Training 2024 Preseason reports and discussion

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Do not underestimate the effect that the bullying at Richmond had on Mabior.

He was, to put it mildly, humiliated, with hits and slaps to his genitals, and frequent inappropriate 'actions' to his 'rear end'.

There is no way that this behaviour would be tolerated at any workplace in the 2020's yet seemingly, at Richmond, it was.

Overseen and overlooked by D. Hardwick.

This culture of degradation - and to those people chuckling about now, answer me this:

How would you react if you heard that your wife or son or father had been grabbed by their genitals against their will, not once, not twice, but repeatedly, whilst in front of the manager that was supposed to protect them?

Chol was bullied out of Richmond.

It affected him deeply, as a human, as a man and his desire to carry on playing was shaken.

Fresh start at CGS - right up until the drumbeats got louder and louder - and there was the manager who failed him at Richmond as his new boss.

That's why he left.

I know, again from someone who would know, that Mabior was incredibly upset by the assaults, and even more so by the lack of response from those entrusted with a duty of care.

If he feels at home at Hawthorn, it's probably because he isn't continually being sexually assaulted and humiliated on a daily basis.

How would you like it, if colleagues of your wife slapped her genitals, stuck a finger in her anus, and called it banter?

Yup, that's what I thought.

Shameful episode that I thought was left behind in the 1970's

I do not know anything about that, other than it seems possible… That said, Mabior may be being diplomatic or kind when he said this, but these are his words: “ Chol said there is no bad blood between him and Hardwick and he was not forced to move clubs. Rather, with his career stuck in neutral, Chol and his manager, Ash Blair from Pacific Sports Management, who he signed with early last year, made the decision to change gears.

"I respect 'Dimma', he has been a great coach for a long time. I honestly don't know why people make up those stories that we don't get along. We actually do get along pretty well. It just came down to what's best for me long term. To hit the road and move was the best option for me. I'm pretty grateful that I'm here now at the Hawks and excited for the years to come," he said.
 
I can't recall right now a single player in the AFL era that kicked over 36 goals in their first year out of the underage comp? so setting the line at 36 goals was indeed ridiculous. 20-25 goals would be a decent and promising return. 30-35 goals (as Kingy suggested) would be incredible.

Chris Grant kicked 51 goals as a 17 yo on debut in the first year of the AFL era.
 

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Moore and Day sound like will be back in first month.

Unclear if CJ and DGB were really in best 22 (CJ has missed a lot of footy).

Blanck is really only best 22 player out for the long-term. And have an experienced replacement in Frost. And timing meant could add depth in Phillips.

We’re still in pretty good shape. But have a relatively hard start to season.
 

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My only real concern from on on-field point of view is if we start racking up injuries early in the season. Outside of Moore and Day who seem like they'll be back sooner rather than later, it's mainly depth or fringe players that we've lost.

To me it's only real panic stations if we lose another mid, Sicily or Lewis. For Blanck and DGB I'm mainly concerned about their development, both taking a significant hit when they should be vying to cement best 22 status.

Personally I'd rather get injuries in the pre-season when you still have a chance to pivot, change things up and gel together before you have to play for premiership points. Much more disheartening to see them drop in season.
 
Moore and Day sound like will be back in first month.

Unclear if CJ and DGB were really in best 22 (CJ has missed a lot of footy).

Blanck is really only best 22 player out for the long-term. And have an experienced replacement in Frost. And timing meant could add depth in Phillips.

We’re still in pretty good shape. But have a relatively hard start to season.
I would even argue if Blanck is best 22 with Frost, Sicily, Scrimshaw and Weddle back there that is already a tall backline
 
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Why do people say Day will be back sooner rather than later? Hasn't he been in a boot for like 7 weeks now ?

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As awful as it is for DGB to be out injured and miss the first half of the season, based on pre season training, scratch matches and the intra club, he wasn't in contention for our best 23 to start the season.

In terms of defensive depth, he had the likes of Frost, Scrimshaw, Blanck and Serong all ahead of him. Even with Blanck out for the season, Ethan Phillips was ahead of him when thinking about key defensive positions. Simmo had said that DGB was likely going to be a hybrid who would be playing on smalls and talls.
 

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