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I am curious to read the terms of reference but haven't been able to find them, despite the commentary on the AFL website saying they have been released. Have asked a couple of media mates who are also looking for them.
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That's not what those things mean.
There are studies that show women also have unconscious bias against hiring women for particular roles. Even women who supposedly are right against that sort of thing. Hence its an unconscious bias, not a deliberate one.
There is a concept in law called mens rea. It means men are real and everything else isn't.
There have been many unsubstantiated rumours written about meI heard you used to be on with Mary Magdelene.
I know I come across as pretty aggro about this stuff at times but most of the time it takes a bit of effort to get that out of me irl. I don't really feel proud about arcing up over that stuff anymore.
So growing up in the 80s at school in Moonee Ponds there was a real Wogs v Skips thing that I didn't really fit into. There was a kid called Vito who some posters who went to school with me might remember. Went to Italy in high school, came back a year later and when I asked him what it was like he said:
"It was weird. There are no wogs in Italy. They're all just like you skips." That waseyemind opening for more than one reason. (I'd never identified as a skip before... lol.)
Classical example of modern faux rage syndrome.I too accidentally listened to a repeat show last Saturday morning on the way to work. * knows why or what I was thinking, I believe I couldn’t find a song that could cheer me up at 530am on any other station.
As I listened it was a call back show on how its a disgrace, that the forced abortion was abhorrent (which is void of fact). Their callers started piling on.
I was shocked at the sincere convictions people had come to based on absolutely no ******* proof or evidence.
Echo chambersGreat attitude to have Ferbs, I wish more people could have it. My parents and grandparents generation seemed to be better in that regard, and I try to follow suit by not blowing up friendships just because of some differences in opinions or attitudes. It's one reason why I'm more interested in understanding the other side than I am in winning arguments against them. I feel a bit sad sometimes at some of the 'debates' I see, good faith appears to have gone out of fashion.
Personally I blame the internet for making it the easiest it has ever been to self select social circles from a young age. Previously you were pretty much stuck with people in physical proximity, so you either agreed with them (more likely anyway because those around you have an increased chance of holding the same beliefs) or else it was bloody difficult to cut them out of your life, so you just learnt to agree to disagree.
Echo chambers
Yep, also giving each other shit about the lunches your mum packed for ya.Essendon High School early to mid 80s had a daily wogs v skips battle.
More in jest and fun than anything else but boy did we love s**t stirring each other at school.
By year 10 and above we’d be partying together on the weekend and return to hostilities during the week.
We did stick together whenever a rival school was threatening to come visit us for a rumble at Aberfeldie park.
Those were the days.
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Same thing down in Melton. When we got bored of the skips vs wogs games we created a union - SWAT (skips wogs & Asians together) and took out our smartarse tendencies on teachers instead.Essendon High School early to mid 80s had a daily wogs v skips battle.
More in jest and fun than anything else but boy did we love s**t stirring each other at school.
By year 10 and above we’d be partying together on the weekend and return to hostilities during the week.
We did stick together whenever a rival school was threatening to come visit us for a rumble at Aberfeldie park.
Those were the days.
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Unless they've been feeling this way the whole time and had no one to tell.
Or coincidental?It seems ironic to post that in this thread
I feel as though all of us are somehow hardwired to fear or at the very least be suspicious of others that are “different to ourselves in colour, look or speech or for the way they pray”.I have friends who have racist attitudes but aren't racist - they don't treat people differently based on skin colour or ancestry. They just get exposed to Sydney radio.
Some of our discussions get quite heated but we never hold them against each other.
Its a very intense issue but people (on both sides) acting with respect and in good faith can build good relationships.
Prolly more bullying towards povvo kids at my school. Coincidentally in early school some students were branded wogs as in germs. There were the odd Mediterranean kids but didnt really get singled out much. One kid called dennis kafelenocks used to live close to the school and would nip home at recess raiding his parents freezer bringing zooper doopers to the kids, as you could imagine he was pretty popular.Same thing down in Melton. When we got bored of the skips vs wogs games we created a union - SWAT (skips wogs & Asians together) and took out our smartarse tendencies on teachers instead.
Yeah this is the problem. As DocSholl said it shouldn't be taken as a criticism. Its just the situation. Everyone has to do it tough at times.Merely pointing out the buzz words are used by media and lay persons immediately assume guilt because of the use of the wording!!!
Its probably just the rhetoric that goes with these situations.It's possible, sure, but it doesn't justify the claim that they would now feel 'betrayed' and 'heartbroken' if Clarko and Fagan went back to work.
Exactly. Classic example was caro naming jed in the context of the hawks report with zero evidence. Not just buzzwords but framing of reporting.Merely pointing out the buzz words are used by media and lay persons immediately assume guilt because of the use of the wording!!!
Did Vito look like this ?I know I come across as pretty aggro about this stuff at times but most of the time it takes a bit of effort to get that out of me irl. I don't really feel proud about arcing up over that stuff anymore.
So growing up in the 80s at school in Moonee Ponds there was a real Wogs v Skips thing that I didn't really fit into. There was a kid called Vito who some posters who went to school with me might remember. Went to Italy in high school, came back a year later and when I asked him what it was like he said:
"It was weird. There are no wogs in Italy. They're all just like you skips." That waseyemind opening for more than one reason. (I'd never identified as a skip before... lol.)
That is the weirdest looking pack of smiths crisps I have ever seen! The packet looks like a book.Did Vito look like this ?
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That is the weirdest looking pack of smiths crisps I have ever seen! The packet looks like a book.
In that case I don't think they (at least clarko and fagen) will ask for money, probably just a retraction, potentially still anonymously. If you are looking for harm minimisation then that's your best ticket.Yep I know the 3 and I’ve heard the counter abortion argument too plus quite a few other stories about allegations made by all 3 and none of it makes sense. As others have said this will involve money/settlements and then changes in the industry and all parties move on.
Sure it wasnt Dionysus Kafelenos?Prolly more bullying towards povvo kids at my school. Coincidentally in early school some students were branded wogs as in germs. There were the odd Mediterranean kids but didnt really get singled out much. One kid called dennis kafelenocks used to live close to the school and would nip home at recess raiding his parents freezer bringing zooper doopers to the kids, as you could imagine he was pretty popular.