Training Preseason 2022/23 Talk & Media/Social Media etc.

[Scorpus]

Best not be chasing Caleb Serong or Connor Rozee if that's the case.....all OK though Lachie Neale scrapes in, pity about Patty Cripps and Jack Steele they miss out.

The handballing backwards to a teammate 5m away so he can run a bit further ahead and receive a 10m handball is just pure stat padding that offers nothing.

With the amount of possessions he get he needs to be averaging 350-400 meters gained a game. Last season he was below 250. Hasn't averaged above 350 since 2017

Yes, and all those other players average mid to high 20s for disposals at their best. Matt Crouch gets the ball in the low to mid 30s at his best, so he needs to average more meters

Career average meters gained per disposal

Matt Crouch - 10.0
Caleb Serong - 13.7
Connor Rozee - 13.5
Lachie Neale - 11.2
Patrick Cripps - 9.5
Jack Steele - 11.6

And a few more

Tom Mitchell - 11.4
Rory Laird - 12.6
Clayton Oliver - 11.5
Jackson Macrae - 11.9
Zach Merrett - 14.8
Darcy Parish - 12.5
Sam Walsh - 12.1
Andrew Brayshaw - 12.0
Touk Miller - 13.6
Oliver Wines - 13.3
Adam Treloar - 12.9

Jordan Dawson - 20.4
Jayden Short - 24.1
Brodie Smith - 24.5

Among the league's biggest ball winners he has below average meters per disposal

Of course if he got up to 375 meters gained from 32 disposals he'd be averaging around 11.7 meters per disposal which is typical for a big ball winner

 

[jenny61_99]

If it makes people uncomfortable, offended or upset it's fair enough to not do it.


I have very different political beliefs to a lot of people on here who might be offended by this, I'm sure, but one of the biggest rules for life should be "don't be a campaigner".



As a wise man once said, "be excellent to each other".

Now see, thanks to Big Footy swear filter, whenever I see the word "campaigner" I KNOW the word you were intending! Perhaps they need to put a swear filter in to change the acronym I use to something else, but then everyone would know when they saw the changed word, what I was really intending and we're back at square one. The RW are keen to call offended lefties "snowflakes"... wondering what their offended descriptor word should be?

But yes, I agree, people SHOULD be excellent to each other. It goes both ways though....

 

[martyparty]

Now see, thanks to Big Footy swear filter, whenever I see the word "campaigner" I KNOW the word you were intending! Perhaps they need to put a swear filter in to change the acronym I use to something else, but then everyone would know when they saw the changed word, what I was really intending and we're back at square one. The RW are keen to call offended lefties "snowflakes"... wondering what their offended descriptor word should be?

But yes, I agree, people SHOULD be excellent to each other. It goes both ways though....

Some people are really upset at cheating AFL umpire, Michael Pell..

 

[Big Dub]

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Some people are really upset at cheating AFL umpire, Michael Pell..

They spelt "Troy Pannell" wrong

 

[Crow-eater]

 

[crow2crow]

Given redman is putting his hand up to captain the dons I highly doubt he is leaving

Suggest we get doedee signed up by making him captain.

 

[Mutineer]

Attacking Adelaide duo hoping to play midfield minutes in 2023

“It’s definitely a goal I’ve been looking to go for this pre-season.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[rabidcrow]

Attacking Adelaide duo hoping to play midfield minutes in 2023

“It’s definitely a goal I’ve been looking to go for this pre-season.”

www.sen.com.au

Weren’t all the quotes from Rachele interview?

Or did Rankine do one as well


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[FR0GGY]

Given redman is putting his hand up to captain the dons I highly doubt he is leaving

Suggest we get doedee signed up by making him captain.

He’s also punching team mates isn’t he?

 

[crow2crow]

He’s also punching team mates isn’t he?

well he punched stringer - does it count?

 

[Gtowncrow]

He’s also punching team mates isn’t he?

Yeah, yeah... But who hasn't wanted to punch that douchebag Stringer.

 

[TryAnHit]

Attacking Adelaide duo hoping to play midfield minutes in 2023

“It’s definitely a goal I’ve been looking to go for this pre-season.”

www.sen.com.au

No need to turn every playing into a midfielder. Nothing wrong with being the best small fwd in the game.

 

[Mostyn]

No need to turn every playing into a midfielder. Nothing wrong with being the best small fwd in the game.

I don't think Rankine is ever going to be much more than a burst player in the mids.

But I really hope Rachelle plays a lot of time there - he absolutely has the physique for it.

 

[AFC979810]

Yes, and all those other players average mid to high 20s for disposals at their best. Matt Crouch gets the ball in the low to mid 30s at his best, so he needs to average more meters

Career average meters gained per disposal

Matt Crouch - 10.0
Caleb Serong - 13.7
Connor Rozee - 13.5
Lachie Neale - 11.2
Patrick Cripps - 9.5
Jack Steele - 11.6

Among the league's biggest ball winners he has below average meters per disposal

Of course if he got up to 375 meters gained from 32 disposals he'd be averaging around 11.7 meters per disposal which is typical for a big ball winner

Not to mention those other players do a lot more than just accumulate possessions. They all have a 2nd elite string to their bow. Unfortunately Matty doesn't.

2022 goals:

Cripps - 20 goals
Rozee - 18 goals

Matt Crouch Career goals - 28 (0 in 11 games in 2022).

2022 Tackles:

Steele 7.1 per game.
Crouch 4.0 per game

2022 Clearances:

Lachie Neale - 7.1 clearances, 3.58 clearances per game.
Crouch in 2022 -

 

[Mutineer]

2022 Clearances:

Lachie Neale - 7.1 clearances, 3.58 clearances per game.
Crouch in 2022 -

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92
Matt Crouch - 20.55
Jack Steele - 20.11
Patrick Cripps - 19.95

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele also spend significantly more T.O.G than Crouch.

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele are their designated 1st possession mid, Laird is ours currently.

I know it's the Adelaide board's favourite sport to knock our players but Matt is not the spud some on this board make him out to be...not even close.

 

[George Kramer]

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92
Matt Crouch - 20.55
Jack Steele - 20.11
Patrick Cripps - 19.95

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele also spend significantly more T.O.G than Crouch.

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele are their designated 1st possession mid, Laird is ours currently.

I know it's the Adelaide board's favourite sport to knock our players but Matt is not the spud some on this board make him out to be...not even close.

And yet Nicks cut him loose, did Nicks get it wrong?

And there you go again, you can’t criticise the board critiquing our players and then whinge when I call out your cheerleading and lack of critical thinking of anything to do with the Crows.

 

[Mutineer]

 

[WaynesWorld19]

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92
Matt Crouch - 20.55
Jack Steele - 20.11
Patrick Cripps - 19.95

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele also spend significantly more T.O.G than Crouch.

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele are their designated 1st possession mid, Laird is ours currently.

I know it's the Adelaide board's favourite sport to knock our players but Matt is not the spud some on this board make him out to be...not even close.

You need to organise those disposals by short / long disposals .....Defenders chipping the ball around, 1 mtre handballs , and players getting 100% DE numbers for kickouts ....all skew the Disposal Efficiency numbers

 

[AFC979810]

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92
Matt Crouch - 20.55
Jack Steele - 20.11
Patrick Cripps - 19.95

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele also spend significantly more T.O.G than Crouch.

All of Neale, Cripps and Steele are their designated 1st possession mid, Laird is ours currently.

I know it's the Adelaide board's favourite sport to knock our players but Matt is not the spud some on this board make him out to be...not even close.

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92 - From 30 disposals - 13.8 kicks, 16.1 handballs (7.6 clearances).4.4 inside 50's
Matt Crouch - 20.55 - From 27.4 disposals - 10.4 kicks per game, 16.4 handballs. 2.5 inside 50's.
Jack Steele - 20.11 - From 27.1 disposals - 12.6 kicks, 14.5 handballs (7.1 tackles) - 4.1 inside 50's.
Patrick Cripps - 19.95 - From 28.1 disposals - 10.1 kicks per game, 17.4 handballs (7.8 clearances per game). 4.5 inside 50's.

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

I would wager a lot of these metrics are skewed by the fact that Neale/Cripps are under a lot more pressure (clearances) and have multiple things they are elite at (same with Steele and his defensive work).

Crouch is an accumulator thats it at the moment. Sure he can rack up the ball, but he isn't damaging with it. He has 2 goals from his last 27 games.

But it is interesting you brought up Time on Ground. Why do you think he spends so little time on ground? I can answer - its because he can only play in one position. Its either midfield or bench.

Look he isn't a spud. He is just a very one dimensional player who has no other strings to his bow other than accumulating the pill. There is a reason he was dropped from the 14th best team three separate times in 2022.

 

[Scorpus]

Just remember that a 5m handball backwards and a 40m bullet pass to a forward are both effective disposals

 

[George Kramer]

So Mutineer has Nicks got it wrong by not selecting Crouch given the stats you provided?

Cmon mate, you can do it. Silly emojis for a grown man is just embarrassing yourself.

Have the gumption to give an opinion even if in a small way it can be seen as a criticism of the Crows.

 

[AFC979810]

So Mutineer has Nicks got it wrong by not selecting Crouch given the stats you provided?

Cmon mate, you can do it. Silly emojis for a grown man is just embarrassing yourself.

Have the gumption to give an opinion even if in a small way it can be seen as a criticism of the Crows.

How can you argue? Has more effective disposals per game than the Brownlow medallist.

 

[Crow till I die]

Anyone know how Crouch has been training this preseason in terms of his performance indicators - are they better than last years. He will be an interesting watch this year as he had last year after being out for the full year before. Does he have more power in his running that might allow him to be more attacking with his game?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Anyone know how Crouch has been training this preseason in terms of his performance indicators - are they better than last years. He will be an interesting watch this year as he had last year after being out for the full year before. Does he have more power in his running that might allow him to be more attacking with his game?

Yep heard he’s much more advanced on last year

He’s literally playing for his career so no surprise there

 

[UcantCme]

2022 Effective Disposals

Lachie Neale - 20.92 - From 30 disposals - 13.8 kicks, 16.1 handballs (7.6 clearances).4.4 inside 50's
Matt Crouch - 20.55 - From 27.4 disposals - 10.4 kicks per game, 16.4 handballs. 2.5 inside 50's.
Jack Steele - 20.11 - From 27.1 disposals - 12.6 kicks, 14.5 handballs (7.1 tackles) - 4.1 inside 50's.
Patrick Cripps - 19.95 - From 28.1 disposals - 10.1 kicks per game, 17.4 handballs (7.8 clearances per game). 4.5 inside 50's.

Disposal efficiency
Neale - 69.8%
Crouch - 75.1%
Steele - 74.2%
Cripps - 70.9%

I would wager a lot of these metrics are skewed by the fact that Neale/Cripps are under a lot more pressure (clearances) and have multiple things they are elite at (same with Steele and his defensive work).

Crouch is an accumulator thats it at the moment. Sure he can rack up the ball, but he isn't damaging with it. He has 2 goals from his last 27 games.

But it is interesting you brought up Time on Ground. Why do you think he spends so little time on ground? I can answer - its because he can only play in one position. Its either midfield or bench.

Look he isn't a spud. He is just a very one dimensional player who has no other strings to his bow other than accumulating the pill. There is a reason he was dropped from the 14th best team three separate times in 2022.

DE is misleading when the player looks backwards and sideways which slows up our ball movement


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