He has a great opportunity to get himself into a position as senior coach candidate but the evidence from his stint with us is thin getting thinner.
At WC with a stacked forward line he did ok.
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He has a great opportunity to get himself into a position as senior coach candidate but the evidence from his stint with us is thin getting thinner.
At WC with a stacked forward line he did ok.
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I guess what this is saying is within the possible explanations I gave for what we are doing - that the coaches don't believe our forwards are competent at doing forward things like lead, dummy lead, block, create space, work as a unit etc. So they just try and come up with different ways for us to kick goals that don't involve traditional forward craft.
Evidence would suggest you are right when they all stand there perfectly still waving and then flying for the same directionless long kick. It's novel, I'll give them that.
The buck always stops with an established senior coach. For Lyon as with all coaches that includes the lists development, s&c, any strategy failings. He notoriously undervalues assistants and insists they follow his plan. Doesn't mean assistants can't be criticized for their roles.
The biggest factor for Lyon is that he has demonstrated capacity to get teams deep into finals.
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Hale worked under JL for 2 years and this board was celebrating when he left, Hale was a good coach, got the best out of taberner
He is a chance to be a senior coach one day
I have been clearly reluctant with JL, so it's a bit weird seeing everyone else jumping off, I don't think much has changed after 2 games this year, don't think everyone should be dropping off him yet.
The thing I'll say is, we need to focus on player retention now, we got to finals a year late (imo) and that's likely due to losing 1 or 2 players each year, this is such a young team now, we can't keep constantly losing 1 or 2 players a year as it's just setting us back.
To the people saying to trade Darcy, you're crazy, that sets us back 3 or 4 years, he is about to enter his prime and we already need to blood our 4th/5th mids.
We have the workings of a good team, unfortunately losing players each year means we have to keep rejigging and it's setting us back
Fwiw, if we make finals from here then JL has earnt it and will make it imo, we have the hardest draw in the AFL, I was expecting a down year, we've dropped two winnables which means we need to steal a couple of the hard games, it all gets very hard from here
Our best is competitive, I know we haven't seen our best this year but that doesn't mean we won't see it.
To steal a Rossism, would be nice if we could head down to the confidence store sometime this week though
The thing I'll say is, we need to focus on player retention now, we got to finals a year late (imo) and that's likely due to losing 1 or 2 players each year, this is such a young team now, we can't keep constantly losing 1 or 2 players a year as it's just setting us back.
To the people saying to trade Darcy, you're crazy, that sets us back 3 or 4 years, he is about to enter his prime and we already need to blood our 4th/5th mids.
We have the workings of a good team, unfortunately losing players each year means we have to keep rejigging and it's setting us back
Fwiw, if we make finals from here then JL has earnt it and will make it imo, we have the hardest draw in the AFL, I was expecting a down year, we've dropped two winnables which means we need to steal a couple of the hard games, it all gets very hard from here
Our best is competitive, I know we haven't seen our best this year but that doesn't mean we won't see it.
To steal a Rossism, would be nice if we could head down to the confidence store sometime this week though
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That's the problem. We don't have a stacked forward line..... Actually it's ok in the small forwards department.
Yes Walters is getting old... But Lachie Schulz kicking 30 goals and Frederick kicking 28 goals says there's hope.
When it comes to the talls...Taberner is out of form, Amiss is only a 2nd year player and Traecy needs to be consistent.
Jackson has not been great
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This article makes a fairly persuasive argument that the forward line is horrible
www.abc.net.au
Can the Eagles capitalise from Fremantle's missing connection?
As we get set for the Western Derby, Fremantle is under pressure to bounce back after a poor start to the season against their biggest rivals. Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson look at the Dockers and their most glaring weakness — scoring.
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That is a great articleThis article make a fairly persuasive argument that the forward line is horrible
Can the Eagles capitalise from Fremantle's missing connection?
As we get set for the Western Derby, Fremantle is under pressure to bounce back after a poor start to the season against their biggest rivals. Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson look at the Dockers and their most glaring weakness — scoring.
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This article makes a fairly persuasive argument that the forward line is horrible
Can the Eagles capitalise from Fremantle's missing connection?
As we get set for the Western Derby, Fremantle is under pressure to bounce back after a poor start to the season against their biggest rivals. Cody Atkinson and Sean Lawson look at the Dockers and their most glaring weakness — scoring.
God damn though, if they could somehow just engineer even 10% more reward for effort...
It's damning we get it inside 50 so much for **** all return.
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Still isn't going to be enough evidence to convince the mouth breathers who think it's all the midfield's fault
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Brayshaw turning his back on the play isn't a good look, but I agree. Forwardline is stagnant, zero leadership. Unsurprising we kicked so many goals when Walters came on.
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Agreed, but I meant the stats in the article as well as the vision. I was watching that vision on loop all night as I spent as much of the game as I could watching the forwards when they were ahead of the ball and we had possession, it was a horror movie
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The most senior forward down there was Taberner but we're not allowed to criticise him because he once made AA squad, which makes him unimpeachable.
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The thing I like most about that video is how Jackson flies to take the mark and Taberner is there for some reason. What for? Why? Maybe to take one of his much vaunted 'contested marks'? Oh no wait, he doesn't even get near it.
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Hawks flags in 2008 and 2013-5 was Freo being dumb and offering picks 1, 20 and 36 for Luke McPharlin and Trent Croad.
Not to mention we kept butchering our 1st round picks from 2007-14 and not drafting a decent tall forward in 2017-14 to help Matt Pavlich.
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Tabs is just a dumb footy player, has basically zero footy IQ. Does this all the time.
That's our forward line for you.
Talls who can't lead upto 40-50M, so drop it on their head outside the square and let 2-3 of them jump up for it.
Smalls who have 0 clue to crumb those contests and are 10M away - can only work around stoppages.
Then opposition clears the ball out almost instantly and has a 50/50 chance of getting a goal.
It fees like unless we slowly creep the ball forward or hit a lead from a center clearance (the only ones we can hit) then goals in that situation are total luck because the lack of system.
Talls who can't lead upto 40-50M, so drop it on their head outside the square and let 2-3 of them jump up for it.
Smalls who have 0 clue to crumb those contests and are 10M away - can only work around stoppages.
Then opposition clears the ball out almost instantly and has a 50/50 chance of getting a goal.
It fees like unless we slowly creep the ball forward or hit a lead from a center clearance (the only ones we can hit) then goals in that situation are total luck because the lack of system.
Not true, you're embellishing things and being quite disingenuous. I think almost everyone has criticized him. It's just that not everyone agrees with your assertion that he's the worst key forward Freo has ever had and that Josh Treacy should replace him. No need for the dramatics.
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I'd say he went up to make it a 2 on 2 as opposed to a 2 on 1.
Leading up to that, you can see both Jackson and Tabs moving around looking for a block, but then in the end neither of them blocked for the other.
The other issue is that Amiss hasnt even moved from the goal square. I guess he was hoping a ball to spill over the back, but even then he hasnt moved to a good position at the back of the pack anyway.
Freddy was stagnant and wandered across to the play, but had space in front of him to run toward the ball carrier well before the ball was kicked to the pack.
Darcy ran down but went into a pocket. Not sure why he didnt run into the open space in front of goal 30 odd metres out. When he entered the 50, he had a bit of separation but chose to run to the pocket rather than straightening up into the open space in front of goal.
In that play, the only person who really looked at making some space was Hughes, who left his man and ran boundary side in case of a little chip kick. If that kick had gone there, you would have had Hughes 55 from goal but it would given more time for the forwards to organise themselves.
The whole game, we would go inside 50 and I would point to the gap that one of the forwards could lead into for an easy hit up. Not once did one of them lead into the gap (Amiss tried a few times)
**** Tabs off, he used to be serviceable but he is shit now and has always had low footy IQ
I think you have to have an instinctive player to play that style of footy in the
modern game.
It’s why Tabs, Hughes, even Ryan are getting caught out.
Some can change, while others have limitations due to being indecisive .
But let’s face it if you can’t even handball properly what’s the point?
Once you have taken a mark, the rules allow quick play, someone needs to
be running past to turn defence into attack.
Freo should know better than most, it’s why our foot soldiers struggled with the
Hawks gameplan, for a team with pace, skill we play a restrictive style.
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It's sad seeing tabs on the decline.
I wished he was 22-25 years old again and fully fit. We all waited patiently for him to play 20-22 games in a season and kick 40 goals.
I wished Michael Apeness or Scott Jones made it as a solid KPF ruckman that kicked 30-40 goals a season too.
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