Autopsy Autopsy vs Collingwood aka the Great Pain Robbery

[CURVE]

Yesterday’s loss could possibly be the most painful loss since the ‘98 GF?

In so many ways, it’s just painful.

No defeat will ever be as painful as the 1994 PF, but yesterday was the first time since then where I'm still seething and struggling to concentrate the following day, and every time I read an article or see a video saying we were robbed it just makes me angrier.

Also, I feel both the 1998 GF and the Adelaide match 2013 were self-inflicted, whereas the 1994 PF and yesterday were impacted or partially impacted by poor umpiring that was heavily lopsided against us.

I was disappointed in 1998 and 2013, I was angry and disappointed in 1994 and now.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

The real story here isn’t about how awesome the pies were to come back and win it’s how a raw young team on the bottom of the ladder exposed the reigning premiers. We should never have won this game based on normal metrics but the Pies we’re found out and the other serious finals contenders saw it and will practice it against them, this will be the Pies last good season for a decade if they keep playing like that. In the meantime once our lads build their endurance and learn to play the system for four quarters we will be looking at the pies in our rear view mirror from next year, bookmark it

They are a great team with a very even spread, some wonderful leaders with Daicos and Moore leading the way. They are very experienced and really, they have been relying on their experience for a couple of years now. Their experience has up until recently been kissed on the proverbial in regards to injuries.

They are now being found out a little.

 

[Roosurgence]

I woke up very angry. I’ve already ran through 3 people and only been on the train for 3 minutes.


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Lucky Daicos wasn’t on the train, if so he probably would have flopped to the ground and you would have been accosted by 4 yellow maggots.

 

[Cyber_punk]

Nope. Adelaide 2013. A better, more experienced North team against a team about our level having already lost 3 close games already that season - including the week before. Yesterday's loss, a shattering as it was, cost us nothing. The 2013 losses cost us a finals spot.

Yes most losses in 2013.

Yesterday, the fadeout, while hard to take, was somewhat expected so I'm not as angry as some. They are the reigning premiers. You see it with every rebuilding team - that gutsy performance that doesn't quite get them over. It's basically the law of the universe we as a young side were never going to sustain that level for 4 quarters.

 

[Samsquanch]

 

[Samsquanch]

Channel 7 quote Chadwiko

 

[Chadwiko]

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Channel 7 quote Chadwiko

lol did they?

 

[Samsquanch]

lol did they?

Egregiously.

 

[DuckYeah]

I’ve had time to reflect on the game yesterday and watched the replay last night and have a few thoughts.

Firstly, I am just so proud of what our boys did yesterday but it was gut-wrenching to fall short at the death and I’m absolutely gutted that we didn’t get the win.

My key takeaways after a bit of time to reflect are:

We have the on-field talent and a coach who can harness that talent to take on any team.

The reigning premiers had to throw absolutely everything at us to scrape home. I doubt any other current side bar Collingwood would have been able to do what they did to get back in the game.

It wasn’t lack of effort or mistakes that ultimately cost us; it was not being as fit/developed as Collingwood – they are a battle-hardened unit with a wealth of experience and some extremely talented players. We have some outstanding talent and our team is starting to gel but we started to tire midway through the third quarter, mistakes crept in and we couldn’t keep up the pressure that put us nine goals up.

We didn’t give up and came back to hit the front after Collingwood gained the lead late in the game. I can’t think of any time in the last five years where we wouldn’t have dropped our heads and just capitulated.

The first half was the best football we have played in more than ten years. That’s what we’ve got to look forward to in coming years and I’m so pumped about that prospect.

The umpiring was deplorable and definitely influenced the result.

This loss should burn in the hearts of every player out there yesterday, it should be a valuable lesson and each and every player should be able to take something away from the game to work on to get that little bit better. I’ve got no doubt that Clarko will be making it a learning experience and be harnessing the agony of the loss.

I can’t wait to see what the future brings for this crop of players and coaches.

Lastly - George Wardlaw will be the best player in the competition.

Hate to say it but when you are rebuilding, thats a loss ya have to have. The knowledge from failure is invaluable.. its not a 100 point thumping, it could have been that way for us. But absolutely, this week and last could be considered as the ultimate turning point for our club. The Apex.

 

[DuckYeah]

Clarko MUST have been tired, Will didn't look tired at all.

The sports science knobs would have given metrics. I dont agree, I love phillips as every campaigner knows around here. Was it the reason we lost? Thats hypothetical. I wasn’t in the box. Would running that quarter with will on the ground have pinged a hammy or done a soft tissue? Then we are down to 3 on the bench trying to pinch the win? Dont know. All I know is Willba did a ****ing awesome job and just proves that he can play footy with the best at his age level and all you clowns including that junk ****wit looked like absolute nonces

 

[jaspers_barber]

I find it incredible that the AFL does not ensure the umpires are full time. No wonder they suck each week with terrible decisions.

Nah funding for a Round Zero is a much better idea

 

[DuckYeah]

Hats off to this pies fan being able to see the bleeding obvious.

He didn’t mention Sideflogs or Qgaynors throw, so he’s just another toothless filthy flog

 

[DuckYeah]

I wouldn’t mind a strong, game day tactician assistant to be brought across to really challenge Clarko and provide a different perspective. I love the teaching approach but it is sometimes too set and forget in the Scott mould when things aren’t going well for us on the heat of the moment.

Agreed. He needs someone to challenge him in the box. He might need to sacrifice a few bob to get someone half decent in tho

 

[Hazey1977]

So many missed calls, quanor pushing one north player into another during a marking contest in the last doesn’t get mentioned. It was just as blatant as the non 50.

It looked bad, but i've been trying to work out what free kick could've been paid?

Like it wasn't direct tunneling, maybe a push out as the ball wasn't within 5m?

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[DuckYeah]

Now look Bucks. I’ll take the advice from a coach who has won flags over a coach who hasn’t. Its not what he says in the media, its what he says in open forum with the players. Clarkson is on repeat throughout pressers, including his days at the Hawfs, he often praised us when we were given a hiding. Its his method, I wont question it. He knows his shit..

bucks, if you are prepared to take on a green footy team, lets be honest here. Talking them individuals or the team up in the media may not be the best decision..

 

[Caracas]

So they pay the free kicks to get collingwood back in front and then put the whistle away because its close?

Look, I get I’m as browned off as you. However, there’s really no mileage in all this - apart from the fact that it is getting a fair degree of scrutiny. It’s a shame it’s taking away from such a great performance by our team. BigFooty is really Robbo on steroids.

 

[DuckYeah]

Look, I get I’m as browned off as you. However, there’s really no mileage in all this - apart from the fact that it is getting a fair degree of scrutiny. It’s a shame it’s taking away from such a great performance by our team. BigFooty is really Robbo on steroids.

Woah, it doesn’t gloss over anything. Infact it reinforces the effort that the young boys were robbed

 

[Only Forwards]

Hate to say it but when you are rebuilding, thats a loss ya have to have. The knowledge from failure is invaluable.. its not a 100 point thumping, it could have been that way for us. But absolutely, this week and last could be considered as the ultimate turning point for our club. The Apex.

I hated the loss but broadly agree.

This loss is not like our other losses where the game was out of reach within 20 minutes. in fact we play like that against most sides and we win the game.

I know for a fact that there are players at our club that are straight up sick of losing. Not in the JHF run away from it kind of way, more in the do more to be better kind of way. So a loss like that is gonna burn, a lot. A loss like that, where a young side kicks out only to be reeled in by a more seasoned side is pretty typical way for a young side to lose.

If we can do what we did for 2 more minutes a quarter its going to come on and it is going to come on quick.

The mission from this point to the final siren in the hawks game is to move ourselves out of 18th spot. Finish as high as we possibly can. Look to bring the pressure we have been to every game.

 

[Caracas]

Woah, it doesn’t gloss over anything. Infact it reinforces the effort that the young boys were robbed

Fair enough.

 

[Event Horizon]

Yep. Shit because they deserved the win yesterday, but in context we move on and makes little difference to the pathway we are on. Much better signs the last couple of weeks. If we keep this up we can potentially put a real case towards some good players from other clubs to get on board now while they can.

It may make little difference to the pathway (although you never know how it affects the players, we'll see some evidence on Sat night) but our kids and ourselves also need some emotional nourishment. It felt awful to me yesterday, to the point I nearly felt like I was out of oxygen.

 

[Possession]

Fade-outs have moved from the second quarter to the third this year, and then to the fourth in these past two weeks. When we move them to the fifth quarter, watch out.

 

[Twinkletoes]

The pitch invader Conor Clarke is the brother of Western Bulldogs small forward Charlie Clarke, who debuted this season.

 

[Roogal]

I am sure that a lot of lessons were learnt by the players yesterday having ceded such a big lead. We went into yesterday's game with absolutely nothing to lose and we gave one of the strongest teams in the AFL a massive fright and almost embarrassed them. I hold to my belief that there is little that separates top and bottom teams except confidence and self belief. Our players yesterday perhaps finally saw that they can take it up to the big teams. It's going to be a far more interesting second half of the season for us for sure.

 

[giantroo]

 

[KiwiRoo]

Agreed. He needs someone to challenge him in the box. He might need to sacrifice a few bob to get someone half decent in tho

maybe Clarko wants the team to figure a few things out themselves on the field

They would have learned a heap from that game