Preview Trial game - Crows V Port - 5pm Friday 23 Feb at Alberton Oval

[flashcrow]

Thank you ever so much for making the effort to compile this flashcrow. I think most of us here realized RT is going to be very good, but that highlight package from just one preseason trial game shows what an absolute beast he will likely turn into. I do not use the 'elite' word often, so as not to undervalue it, but he has 'elite' written all over him. Watch out Wayne Carey, someone has you covered, and hopefully without all of the off field muck that came with him!

The pleasure is all mine. There is certainly a lot to work with. I'm hoping he really develops this year and gains confidence from game to game. It would be good if they kept his centre bounce ruck to an absolute minimum.

 

[GreyCrow]

 

[El Doederino]

Surprised Rioli got away with a sling tackle. Must have been holding on and swinging fairly tight if Keane got his head knocked off but Rioli still manages to drive his head into the ground.

 

[Scorpus]

Also not surprised SPP was the only player to have any incident cited across the practice matches.

What a pea brain

 

[Coopers]

Surprised Rioli got away with a sling tackle. Must have been holding on and swinging fairly tight if Keane got his head knocked off but Rioli still manages to drive his head into the ground.

Rioli had another half rotation of tackle to decide to either sling him or just hold on - so we'll never know about that, because SPP comes in with the shoulder.

 

[Coopers]

I bet the tribunal is annoyed at this.

"What do you mean I have to do something for my paycheck, the season hasn't even started!?!?"

 

[GROTTO]

Should be at least 4.

Thug player in a thug suburb. It was to be expected.

 

[Geoffa32]

No, spp saw Keane was already tackled and kept running in anyway, then lead with the shoulder. spp had enough time to avoid contact

There is no doubt SPP lined him up for the bump.

But the bump was made more severe with Rioli's sling tackle.


If SPP didn't bump Keane, Rioli would be looking at 3 to 4 weeks.



And yet, no free kick for either action.

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[rabidcrow]

Saw Thilly on Rundle st on the weekend. Seriously still looks like a kid despite putting on a few KGs, so much room to grow wouldnt expect him to hit his peak for 3 years. Also they might not be Naughton style pack crashers but all our key forwards have sublime skills gonna be a treat watching this year.

Ironic you pick Naughton as the example to compare to. So RT averaged the exact same contested marks per game (1.8) as Naughton did ( and in 21 games v 23 so sample size basically the same)
Top 15 contested mark players for the season - RT the youngest by 3 years


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[rabidcrow]

He was number nine in the league for contested marks as a forward last year. If you purge the too small sample sizes probably sixth or so. And there's no one really even that close to his age in the group near him on the list.

Those numbers are boosted somewhat by the Ruck stints (though he's not alone in that), but this is a kid who's like three quarters of a decade off his prime years.

You can think a lot of things about him, and he's not a dominant pack marking forward just yet, but the kid's a contested marking beast.

2023 AFL League Forward Contested Marks Per Game Leaders

2023 AFL League Forward Contested Marks Per Game Leaders.

www.footywire.com

100%

Sitting just behind RT in the contested mark averages - Max King, Franklin, Daniher and Hawkins.


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[relapse]

I seem to recall most of the Port supporters on their board thinking that McAdam's 3 week suspension was fair even though there was no contact to the head and no concussion.

Zero sympathy for them.

 

[Southerntakeover]

100%

Sitting just behind RT in the contested mark averages - Max King, Franklin, Daniher and Hawkins.


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One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

 

[cleanhands]

One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate estimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

Or crunched in the ruck, that’s why I prefer him not there

 

[Southerntakeover]

Or crunched in the ruck, that’s why I prefer him not there

Hard agree, after his knee scare last year putting him back there is negligence imo

 

[Crow till I die]

One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate estimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

That is exactly the sort of player Thilthorpe will become for us and a horrid matchup for the opposition

 

[Scorpus]

One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

I also think some people don't understand what a contested mark is

It doesn't have to be a huge pack crashing Jonathan Brown mark over 10 defenders. Winning a 1-on-1 then taking the mark is all it takes

 

[StickerMan]

We're back in to the Pear supporter cycle, where pre-season hopes are at an all time high after being brainwashed by the Club and their shiny new toys.

For that reason, I would be happy with either result on Friday night.

Option 1: We win, well it would be good to watch the excuses flow freely down Port Rd.

Option 2: They win, the cycle continues on to the next phase or taking out the March Premiership, before they are severely let down once again.

Genuinely torn, but am leaning towards Option 1.

Like clockwork...must be getting close to March

 

[George Kramer]

^ Actions of a forum troll spammer : making the same comment you've made so many times before, 3 hours apart on the same page of the same thread. Suppose you've got nothing else to do in your life.

Crap post.

 

[George Kramer]

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Like clockwork...must be getting close to March

Media friggin love Port

 

[Thylacinus]

If Butters and Horne Francis remain fit for most of the season, I can see Port doing pretty well. Should make the 8, and could even go top 4. They do have some pretty reasonable depth elsewhere also. I wouldn't mind a utility like Houston on a flank or wing for us.

 

[Tadpole]

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Like clockwork...must be getting close to March

Someone’s made an early start on the kool aid.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I also think some people don't understand what a contested mark is

It doesn't have to be a huge pack crashing Jonathan Brown mark over 10 defenders. Winning a 1-on-1 then taking the mark is all it takes

And yet 2 a game is still league elite territory as a kpf

 

[CrowBloke]

What a lovely guy..glad he reached out after he sniped Keane

It's all about sincerity --- if he can fake that, he's got it made.

(He's trying, the slimy grub)

 

[Geoffa32]

One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.

Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.

Buddy Franklin type as well?



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[Southerntakeover]

Buddy Franklin type as well?



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Nah, I don't think he's quite that kind of unicorn