Oppo Camp Non-Essendon Football Thread XVI

[Pweter]

Kane "long term deals should never be done" Cornes ticking off JHF getting 6 years.

Certainly won't stop him saying it was a bad idea if JHF doesn't develop into what they want/hope/need in 3 years time, whether that be through development or injury

 

[Call Me Cake]

Port essentially got the #1 draft pick for finishing 2nd in 2021.

Geelong gains #7 after winning a flag.

Not sure how I feel about that from an equalisation aspect. Puts a sour taste in my mouth tbh.

 

[faible]

Port essentially got the #1 draft pick for finishing 2nd in 2021.

That's not really accurate at all.

 

[andleanback]

You just think Jason drafted to any other club in Victoria and he’s staying. Still can’t believe north let him move in with ccj when he first came to Victoria. He’s your most important asset and you’re letting him move in with a guy that’s never even been around your club before and had behavior indiscretions at his former club. Full amateur hour.

 

[Corleone]

You just think Jason drafted to any other club in Victoria and he’s staying. Still can’t believe north let him move in with ccj when he first came to Victoria. He’s your most important asset and you’re letting him move in with a guy that’s never even been around your club before and had behavior indiscretions at his former club. Full amateur hour.

Yeah, I almost feel bad for them ...

 

[Call Me Cake]

That's not really accurate at all.

I was obviously speaking metaphorically. In fact, you could say it is even better because he's a year in.

Yes, I am aware that Port has traded #8 and a future first. But Jase will be a much better player than #8 will be, and they had a first rounder before us choosing Hobbs last year. Evens out. And while my original assessment of Port's list, prior to the inclusion of their trades, was that they were a lackluster side, they could do a little better in 2023 than they've done so this year and it still wouldn't touch the equivalent of a #1 + a first rounder in 2021 - something a team who finishes 2nd should not be privy to.

 

[faible]

I was obviously speaking metaphorically. In fact, you could say it is even better because he's a year in.

Yes, I am aware that Port has traded #8 and a future first. But Jase will be a much better player than #8 will be, and they had a first rounder before us choosing Hobbs last year. Evens out. And while my original assessment of Port's list, prior to the inclusion of their trades, was that they were a lackluster side, they could do a little better in 2023 than they've done so this year and it still wouldn't touch the equivalent of a #1 + a first rounder in 2021 - something a team who finishes 2nd should not be privy to.

Will he be a much better player though?

Port got a decent deal on his potential, but have given up #8 and a future pick around 10 - 12 for him as a team that finished mid-table this year.

If you want to get outraged about a trade, do so about Bowes + 7 for an F3.

 

[Call Me Cake]

Will he be a much better player though?

Port got a decent deal on his potential, but have given up #8 and a future pick around 10 - 12 for him as a team that finished mid-table this year.

If you want to get outraged about a trade, do so about Bowes + 7 for an F3.

They didn't actually give up a first rounder this year, as they've have had two first rounders last year.

Basically #1 + #12 (2021) for #8 (2022) + F1 (2023)

Farce, especially considering they've been on top recently and have the ability to do better than this year.

My point was also critical of the Geelong scenario and they're both a slap in the face to the fairness of the competition.

 

[faible]

They didn't actually give up a first rounder this year

#8 (2022)

They did though, as you said yourself.

 

[Corleone]

It's good to see JHF state that the uncertainty surrounding Clarkson and North moving forwards was a factor in his decision making.

The more this issue is talked about the less likely the AFL will be able to sweep it under a rug.

Wonder how Sonja's Plan B is coming along ...

 

[Pweter]

Hopper now a Tiger too for a F1 and 31, late picks going back the other way.

Gee some clubs are getting a leg up on the rest this trade period in Cats, Tigers, Port. Could add Brisbane to that list if they land Dunkley given they've got Gunston (they need some consistency in their forward line), plus Ashcroft and Fletcher coming in.

 

[citizen-erased]

What a period to pick to be a shitshow

Every chance we could have added dunkley, bowes and hopper for the price of picks 22, 41 and a small pick downgrade

41 for bowes and 7
4 and 22 for dunkley and 11
11 for hopper and change

Fully expect rules to be tightened moving forward

 

[Nifft]

Fully expect rules to be tightened moving forward

 

[Call Me Cake]

They did though, as you said yourself.

Which was negated by having a first rounder after #1 last year.

Wake up bruh

 

[faible]

Which was negated by having a first rounder after #1 last year.

Wake up bruh

There's a lot of mental gymnastics going on for you to try to make the argument you're trying to make.

Port have trade two first round selections for JHF. They didn't get a 'bonus' first round selection.

 

[Eleven 38]

This is an absolute disaster for the AFL.

2 expansion clubs who didn't make finals have to trade players out instead of improving their lists.

And 2 of the oldest clubs benefit.

 

[citizen-erased]

This is an absolute disaster for the AFL.

2 expansion clubs who didn't make finals have to trade players out instead of improving their lists.

And 2 of the oldest clubs benefit.

Who have won 7 of the last 15 GFs

AFL - incompetent at equalisation too

 

[raskolnikov]

Kochie defending Jason Horne Francis on Sunrise.

 

[windyhill]

“Pie for life” ****s off to Melbourne.

 

[BrunoV]

I'm a Mitchell fanboi, for what it's worth.

I dont mind their strategy. Mitchell and O'Meara are mediocre.

Newcombe is basically already leading that midfield, despite being a kid.

Worpel went from a best and fairest to a bit part player because he didn't fit in the team.

Maginness is a Scott Steiner level freak. Running power based on a 5:50 2km, he's at least 90kgs at 6'2 and ran Ed Langdon

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Ed Langdon

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

20.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

0.8

1star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star

out of a game. In his 4th year he's ready for prime midfield minutes.

Ward will be a gun, albeit he's a few years away.

Ned Long is a man child and may be capable of beating up opponents already in year 2 next year.

It's not sexy, no doubt. But their midfield never was. It's potentially brutally hard with a couple of elite two-way players. For the games they will lose for lack of experience they'll win games as a result of the enthusiasm of youth.

You'd prefer first round picks for guys they spent a lot on but that ship has sailed. Any system should be backing itself to develop 200 game players from picks inside 30, for sure.

 

[dank420_]

I'm a Mitchell fanboi, for what it's worth.

So is it Parish's haircut you don't like? Most of us would agree there.

 

[Dave]

Kochie defending Jason Horne Francis on Sunrise.

Shocked etc etc.

 

[ILikeCheese]

If Hawks land Cooper Stephens late they’ll have a nice beefy midfield building there.
Was hoping we’d be on that before we got Setterfield over the line

 

[BrunoV]

It just occurred to me that the Dogs have lost Zaine Cordy

21

Zaine Cordy

Age

28

Ht

195cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.6

3star

K

6.6

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

180.4

3star

D

8.1

2star

K

6.4

3star

HB

1.7

1star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.9

3star

MG

180.4

3star

D

6.8

2star

K

3.8

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

1.8

4star

.

They've probably won trade period on that alone.

Though as my Dogs supporting mate has suggested, Bevo may just pick 21 players out of grief.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Impressed by Hawks going the tank. Should be what we’re doing.