list and start fresh. Your list manager will cover trade period. Preseason doesn't start for another 8-10 weeks. You new coach will be in the big seat before then.
Yeah at least there is that its the start of the season and Clarko hasn't been coach for a year and a half or some period then you have to reset again.
 
Technically we can’t stand down anyone that’s not employed by us as of yet. So not sure what our statement will be.

Suspect the announcement of involvement with the investigation will come from Clarkson or his representatives.
What you can be assured of is that Sonja will not knee jerk a response. She will take an appropriate and measured approach. That's her track record to date.
 
Something here smells of Hawthorn not being entirely honest and transparent here in conducting this report, to put it mildly.

While there are plenty of unproven allegations, let’s put them aside for the time being and look at the FACTS:

  • Clarko has a great standing in the game, very good reputation and is widely respected.
  • Very similar things can be said of Fagan
  • Both coaches have great relationships with a number of indigenous players, including those who joined from other clubs and haven’t said one bad thing about either coach. Won’t bother listing names here
  • Some of these players are seriously considering coming to North just to be reunited with former coach
  • Hawthorn’s president has been well documented for having issues with dealing with indigenous players with Rioli case being a recent public example of this. Yet not one comment today has mentioned Kennett as part of the problem, in fact it’s been said the club is now a great place for indigenous players, despite Kennett still being there and Rioli refusing to come back to the club
  • add to that the somewhat weird timing of this report, something tells me it’s not 100% full of integrity, once again to put it mildly.

But some people don’t like to look at the facts, instead preferring to jump out of their pants with righteous and presumptuous comments


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Add to the above:

Why did the AFL receive a report from the Hawks a week ago that didn’t include some of the more serious allegations?
 
I’m 100% confident it will blow over soon and will be almost completely forgotten by the time preseason training starts


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No shit, you've been downplaying it all morning.
Fact of the matter is this is not something that will go away overnight no matter how much you want it to.
 
He hasn't started yet. So, Clarko at best will not turn up to work day 1 whilst they sort out if there is any substance to it.

What a debacle for NMFC.
Except he has started, just not officially. He's set his office up already. It's my the Hawks came out and reminded him he couldn't contact anyone from there until 1 Nov.
 
How is it that Fagan was not consulted during the review? This was taken from the Lions press release.


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this is what im saying doesnt make sense to not have included clarko and fagan in the investigation especailly once you decide you are going to report on them calling them out

reporter has taken a big leap of faith publishing this without getting other sides to the story
 
We should ask Mark Williams in the interim. That would show intent to our indigenous players. Clarko has to stand down. No question of choice.

While we may be in a bit of a hole if this goes in a bad direction, turning to a minor hit 1990s singer isn't the answer either.
 
Technically we can’t stand down someone that is not employed by us yet. So not sure what our statement will be.

Suspect the announcement of involvement with the investigation will come from Clarkson or his representatives.

Shouldn’t it just be something along the lines of very concerned about the allegations, Alistair starts his in employment with us on Nov 1st and we’ll be reviewing the ongoing situation.
 
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