No Oppo Supporters OPPOSITION OBSERVATION XXXVI

[JAKLAUGHING]

I can’t see them coping very well with the stand rule

 

[Groupie_]

cripps totally shitfaced munted at the races

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

They were a very attacking side Kozi, even from the defensive end.
Just were so good at running with the ball, they didnt get caught out much.
Chris Johnson, Leppitsch, and Mcrae and Lappin loved to run forward from defense.

Soon fix that with our chaotic style of locking the ball in their defensive half and stopping that so called...very attacking side from the defensive end...we'd squeeze them to death with Rance leading the way...like a hungry python!

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

the asterik totally shitfaced munted at the races


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[kozi]

cripps totally shitfaced munted at the races


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Crying out to get Blooze man'd

 

[Lacustrus]

that Brisbane team wouldn't let us set up our defensive structure for long periods, which is why they could take us to task.

In our premiership years, one of they noticeable things was that we would go long periods without conceding a goal. Our pressure made team fumble and choke and we locked it in our fwd end.

That Brisbane team were insanely talented across every line, there is no way we would be able to contain them in the F50 for long periods of time.

Voss
Aker
Black
Lappin
Power
Headland
McCrae
Ashcroft
Johnson

Keating would be able to go H2H with Nank for aggression, and fringe mids like Notting, Hadley etc weren't duds.

We would also have to try and contain 3 power forwards in Brown, Lynch and Bradshaw, that's a bigger ask than what our backs come up against today.
And Leppa and Mal Michael were as good as a 1-2 KPD combo as there has been. and as much as I hate them now, the Scott brothers were good solid defenders who were hard and had speed.

The new up the ground game style would challenge them for sure... But the absolute natural ball winning footballer they have would also mean we wouldn't be able to contain them for long periods.

They are still the best 'side' (over a 3 year period) that I reckon I have seen.

I reckon you are under valuing our players and game plan

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

I reckon you are under valuing our players and game plan

And where the game would be played would have a slight bearing on choosing the winning side...then there are the maggotts(who hate RFC!) which ones?!? And what AFL rules are we going to be playing under?!? Pre STAND?!? or with STAND?!? Full back able to run a mile before kicking out?!? Only 6 defenders in the back half?!? Ruck nominations?!? How many on the bench?!

 

[Coach_Required]

I think people who doubt this don't quite realise how much more advanced the game has come in 20 years. I've got no doubt that even 2022 North would probably beat any premiership team pre-2005 ... including themselves when Carey was the GOAT. The tackle pressure alone since 2017 has skyrocketed, let alone the fitness levels and in-game strategies to take the oppositions best attributes away from them (f*** me, I'm started to sound like Kingy ... I need a holiday)

Had this same convo with a Brisbane flog on Twitter, today's game the way its played, the fitness levels, the pace and running involved, teams 20 years ago might be able to keep up for a half but would get absolutely flogged in the 2nd half. I have no doubt about it in my mind.

He said midfielders back then were far better than today, LOL

 

[Groupie_]

Crying out to get Blooze man'd

blooze man in the toilets injecting smack

 

[Coach_Required]

Greatest nonsense I've ever heard.
Give the great Lions teams of 2001-04, the Hawks juggernaut of the 80s and 90s and those brilliant Kangaroos teams access to today's training methods and preparation, advances in technology and exposure to current game trends and they would still be destroying sides, including most top four teams.
No substitute for class and high-end talent.
Yet, thrust into today's gams, the likes of Carey, Archer, Ablett, Voss, Brereton, Platten, Dunstall and co would be also rans.
I call bullshit.
Go watch the 89 grand final .. the Hawks gave an absolute masterclass in tackling and pressure for three quarters before running out of manpower.

Thats not the argument though, the argument is would today's teams beat teams of yesterday? They would absolutely smash them.

You also contradict yourself; your 1st paragraph is if those teams of yesterday had today's training methods, however your last paragraph is how great Hawthorn in 1989 were at running tackling & pressure.

Today's teams if matched with any old side, would absolutely brain them. The argument isn't would players of the past if given today's training methods beat today's teams.

 

[CASEYS9420]

Its such a stupid argument, 01-03 Lions would run rings around the 80's Hawks too, whats their point? Its amazing the Media never have the 17-20 Tigers contesting against the 13-15 Hawks which is the more realistic and fairer comparison. They know we'd win that contest 9-10 times so they never mention it.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

Agree with almost all of that. It's not as simple as just not allowing us to set up the way that we wanted though, we had a few more strings to our bow than just locking teams inside our forward 50

We wouldn't be able to contain them for long but we'd also cause them some issues going the other way. Those players are all offensive minded and never faced a team that played the way we did. Us at our peak would at least make a game out of it. Doubt they would blow us out or anything

Agree, I actually couldn't tell you who would win to be honest...

it would be fascinating to see, with all the so called changes to the game, all the coaching tactics etc, whether after 15 years, the best team is actually better that the original best team.

if their mids got enough of it regularly, then it would put our defensive structures under pressure, however, I doubt they could cope with our manic forward at all cost gamestyle.

To be absolutely simplistic, it would be their ability versus our gamestyle.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

I reckon you are under valuing our players and game plan

I am definitely not, but recency bias suggests it's easy to forget who bloody good that Brisbane team was.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

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[Coach_Required]

I am definitely not, but recency bias suggests it's easy to forget who bloody good that Brisbane team was.

No one denies how great that Brisbane side was, we all admit it was bloody fantastic watching them beat Collingwood twice during their era, they were a juggernaut but there is no way they would be able to keep up with the current speed and pace of the game over 4 quarters. They would simply run out of steam.

If the game was only played to half time, I'd be tempted to say then yes, they probably would be a goal or 2 up but the 2nd half would be a massacre.

 

[Groupie_]

No one denies how great that Brisbane side was, we all admit it was bloody fantastic watching them beat Collingwood twice during their era, they were a juggernaut but there is no way they would be able to keep up with the current speed and pace of the game over 4 quarters. They would simply run out of steam.

If the game was only played to half time, I'd be tempted to say then yes, they probably would be a goal or 2 up but the 2nd half would be a massacre.

fmd any team that builds a dynasty by beating colonwood twice in a granny has to be asterisked *

 

[Wooden Robot]

No one denies how great that Brisbane side was, we all admit it was bloody fantastic watching them beat Collingwood twice during their era, they were a juggernaut but there is no way they would be able to keep up with the current speed and pace of the game over 4 quarters. They would simply run out of steam.

If the game was only played to half time, I'd be tempted to say then yes, they probably would be a goal or 2 up but the 2nd half would be a massacre.

They were elite athletes .. of course they would keep up.
Not to mention the talent pool has been diluted with extra clubs.
More spuds getting around in the AFL than at any time in its history due to the number of teams.
Vossy, Akermanis, Black, Lappin wouldn't kee up. What f***** nonsense.

 

[Coach_Required]

fmd any team that builds a dynasty by beating colonwood twice in a granny has to be asterisked *

It was still ****ing awesome to watch. LOL

 

[Profop]

Thats not the argument though, the argument is would today's teams beat teams of yesterday? They would absolutely smash them.

You also contradict yourself; your 1st paragraph is if those teams of yesterday had today's training methods, however your last paragraph is how great Hawthorn in 1989 were at running tackling & pressure.

Today's teams if matched with any old side, would absolutely brain them. The argument isn't would players of the past if given today's training methods beat today's teams.

If the argument isn’t if players of the past playing today matching other teams of the past playing today (because in reality the Tigers are also a team of the past) then the whole discussion is a ridiculous waste of time and energy

It would be a close thing but I think they batted slightly deeper and had a stronger midfield

 

[Coach_Required]

They were elite athletes .. of course they would keep up.
Not to mention the talent pool has been diluted with extra clubs.
More spuds getting around in the AFL than at any time in its history due to the number of teams.
Vossy, Akermanis, Black, Lappin wouldn't kee up. What f***** nonsense.

They never ran the Km's players run today. That is in the stats, teams run far more Km's a game. Back then you only had a handful of players who remotely run that distance like Luke Power and Simon Black. Voss, Aker and Scott brothers never ran for that long, so no, I don't believe you when you say they would keep up.

 

[Hank Heavenly]

They never ran the Km's players run today. That is in the stats, teams run far more Km's a game. Back then you only had a handful of players who remotely run that distance like Luke Power and Simon Black. Voss, Aker and Scott brothers never ran for that long, so no, I don't believe you when you say they would keep up.

the only ones who didn't run bulk km's back then was the FF and FB, so Lynch and Michael... you are severely underestimating their fitness levels from that time.

 

[Meteoric Rise]

Nice little exchange with a salty Cats supporter on the Dusty GOAT thread….



Salty Cats Supporter: You're embarrassing yourself

Respectful Richmond supporter: Don’t be so vague. With what?

SCS: I mean you're still here arguing over something most astute football followers know simply isn't true - nor close to being true.

If you're generally not trolling you should log off for a few days and reset your engine.

RRS: “most astute football followers” “know simply isn’t true.” You should go ino business making watertight cases.

SCS: Well I think the poll speaks for itself.

Have fun.

SCS: I rate him(Dangerfield) a lot higher than Martin put it that way.

RRS:

But but but Mr Poll Speaks for Itself….

this happened once:

Dusty v Danger

This could be an interesting poll in delineating the importance of team success and big match performance in the public rankings of players, as the two players are otherwise very evenly matched. The football version of observing separated twins to study the effect of nurture vs nature...

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Groupie_]

Nice little exchange with a salty Cats supporter on the Dusty GOAT thread….



Salty Cats Supporter: You're embarrassing yourself

Respectful Richmond supporter: Don’t be so vague. With what?

SCS: I mean you're still here arguing over something most astute football followers know simply isn't true - nor close to being true.

If you're generally not trolling you should log off for a few days and reset your engine.

RRS: You should go ino business making watertight cases.

SCS: Well I think the poll speaks for itself.

Have fun.

SCS: I rate him(Dangerfield) a lot higher than Martin put it that way.

RRS:

nobody on earth rates danger higher than dusty

 

[Meteoric Rise]

nobody on earth rates danger higher than dusty

2 dickhead Cats fans who have had their heads messed up by Dusty smashing them senseless in 3 finals claim to rate danger higher than dusty.

The man my travelling companion and I loudly dubbed “liar Bob” who often frequented the Two Necked Swan in Yarmouth, UK, back in the days when we were light of heart, would be embarrassed to put his name to that statement.

 

[kozi]

Nice little exchange with a salty Cats supporter on the Dusty GOAT thread….



Salty Cats Supporter: You're embarrassing yourself

Respectful Richmond supporter: Don’t be so vague. With what?

SCS: I mean you're still here arguing over something most astute football followers know simply isn't true - nor close to being true.

If you're generally not trolling you should log off for a few days and reset your engine.

RRS: “most astute football followers” “know simply isn’t true.” You should go ino business making watertight cases.

SCS: Well I think the poll speaks for itself.

Have fun.

SCS: I rate him(Dangerfield) a lot higher than Martin put it that way.

RRS:

How do you have the stamina to keep going back and forth with these neanderthals. It's like talking to bricks