Agree not that quality, but similar style.Nah, I don't think he's quite that kind of unicorn
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Agree not that quality, but similar style.Nah, I don't think he's quite that kind of unicorn
Yep.....Not prime Buddy, he was a one of a kind freak speed wise for his size
Bryce Gibbs with the slow trot toward goal.....if he read the play better and put in effort he could have got to the goal line.
While it’s really just a matter of opinions, I think Port has a strong case for being a benchmark:I’d have Brisbane, GWS, Melbourne (even without Brayshaw) and Collingwood ahead of Ports mids.
And Carlton and Bulldogs have a right to stake a top 4 claim too.
Ports midfield is good but it’s not out of the box elite that it can cover for an average forward and Defence line.
They also rely far too much on Butters and Rozee. Every single play runs through them (and Houston at times). I’d expect clubs to be better prepared this year after Butters break out year especially.
Disagree. Keane had both his arms free and was spinning himself. Hard to tell what would have happened.There is no doubt SPP lined him up for the bump.
But the bump was made more severe with Rioli's sling tackle.
If SPP didn't bump Keane, Rioli would be looking at 3 to 4 weeks.
And yet, no free kick for either action.
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Both butters and Rozee still not at their peak last year remember. Look at butters on the weekend. He's a freak who almost just does whatever he likes.I’d have Brisbane, GWS, Melbourne (even without Brayshaw) and Collingwood ahead of Ports mids.
And Carlton and Bulldogs have a right to stake a top 4 claim too.
Ports midfield is good but it’s not out of the box elite that it can cover for an average forward and Defence line.
They also rely far too much on Butters and Rozee. Every single play runs through them (and Houston at times). I’d expect clubs to be better prepared this year after Butters break out year especially.
Both butters and Rozee still not at their peak last year remember. Look at butters on the weekend. He's a freak who almost just does whatever he likes.
I'm confident they will have the best midfield in the comp by the end of the year with Horne's improvement. That's a midfield we can only dream of having.
And yet our midfield will beat their midfield when we play them this year, just like we did last year? Yes?Both butters and Rozee still not at their peak last year remember. Look at butters on the weekend. He's a freak who almost just does whatever he likes.
I'm confident they will have the best midfield in the comp by the end of the year with Horne's improvement. That's a midfield we can only dream of having.
I don’t think we won those 2 games from necessarily the better midfield, but more likely from a stronger forward threat, and our defenders had matched well with their forwards.And yet our midfield will beat their midfield when we play them this year, just like we did last year? Yes?
Butters was awesome last season.Both butters and Rozee still not at their peak last year remember. Look at butters on the weekend. He's a freak who almost just does whatever he likes.
I'm confident they will have the best midfield in the comp by the end of the year with Horne's improvement. That's a midfield we can only dream of having.
Imo, we have more midfield depth.And yet our midfield will beat their midfield when we play them this year, just like we did last year? Yes?
Probably not much better, relatively speaking. But we gotta look at how long they both can sustain their peak, and at this stage, it could easily be the next 5 years or more.This is underrating their 2023. Butters was already playing like that last year.
Butters already was clearly BOG in many games, Rozee not far behind. Both were All-Australian.
How much better do you expect them to get?
Our whole better than their sum of all parts?And yet our midfield will beat their midfield when we play them this year, just like we did last year? Yes?
Apparently SPP has said he got it wrong (obvious)
4 weekends off.Oh, well in that case
Proceed with caution my friend. I was glowing of Port’s midfield a few years ago and this board assumed I had to be a Port fan.While it’s really just a matter of opinions, I think Port has a strong case for being a benchmark:
- Rozee and Butters, both chosen in the AA last year, and either could be potential Brownlow medallists in the next few years.
- Horne-Francis, still learning his craft after only 2 seasons, but from what I’ve seen of him, it’s not too ridiculous to think he may well win a Brownlow if he keeps this trajectory.
- Wines, a prior Brownlow medallist. Likely to be on the decline, but he’s still no slouch with the bullocking work
- Drew not attacking as the others but probably one of the best taggers in the game, I really rate his defensive work with the tackling.
The fact we can match it with Port’s mids in the recent trial match is a good sign of our improving midfield.
Agree with this. RT has such great speed and endurance which he should be using to his advantage. He is such a threat when leading up the wings and provides a great avenue when we are coming out of defence. I don't want him confined only to the forward 50. Let him roam up the ground and run his defender into the ground.One of the problems with understanding key forward play is that most people significantly overestimate how many contested marks a good key forward takes.
Having said that, I don't want us trying to turn Thithorpe into the Kurt Tippett 'sit under the ball and try to outmark it when we bomb in' guy. He should be more Nick Reiwoldt- put someone on him big enough to stop him and they can't keep up, put someone who can keep up and he'll monster them. He's too good to abuse by just having him constantly crashed by defenders.
No one would ever accuse John of being a port fan.Proceed with caution my friend. I was glowing of Port’s midfield a few years ago and this board assumed I had to be a Port fan.
Not sure why they’d accuse me either.No one would ever accuse John of being a port fan.
That’s the nature of online, haters will say and accuse you of whatever. Sometimes they use dislikes and laughing emojis too.Not sure why they’d accuse me either.