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[PeacefulWarrior]

And if we really want an athletic, extra mid ruck then we should go to the states and find some massive 120kg, black, college basketballer, dude who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and who just fell short of pro ball. Must be 1000’s of them looking for a sea-change.

It’s called a Port change brah

 

[Del165198]

Australia's handful of Aboriginal cricketers need a lesson in history. Scott Boland has supported Ashleigh Gardner's view in opposing the playing of cricket on Australia Day. Gardner has come out saying, 'I just do not understand why this one day of the year- which is a day of mourning, which doesn't have a very good history of what happened on that day , that there needs to be cricket.'

The fact is if what happened on that day had not happened we would probably not have had cricket to play. January 26th 1788 marks the beginning of Britsh colonisation in Australia and one of the greatest legacies of that colonisation is the very English game of cricket. Australia was always going to be colonised and if it had been by the French or the Dutch Ashleigh Gardner would probably not have any cricket play. Like most of the Aboriginal activists Gardner rails against colonialism yet she is quite happy to pick the bits she likes out of the colonial legacy. Gardner uses an Anglicised name, lives in a modern society born out of colonialsim with all it's creature comforts yet she s**t cans my English and European heritage at every opportunity. The fact is Australia was always going to be colonised and without colonalisation most of us, including Gardner and Boland, would not be here.

I respect Ash Gardner and Scott Boland's right to express their views but if they do not like playing on Australia Day, as is their right in a free society, let them make a stand and don't play and let the rest of us get on with it.

what the ****

 

[Del165198]

oh no if the english hadn't decided to commit genocide on a race that existed for 60,000 years they wouldn't get to the privelige of playing cricket!

i wonder how they would have managed without the glorious english!

let me guess, probably existed as they did for the past several millenia without causing mass extinctions.


they sure should be thankful for the english for cololising and bringing civilisation so they could experience all modern disease, a complete destruction of the food web that existed for thousands of years and everyhign else so they got the privelige to play cricket

**** off you ****ing dickhead

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

just so you know, this is pretty racist

"Yeah those are good thighs, but you're gonna have a problem with work ethic" - Handrewandrew, international scout, probably

 

[GremioPower]

just so you know, this is pretty racist

How?!

 

[EskimoPAFC]

And if we really want an athletic, extra mid ruck then we should go to the states and find some massive 120kg, black, college basketballer, dude who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and who just fell short of pro ball. Must be 1000’s of them looking for a sea-change.

"Sir we've found a super athletic, 120kg, ex-college basketballer who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and is just short of pro ball!"

"Is he black?"

"No sir but..."

"Keep looking then!"

 

[raptalia]

what the *

You have no idea. What I am saying is that we have people who profit from the colonial past criticising the colonial past. To me that is pretty hypocritical. What do you expect the descendents of European immigrants to do? Get on a boat, sail away and leave those with Aboriginal blood in their veins to carry on from where their forebears left of in January 1788? So we do not play cricket on Australia day what does that prove and how does that help an Aboriginal population many of who are being terrorised by their own people? Gardner and Boland would probably achieve more if they went to the remote communities and Alice Springs and provided role models for Those people who are terrorising the population.

Australia Day marks the start of the society in which you live and take for granted. That fact that you can only reply with obscenities and personal abuse and not contribute to the debate in a meaningful way shows the level of your intelligence.

Don't bother to reply to this post as I will not be able to read it. You are entitled to an opinion and I will debate any issue with anyone but when the exchange descends to personal abuse I reserve the right to walk away.

In the meantime some reading for you-

'Disgraceful' Australia Day debate needs to stop: Warren Mundine

Indigenous leader Warren Mundine has pleaded for an end to the 'disgraceful' debate over Australia Day, echoing the prime minister's worry that it is dividing the country.

www.sbs.com.au

 

[1954]

How?!

I am a tad confused that could be construed as a racist comment too, and as a comparison I suspect if a Hollywood director said to their casting people to get them the best looking Swedish blond actress they could find no-one would turn a hair, except maybe some brunettes or redheads who missed out on the role.

 

[backtozero]

Yeah, it's pretty racist to assume that a super athletic basketballer might be black. It would be totally unprecedented.

 

[JimmyBC]

Yeah, it's pretty racist to assume that a super athletic basketballer might be black. It would be totally unprecedented.

Don't mention 100 metre sprinters it'll start a war.

 

[Alyx]

 

[Tibbs]

And if we really want an athletic, extra mid ruck then we should go to the states and find some massive 120kg, black, college basketballer, dude who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and who just fell short of pro ball. Must be 1000’s of them looking for a sea-change.

"Sir we've found a super athletic, 120kg, ex-college basketballer who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and is just short of pro ball!"

"Is he black?"

"No sir but..."

"Keep looking then!"

"But why sir?"

"Team balance, young man! Team balance! We already have a WHITE super athletic, 120kg, ex-college basketballer who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and is just short of pro ball, on the left wing!"

 

[Ford Fairlane]

"History is written by the survivors"

I think you are referring to BlackFellows Beach (aka Blacks by surfers) near Elliston.

https://www.surfer.com/surfing-magazine-archive/the-worlds-most-haunted-surf-spot

 

[Doctor Feel]

Describing a race as athletically gifted is complimentary I thought? Objectively not wrong either. It's not as if he called them anything derogatory, quite the opposite.

I make fun of handyandy at the best of times, but there needs to be some balance in this race to the bottom where everything is racist to the point you can't even discuss how black basketballers are fantastic at the sport and dominate all star stuff. Anyway that's my piece on the subject, won't say anything more lol.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Yeah, it's pretty racist to assume that a super athletic basketballer might be black. It would be totally unprecedented.

Its more that its being used in the selection criteria. I don't think its racist, just hilarious. If you want a super athletic tall American then just say that - why would you ever go searching for a football player based on skin colour?

On that note I wonder if there is anybody in the AFL with a basketball background? Maybe someone at Collingwood?

 

[Lagooner]

Describing a race as athletically gifted is complimentary I thought? Objectively not wrong either. It's not as if he called them anything derogatory, quite the opposite.

I make fun of handyandy at the best of times, but there needs to be some balance in this race to the bottom where everything is racist to the point you can't even discuss how black basketballers are fantastic at the sport and dominate all star stuff. Anyway that's my piece on the subject, won't say anything more lol.

 

[Del165198]

From all the stuff handy has said it's not so bad, but it's about stereotyping a group of people based on their race, even if the trait is positive. It's like saying we should hire an Asian to look after our finances because they're good at maths.

Just a weird thing to say.

 

[backtozero]

Its more that its being used in the selection criteria. I don't think its racist, just hilarious. If you want a super athletic tall American then just say that - why would you ever go searching for a football player based on skin colour?

On that note I wonder if there is anybody in the AFL with a basketball background? Maybe someone at Collingwood?

I read it more as a descriptor rather than selection criteria. Probably goes without saying if someone says they want an American 210cm super athlete but anyway.

 

[Handyandy]

Race and ethnicity in the NBA - Wikipedia

 

[Tibbs]

Its a good discussion. Funny thing is as soon as I read the original post I did a double-take at the "black" adjective. I wasnt offended, and I dont think it is being racist, but in the woke, PC, world we live in, a flag immediately come up. Just imagine the brouhaha if the converse request was made...

"Go find us a super athletic, 120kg, white ex-college basketballer who can do the 100m in 10 seconds and is just short of pro ball"

 

[Del165198]

I read it more as a descriptor rather than selection criteria. Probably goes without saying if someone says they want an American 210cm super athlete but anyway.

 

[bomberclifford]

we should hire an Asian to look after our finances because they're good at maths.

Send this through to Davo Cuck please.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Agree completely that the majority of college and the vast majority of NBA players are black and I don't think you were being disparaging at all. I think the studies show that black people aren't more inherently athletic and it tends to be societal/environmental pressures that lead then to push to the elite level of the NBA and NFL, because of the systemic racism in society, they're far less likely to be given opportunities in other fields that will let them be as successful.

 

[backtozero]

Mason Cox is tall as **** but I wouldn't call him a super athlete.

 

[Festerz]

Both the AFL and ARU have today issued statements in support of the Indigenous Voice.

The ARU one is utterly brilliant imho because it is not jingoistic but full of detail and speaks to the heart of the rhetorical question that always arises when sporting codes and clubs like ours dare to talk about Indigenous issues:

'what business does a sporting body have making political statements?'