Training Training reports 2024

[giantroo]

 

[Snowy off the Tram]

8. Bailey Scott

Consecutive podium finishes in Syd show he must be rated highly by the coaches. It is easy to see why as he Gets plenty of it, provides run and carry and breaks line. Kicking needs a bit of work but he is still young so has plenty of time to rectify this. With the recruitment of Dyl, Fish and Colby there is an acknowledgment that we need more run to help him. Was thrown down back last year so he is not just a winger. Easily best 22.

This idea that you can somehow improve your kicking as you get older is a nonsense. If you’ve got a flawed technique at 18 it ain’t going to be any better at 25 - those 18 (or 12) years of muscle memory will see to that. So the notion that Scott, McDonald, Jy, Tucker et al can magically improve their disposal under intensive coaching is wishful thinking. It’s such an underrated skill (well, maybe not to Clarko) yet for years and years our recruiters kept drafting blokes into the club who could not kick properly ….

 

[ChopChopDigDig]

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[Mav]

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Jesus H Christ, no one is tackling those hips.

 

[BlueandWhiteinmyBlood]

Mick Barlow up in the last half an hour of Julian De Stoops (Dwayne’s slot) show on SEN today.

 

[shinboner magic]

I suspect the logistics of finding 4 - 6 suitable AFL standard ovals with the requisite facilities such as change rooms, rehab, media rooms etc. and then hiring each of those for only 1 or 2 weeks each is probably why.

That just doesn’t make sense for my needs of living in the sth-east

 

[shinboner magic]

This idea that you can somehow improve your kicking as you get older is a nonsense. If you’ve got a flawed technique at 18 it ain’t going to be any better at 25 - those 18 (or 12) years of muscle memory will see to that. So the notion that Scott, McDonald, Jy, Tucker et al can magically improve their disposal under intensive coaching is wishful thinking. It’s such an underrated skill (well, maybe not to Clarko) yet for years and years our recruiters kept drafting blokes into the club who could not kick properly ….

Probably not improve but to play within your limitations.
Like Steve Waugh did by putting away his hook shot

 

[Makeshift Park]

Do we reckon the coaches will attempt to stagger the debuts?

McKercher sounds like a round 1 lock.

Pink likely too.

Then George and Duursma likely to get calls up not too long afterwards.

To say nothing of Hardeman.

If George and Duursma live up to their promise, I just can't see them kicking bags in the twos for ages without getting a shot in the seniors?

But on the flipside, I wouldn't have thought we'd be too keen on exposing more than 2 zero-gamers to the top level all at once?

 

[KangaRooster]

B.George out of his arm brace is exactly the kind of good news I needed this morning!!

Hope he smashes the track and drills and gets in for round 1

 

[Mav]

This idea that you can somehow improve your kicking as you get older is a nonsense. If you’ve got a flawed technique at 18 it ain’t going to be any better at 25 - those 18 (or 12) years of muscle memory will see to that. So the notion that Scott, McDonald, Jy, Tucker et al can magically improve their disposal under intensive coaching is wishful thinking. It’s such an underrated skill (well, maybe not to Clarko) yet for years and years our recruiters kept drafting blokes into the club who could not kick properly ….

Completely disagree with this and you just have to look at how Aussies can go to the states and learn a completely new technique for punting. If you can't improve your kicking as you get older, why would you bother training?

 

[Mav]

Do we reckon the coaches will attempt to stagger the debuts?

McKercher sounds like a round 1 lock.

Pink likely too.

Then George and Duursma likely to get calls up not too long afterwards.

To say nothing of Hardeman.

If George and Duursma live up to their promise, I just can't see them kicking bags in the twos for ages without getting a shot in the seniors?

But on the flipside, I wouldn't have thought we'd be too keen on exposing more than 2 zero-gamers to the top level all at once?

I reckon the preseason games will determine who's in. Competition for spots hasn't been this hot for decades.

 

[pupstar]

This idea that you can somehow improve your kicking as you get older is a nonsense. If you’ve got a flawed technique at 18 it ain’t going to be any better at 25 - those 18 (or 12) years of muscle memory will see to that. So the notion that Scott, McDonald, Jy, Tucker et al can magically improve their disposal under intensive coaching is wishful thinking. It’s such an underrated skill (well, maybe not to Clarko) yet for years and years our recruiters kept drafting blokes into the club who could not kick properly ….

Does that include goal kicking in your opinion.

 

[shinboner magic]

Do we reckon the coaches will attempt to stagger the debuts?

McKercher sounds like a round 1 lock.

Pink likely too.

Then George and Duursma likely to get calls up not too long afterwards.

To say nothing of Hardeman.

If George and Duursma live up to their promise, I just can't see them kicking bags in the twos for ages without getting a shot in the seniors?

But on the flipside, I wouldn't have thought we'd be too keen on exposing more than 2 zero-gamers to the top level all at once?

George would have to absolute brain them to get a gig in the first 6 weeks - coming off a knee injury and then an elbow will take a bit of time to get up to speed.
Then adding to that he hasn’t played against men yet , so that’s more adjustment.

Reckon hardeman might surprise and get a look in early doors

 

[Makeshift Park]

George would have to absolute brain them to get a gig in the first 6 weeks - coming off a knee injury and then an elbow will take a bit of time to get up to speed.
Then adding to that he hasn’t played against men yet , so that’s more adjustment.

Reckon hardeman might surprise and get a look in early doors

Brayden looks like he weighs close to 90kg now though!

Our VFL medium forwards are going to be a cut above.

 

[The Nostradamus]

George would have to absolute brain them to get a gig in the first 6 weeks - coming off a knee injury and then an elbow will take a bit of time to get up to speed.
Then adding to that he hasn’t played against men yet , so that’s more adjustment.

Reckon hardeman might surprise and get a look in early doors

that and the fact that he’s being trialled at hbf so will need time in the vfl to get up to speed in the new role

 

[RossHenshaw]

Completely disagree with this and you just have to look at how Aussies can go to the states and learn a completely new technique for punting. If you can't improve your kicking as you get older, why would you bother training?

obviously a comment / opinion of someone who has not played a single game of footy in their life.

 

[zoomba23]

This idea that you can somehow improve your kicking as you get older is a nonsense. If you’ve got a flawed technique at 18 it ain’t going to be any better at 25 - those 18 (or 12) years of muscle memory will see to that. So the notion that Scott, McDonald, Jy, Tucker et al can magically improve their disposal under intensive coaching is wishful thinking. It’s such an underrated skill (well, maybe not to Clarko) yet for years and years our recruiters kept drafting blokes into the club who could not kick properly ….

I've had a theory for a while and it might be horseshit. But... What if you studiously practiced on your non preferred? Like, dedicated hours and hours to it to bring it up to standard? I feel like the learning process, doing it as an adult with essentially **** all existing neural pathways in place, would remove the bad habits created as a kid kicking with the preferred. It might not be as penetrating but over <45m, no reason why it couldn't be effective.

It's the same sort of logic regarding why Mason Cox is an accurate kick for goal even at that height. Didn't learn as kid, didn't pick up any quirks, and as a result had the privilege of learning a mechanically sound and straightforward action on his preferred.

I don't know. Maybe I need to take a sedative and pick up a hobby

 

[Recently retired]

Kicking is one of the things that can improve the most from late teens to mid-20s. That's because factors like fatigue, composure, decision making and leg strength all have a big impact on your kicking in game situations, and all those areas can be improved substantially across that time frame.

 

[king of the road]

Kicking is one of the things that can improve the most from late teens to mid-20s. That's because factors like fatigue, composure, decision making and leg strength all have a big impact on your kicking in game situations, and all those areas can be improved substantially across that time frame.

This is why I think Comben can improve and his goal kicking woes are exaggerated.

He kicks better at the start of quarters and games. Drops off significantly later in the game and quarters. But fresh - he looks a good kick. Fatigue and composure gets him.

 

[The Nostradamus]

FYI training goes all the way to next Weds before 3 weeks off

 

[Rod Stroker]

Do we reckon the coaches will attempt to stagger the debuts?

McKercher sounds like a round 1 lock.

Pink likely too.

Then George and Duursma likely to get calls up not too long afterwards.

To say nothing of Hardeman.

If George and Duursma live up to their promise, I just can't see them kicking bags in the twos for ages without getting a shot in the seniors?

But on the flipside, I wouldn't have thought we'd be too keen on exposing more than 2 zero-gamers to the top level all at once?

Biggie?

 

[DarkPhoenix]

If the drive is so taxing for a handful of players, Im sure the poor blokes on upward of 300k a year can slum it in a 80 dollar a night motel for a bit

 

[giantroo]

33 Degrees, Humid, Lightning and the odd sprinkle of rain.

This was definitely a harder training session than Monday. When I arrived the boys were running (I think) a 2km time trial. Jyi lead all comers and won by an easy 10m over Stephens and Tucker. Tucker has been a consistent number three in all time trials. Hopefully he can transition that fitness into more game impact. A pleasing not was Stephenson absolutely sprinting the last 250m and gaining about 10 spots. He was the only player to noticeably push themselves that hard. Shows his intent!

Lots of close in body work and moving the ball by hand drills, along with drills working on chain handball.

Forward marking drills with the kicker kicking to specific zones in the forward 50 with the forwards aware of where the ball will be going just by its trajectory inside 50. Better delivery, and better understanding between mids and forwards is something I think we'd all agree has been poor for a long time. It looks like they are working hard to build that understanding.

More running drills pushing them hard inthe heat followed. -GL

 

[My Left Foote]

33 Degrees, Humid, Lightning and the odd sprinkle of rain.

This was definitely a harder training session than Monday. When I arrived the boys were running (I think) a 2km time trial. Jyi lead all comers and won by an easy 10m over Stephens and Tucker. Tucker has been a consistent number three in all time trials. Hopefully he can transition that fitness into more game impact. A pleasing not was Stephenson absolutely sprinting the last 250m and gaining about 10 spots. He was the only player to noticeably push themselves that hard. Shows his intent!

I love and appreciate Glynn's work but FFS how hard is it to spell Jy's name correctly it's 2 letters, Jysus Bloody Christ!

 

[giantroo]