Analysis 2023 Draft Watch

[Red_man2008]

Geelongs regular ITK poster just posted that Sanders will be off the draft table - Re North requesting priority access to him given he's been a partof their academy for years and years.

Going to make things fairly interesting for teams looking for a Mid if true.

I thought academy players can’t be picked up in the first and second round.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

I thought academy players can’t be picked up in the first and second round.
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I don't have the article on me as I can't access them but believe its in here

Kangaroos may get creative to snare top prospect; Casboult keen to play on

North Melbourne continue to explore options to gain access to young Tasmanian midfielder Ryley Sanders, in a move that could wipe one of this year’s best prospects from the pool. Plus: the Suns in limbo after coach’s exit, and the Allies team set to shape the draft.

amp.smh.com.au

If its not this one its somewhere around atm that North has put in a request to be given free access to Sanders. North fans been waffling on about it all week.

Would probably be more palatable than a top 3 pick as a PP, Sanders more likely around pick 8-10 range.

 

[Red_man2008]

I don't have the article on me as I can't access them but believe its in here

Kangaroos may get creative to snare top prospect; Casboult keen to play on

North Melbourne continue to explore options to gain access to young Tasmanian midfielder Ryley Sanders, in a move that could wipe one of this year’s best prospects from the pool. Plus: the Suns in limbo after coach’s exit, and the Allies team set to shape the draft.

amp.smh.com.au

If its not this one its somewhere around atm that North has put in a request to be given free access to Sanders. North fans been waffling on about it all week.

Would probably be more palatable than a top 3 pick as a PP, Sanders more likely around pick 8-10 range.

After the afl gifted JUH to western bulldogs they changed the rule. I don’t reckon they’ll be given the privilege.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

After the afl gifted JUH to western bulldogs they changed the rule. I don’t reckon they’ll be given the privilege.

North is pretty horrendous atm and would allow them to pick up Sanders and Curtin without causing too much controversy

 

[Stamos]

I don't have the article on me as I can't access them but believe its in here

Kangaroos may get creative to snare top prospect; Casboult keen to play on

North Melbourne continue to explore options to gain access to young Tasmanian midfielder Ryley Sanders, in a move that could wipe one of this year’s best prospects from the pool. Plus: the Suns in limbo after coach’s exit, and the Allies team set to shape the draft.

amp.smh.com.au

https://archive.md/kBJgP

North have applied for the 18-year-old to be included in their NGA crop, and Sanders received his certificate of Aboriginality about six weeks ago after a lengthy process. The AFL is yet to give approval to the Roos’ NGA request, and did not respond to The Age’s inquiries.

However, a major complication is that draft rules state clubs are unable to match a bid on an NGA prospect if a player is selected within the first 40 picks, where Sanders is certain to be taken. One motivation for North to push on with Sanders’ NGA application is if they are given the green light, they could then lobby the league to gain pre-draft access to the 186-centimetre midfielder instead of asking for a priority pick. The Suns were previously able to select academy prospects without having to match an opposition bid, among a suite of list concessions the league afforded them.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

He’d be NGA, means nothing when he’ll be a top 10 pick.


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[Stamos]

He’d be NGA, means nothing when he’ll be a top 10 pick.

See above

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

https://archive.md/kBJgP

Thanks Stam, from looking around the other boards seems like a few people saying Sanders is going to be given to them. I think its a decent way of helping them out without being too outlandish

 

[Stamos]

Thanks Stam, from looking around the other boards seems like a few people saying Sanders is going to be given to them. I think its a decent way of helping them out without being too outlandish

Seems pretty outlandish

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Seems pretty outlandish

I'd prefer them to get Sanders than Pick 2 as a PP

 

[Stamos]

I'd prefer them to get Sanders than Pick 2 as a PP

Either would be outlandish.

 

[bradfisher14]

A bored exercise for you all...

Imagining we had 3 picks inside 30 at roughly 5,12,25

If you had to pick 1 player from each of these three groups to make up a trio of picks for us who would you choose? Feel free to add any others you're interested in that I haven't listed. Just have who I think will be around that mark.

<<< Pick 5 >>>
Nate Caddy (Charlie Curnow)
Daniel Curtin (Steven May)
Colby Mckercher (Zach Merrett but faster)
Nick Watson (Eddie Betts/Tom Papley)
Ryley Sanders (JHF with less explosiveness)
Zane Duursma (Degoey/Fritsch)


<<< Pick 12 >>>
Connor O'Sullivan (Weitering)
Darcy Wilson (Jack Crisp/Josh Daicos)
Mitchell Edwards (Tim English)
Jack Delean (Cody Weightman)
Koltyn Tholstrup (Cam Zurhaar)
Nathan Philactides (Ed Richards)


<<< Pick 25 >>>
AshtonMoir (Isaac Heeney/Marshmallow)
Will Patton (Tom Stewart)
Jack Callinan (Brad Close)
Luamon Lual (Isaac Quaynor)
Harry Demattia (Rory Laird)
Ollie Murphy (Sam Taylor)

I've tried to give as close to a player comparison as I can. Obviously, some aren't like for likes but they are the closest I could think of.

Love this.

Give me Watson, Wilson, and Murphy please.

 

[Bletch]

Thanks Stam, from looking around the other boards seems like a few people saying Sanders is going to be given to them. I think its a decent way of helping them out without being too outlandish

Already there are four players in the first round that potentially get picked up by clubs via academy or father/son (Walter, Read, Rogers, Croft). Sanders would make a fifth. Add to that the potential for GWS and Norf to receive compensation picks for Himmelberg & McKay if they take free agency, as is being talked about. Not sure either ends up in top 5% of salaries, qualifying for a 1st round pick, but they may do - or the AFL may give it to them anyway.

If so, we might see a first round something like this (using Bangers latest draft ranking (I've paid no attention to needs), and current ladder positions):

1 WCE Reid
2 GCS Walter (bid by NM)
3 NM McKercher
4 GCS Read (bid by NM)
5 NM Watson (compensation pick for McKay)
6 HAW O'Sullivan
7 MEL Curtin (pick was traded by Freo)
8 ??? Duursma (pick to be traded by GCS)
9 NM Sanders (bid by GWS)
10 GWS Caddy (pick was traded by Rich)
11 GCS Rogers (bid by CAR)
12 CAR Wilson
13 GWS Edwards
14 WBU Croft (bid by GWS)
15 GWS Freijah
16 ADE Murphy
17 GEE Delean
18 ??? Johnston (pick to be traded by WBU)
19 STK Hastie
20 ESS Roberts
21 MEL
22 WBU (pick prob gets traded, was traded by BRI)
23 NM (pick prob gets traded, was traded by PA)
24 COLL

I suspect what will happen is that the AFL fudges the McKay compensation (if it happens), so that they end up with one or other of the extra 1st round pick, or access to Sanders. To get both would be highly unfair. Especially considering we got SFA for the years we spent on the bottom.

Also, this doesn't take into account any compensation WCE might request - and you'd think they'd mount a better case than Norf.

Makes it a highly compromised draft. Hawthorn would be extremely pissed, as would GWS, who might otherwise be expecting 3 picks in the first 7 or 8.

Mind you, it'd be funny to see Norf get this, and for McKercher and Sanders to take off when the Devils join the comp.

 

[Red_man2008]

Either would be outlandish.

I don’t think WC would be happy. Nor should we as the afl gave us **** all for a much more sustained period at the bottom.

 

[teagueyubeauty]

See above

Yep, so it would be as a priority pick not as NGA as NGA has set specific rules.
Either way, it’s a farce but not unexpected at all

Now when is the AFL going to remove the farce that is Gold Coasts zone of the NT….that was only meant to be interim, that’s becoming permanent


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[Stamos]

Yep, so it would be as a priority pick not as NGA as NGA has set specific rules.
Either way, it’s a farce but not unexpected at all

Technically it would be pre-listing and NGA player, not a Priority Pick, but yes, a farce.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Can we find a way to make finals and get Mckercher and Watson plz, this win streak is ruining my plans!

 

[ferrisb]

Can we find a way to make finals and get Mckercher and Watson plz, this win streak is ruining my plans!

???

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Geelongs ITK saying priority access to Sanders and Callinan.......

 

[Aphrodite]

Who is Harley Reid? Potential No.1 draft pick dominates AFL Under 18s National Championships | Sporting News Australia

Projected as the No.1 pick in the 2023 AFL Draft, the Bendigo Pioneers product has made a name for himself as a powerful marking midfielder with an astonishing highlights package.

www.sportingnews.com

 

[BigFrizz36]

That Jed Walter has a few Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

characteristics. Sadly he's likely off to gold coast as part of their academy.

They will have a gun list next season with their 3 new academy additions. There might be options to get someone like Hollands home because they will be looking for points. Maybe the pick we get for Zac Fisher

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Zac Fisher

Age

26

Ht

175cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.0

5star

MG

384.0

5star

D

17.0

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

0.0

1star

MG

384.0

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.2

2star

T

3.0

5star

to the sunnies for Hollands? (Quite a few assumptions there)

 

[bradfisher14]

Geelongs ITK saying priority access to Sanders and Callinan.......

To North?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

To North?

Yeah apparently. Seems to think they'll be getting pre listing access to both

 

[bradfisher14]

Yeah apparently. Seems to think they'll be getting pre listing access to both

Hopefully this means the AFL won't use their magic powers to give North first round compo for McKay.

 

[Christou2Kouta]

Not a particularly flashy player but just does everything well. I’d be happy if we found a spot for him.




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